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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 25 October 2011 02:11
Is there some other requirement? I've gotten wins, each side, in the 41 original scenarios.. plenty of cadets...

What am I missing?

[Updated on: Tue, 25 October 2011 02:12]

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 25 October 2011 09:47
--JP écrit le Tue, 25 October 2011 02:11

Is there some other requirement? I've gotten wins, each side, in the 41 original scenarios.. plenty of cadets...

What am I missing?


Already ?

But you got promoted only 3 days before me !!

IIRC, someone mentionned a "minimum" number of wins as a lt Colonel.

And I think that besides Warsaw/Rhzev/Spring/Knightsbridge, that were added later, you also have to win Tunis, Montelimar, Toulon & Gallabat.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 25 October 2011 20:54
I'm in the midst of a move/transfer, so my time is feast or famine. I had 133 games in 14 days.

I've got wins on both sides in Tunis, Montelimar, Toulon and Galabat.
Haven't done Warsw/Rzhev/Spring/Knightsbridge.

Is there a minimum win/games played requirement?

I am heading into 'famine mode' and want to have a reward before I deal with real life again!
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 25 October 2011 21:19
I had 250 wins total.
I also believe there is a minimum total number and there is also a possible minimum total number in each of all 8 categories. Maybe something like 15 won games in each category

AXIS
Western
Pacific
Eastern
Mediterranean

ALLIES
Western
Pacific
Eastern
Mediterranean

[Updated on: Tue, 25 October 2011 21:22]

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Wed, 26 October 2011 09:31
stevens wrote on Tue, 25 October 2011 22:19

I had 250 wins total.
I also believe there is a minimum total number and there is also a possible minimum total number in each of all 8 categories. Maybe something like 15 won games in each category

AXIS
Western
Pacific
Eastern
Mediterranean

ALLIES
Western
Pacific
Eastern
Mediterranean


I've been trying to figure out whats the additional requirement. I went through some of colonel promotions out of which most were promoted after battle against a cadet. However, one record stuck out. AIwan was promoted after a loss to a higher ranked opponent at Ponyri (177 wins out of 247 battles). After some looks into excel data I can say at least that the win requirement is not higher than 12. Since he was promoted after a loss there must be some value to losses as well. Based on the data, the criteria could be either 17 battles each side/front or more complicated 15 without counting Warsaw and Rzhev. More theories will follow if none of these turn out to be right Wink

Edit: and of course I disprove myself quickly: My own numbers are already over the above values... One more round number popped up from AIwan's battle records. Number of battles + 2 x number of wins is exactly 600. (or 3 times wins + losses)

Cheers,

DrLuikku

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Wed, 26 October 2011 14:24
I don't think the # of games+ 2x #of wins works.

330 games + (2x247) doesn't meet the criteria...
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Wed, 26 October 2011 16:09
--JP wrote on Wed, 26 October 2011 15:24

I don't think the # of games+ 2x #of wins works.

330 games + (2x247) doesn't meet the criteria...


You're right, I found an earlier case of promotion with a loss. The sum was around 560. So back to the drawing board. I tried to calculate number of units destroyed, but that doesn't correlate either.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Wed, 26 October 2011 17:31
I f someone promotes after a loss, also look at the game before that one.

Since some of the requirements (ribbons) are awarded on the end of a battle the promotion sometimes "waits" a game.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 27 October 2011 00:13
Col Stevens - I will have to look into the 250 win criteria...

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 27 October 2011 02:13
sigh... 252 is not the answer..

Maybe minimum number of games?
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 27 October 2011 03:44
JP, it appears that the criterion involves winning each side of all those scenarios and playing 25 cadets after being promoted to Lieutenant Colonel. It appears that you've only played about 120 games as an LtC. This could be the difficulty.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 27 October 2011 05:30
Sam,

Thanks for the input, but I've won all 41 scenarios, from each side, since LTC. With all the new folks out there, I've met the 'cadet requirement', too.

Must be a minimum # games played, games won, or minimum per front requirement (beyond the win each battle each side).

[Updated on: Thu, 27 October 2011 05:31]

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 27 October 2011 06:08
I've lost track, but I think somebody didn't get it until his 15th win on one side of some front.

