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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 23 October 2011 15:09
I got my promotion to Colonel when I lost to a cadet in Operation Spring! I think this is a part of "the capacity to train new Cadets into Combat is what makes a true leader!"

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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Tue, 25 October 2011 21:55
STOP PRESS.

Made Lt Col directly after getting to 10 victories as Axis and Allies after being a Major across all theatres.

296 games
150 victories


207/109 since being a Major

85/42 against other Majors as a Major

If people want more break down because they have hyptheses to test, they need only ask


Keep me a pink gin ready in the Colonels Lounge please
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Mon, 07 November 2011 09:29
On the promotions hunt toward Lt.Col. ! Razz

Read all the above, but the mission still aint cristal clear to me Confused

Got so far as 10 victories each side each theater Very Happy

Played adversaries all trew the ranks Cool

Are those victories counted from major on or from the start ?
(In this case i need to get some extra all over)

Do you need those 150 victories some talk about ? (if so i m a long way from home)

Any suggestions gentlemen ? Rolling Eyes



p.s. Any Steamer close to promotion for Lt.Col. ?

[Updated on: Mon, 07 November 2011 10:04]

      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Mon, 07 November 2011 10:03
You have fought 222 battles so far.

Could it be that you need to fight some more battles?

Have fun too.
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Mon, 07 November 2011 10:04
Flemish_Havy écrit le Mon, 07 November 2011 09:29

On the promotions hunt toward Lt.Col. ! Razz

Read all the above, but the mission still aint cristal clear to me Confused

Got so far as 10 victories each side each theater Very Happy

Played adversaries all trew the ranks Cool