If you scan through this thread, you can find out the smallest number of LtC games it's taken anybody.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 27 October 2011 06:49
I'm really sure it's the min number of games as Lt Col needed for JP: 250. We believe that can include the expert mode games and the regular, since a few people won with fewer regular games and had played expert.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 27 October 2011 07:20
toddcalu wrote on Thu, 27 October 2011 08:49

I'm really sure it's the min number of games as Lt Col needed for JP: 250. We believe that can include the expert mode games and the regular, since a few people won with fewer regular games and had played expert.


I hate to break this to you, but the Expert games and Solo games do not count toward promotion or achievements. DoW has made this very clear since the very start of Closed Beta.

So unless there is a bug in the system (which I don't think there is) the Expert Games don't count... Smile
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 28 October 2011 14:22
Finally made it to Colonel. 249 regular multiplayer matches and 3 expert games after LTC promotion. And the promotion was after a humiliating series of bad losses. So it has to be just number of games. Every other theory I could come up with turned out to be wrong. As I mentioned in an earlier post I met the requirements of winning all scenarios on both sides as a LTC and fought way over 50 cadets out of which only one or two were promoted after the match.

Cheers,
DrLuikku.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 28 October 2011 14:42
DrLuikko, which game caused your promotion? For some reason, the Career page doesn't seem to be showing it at the moment.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 28 October 2011 14:51
I've noticed that before. The promotion ribbons are added to the webpage with some delay. The promotion was after 3-6 loss to doublemaxeur at Montelimar. 10 losses in 12 last games in total Wink.

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DrLuikku.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 29 October 2011 05:52
DrLuikku wrote on Sat, 29 October 2011 01:22

Finally made it to Colonel. 249 regular multiplayer matches and 3 expert games after LTC promotion. And the promotion was after a humiliating series of bad losses. So it has to be just number of games. Every other theory I could come up with turned out to be wrong. As I mentioned in an earlier post I met the requirements of winning all scenarios on both sides as a LTC and fought way over 50 cadets out of which only one or two were promoted after the match.

Cheers,
DrLuikku.


Welcome Colonello #35 Colonello DrLuikku to the Colonels Club.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 29 October 2011 18:01
Congratulations to all the new Colonels. Interesting that none of DrLuikku's recent losses were cadets. His case does support the theory that a certain number of games are required. 249 is odd but it could be that the system counts the game in which you were promoted; in other words, the game in which you are promoted to Lt. Col. might count as game 1 of your Lt. Col. career.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 29 October 2011 23:30
DrLuikku wrote on Fri, 28 October 2011 08:51

I've noticed that before. The promotion ribbons are added to the webpage with some delay. The promotion was after 3-6 loss to doublemaxeur at Montelimar. 10 losses in 12 last games in total Wink.

Cheers,
DrLuikku.

Well, for what it's worth, that was your second game in a 2-game match. Your first game in the match was your 25th Mediterranean game played as Axis since your promotion to LtC. I have no idea whether 25 plays on each side is required, in addition to 15 wins.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 30 October 2011 18:04
sam1812 wrote on Sun, 30 October 2011 00:30


Well, for what it's worth, that was your second game in a 2-game match. Your first game in the match was your 25th Mediterranean game played as Axis since your promotion to LtC. I have no idea whether 25 plays on each side is required, in addition to 15 wins.


Hi, I think that 25th match as axis doesn't matter. I checked the records and I only had 22 matches as axis on the eastern front. Also as I mentioned in an earlier post people have been promoted with as low as 12 wins on a front/side. I don't think there is any other win requirement than the win all scenarios as both sides.

Happy Colonello,
DrLuikku.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 30 October 2011 19:07
Gut'n Tag Kameraden!

I have just completed my tour to became promoted to "oberst".

This was quite long trip, but finally I have made it.Now, I'm happy to share the details of my career records and statistics with you.

1.) I won all of the scenarios on each side, it means 45 maps, all "additional" ones included
2.) Total number of battles as "oberstleutnant": 250 (157 wins)
3.) Number of wins sorted by theaters of operations:
western allied: 21; axis: 19
mediterran allied: 9; axis: 16
eastern allied: 15; axis: 13
pacific allied: 11; axis: 9
other allied: 28; axis: 16 (these are the "additional" maps: Warsaw, Rzhev, Knightsbridge, Operation Spring, Gallabat, Tunisia, Montélimar)
4.) Total number of battles again cadets: 47 (36 wins)
5.) Number of cadets promoted after beating me: 3


I hope these helps your analysis of promotion requirements.

From now on, I'm ready to get new challenges and I'm waiting to face the requirements for the first star;)

Regards,
PP
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 30 October 2011 20:00
Welcome Obest #36 Oberst ppodahu.
Congratulations Herr Oberst.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 04 November 2011 01:25
Welcome Colonel #37 Colonel LtRock.

Congratulation and welcome to the Colonels club.

Tell us about yourself and your career.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 06 November 2011 21:40
Welcome Colonel #38 Colonel Kain51.

Congratulation and welcome to the Colonels club.

Tell us about yourself and your career.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 10 November 2011 09:10
Congratulations to Colonel #39 Colonel Tabou. Welcome to the Colonel's Club.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 10 November 2011 13:11
So many new faces in here -- congratulations and welcome, all! And yet. strangely, there's still so much room.

In fact, it looks infinitely large in here -- but I realize there's probably only room for 2^64 players. Smile

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 10 November 2011 21:51
By the time we get to 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 Colonels we will have extended the clubrooms.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 10 November 2011 22:08
Phread wrote on Thu, 10 November 2011 21:51

By the time we get to 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 Colonels we will have extended the clubrooms.


I hope that by then, some of the colonels have moved up to general rank.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 10 November 2011 22:30
Quote:

I hope that by then, some of the colonels have moved up to general rank.

We're working on it.

Laughing

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 11 November 2011 04:35
Congratulations to Colonel #40 Colonel black sheep.

Welcome to the fellowship of Colonels. Your club membership has been validated.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 11 November 2011 14:19
Thank you Phread!
Let's have a drink on me.

#40 sounds good to me.

Keep on (fighting) playing,mates.

See you on a battlefield !
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 13 November 2011 14:24
Phread wrote on Thu, 10 November 2011 03:10

Congratulations to Colonel #39 Colonel Tabou. Welcome to the Colonel's Club.


Thanks ! At least I cracked the the top40. For those who want stats, I kept a few things.
Games Played: 250
Cadets Played: 35
Cadets Promoted: 4

If in need of other stats, let me know.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 13 November 2011 15:05
Welcome colonel black sheep,

Enjoy the comfortable chairs.

Helcat
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 13 November 2011 17:38
Tabou wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 14:24

Cadets Played: 35

Is that 35 games against cadets or did you play against 35 different cadets?
Sir! Very Happy
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 14 November 2011 16:59
Jeronimon wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 11:38

Tabou wrote on Sun, 13 November 2011 14:24

Cadets Played: 35

Is that 35 games against cadets or did you play against 35 different cadets?
Sir! Very Happy


Good question. I would think that 70% of them are back-2-back games with Cadets.

[Updated on: Tue, 15 November 2011 23:00]

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 15 November 2011 20:12
Welcome to Colonel #41 Colonel HamonSerrano.

Congratulations on your promotion.

As the newest and therefore most junior Colonel the drinks at the Colonel's Club are on you.

Would or could you share some of the lessons you learnt on the way to your promotion?
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 18 November 2011 10:47
--JP écrit

(...) I've won all 41 scenarios, from each side, since LTC.
With all the new folks out there, I've met the 'cadet requirement', too.


Where are you on your way to promotion ?

I am approaching 150 games since Lt Colonel, I met 25 cadets (more than 10 got promoted since), I won all western maps both sides, and all mediterranean maps both sides (at the exception of Knightsbridge - allies), and a few wins in the east also (I won Klin and Moscow both sides !).

On the french speaking section, someone mentionned that Hamonserrano did NOT win ALL maps with both sides since promoted.

We knew about Knightsbridge or Spring, we guessed about Rhzev and Warsaw.

However (I verified it), he did not win VASSIEUX and WAKE ISLAND (he didn't even play those maps).

Maybe the condition is something like wins on 40 different maps (any map) with both sides, instead of wins on EVERY "official" map (when new maps will be added, in a few years from now, who will remember what were the "official" maps ; so it can not be a condition, I guess !) !?
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 18 November 2011 12:52
BTW,

Nygaard, you will soon (1-2 months) be less lonely as there are so few french speaking player (only Quit2, black sheep and you, I believe) in the Colonels'club !!

About 35 of the 120 Lt Colonel are french speaking players, and 4-5 majors sould be promoted in the next few weeks as Lt colonels also !!

I know (almost) for sure that we are several to work on it (hdescavernes, garion44, merlinade, sbchurchill, khorbier, palomides, leutnant michel, ....).

So, just be patient and we're gonna have "frogeaters" (or so ; there are also players from Belgium, Switzerland or Québec...) in the club !

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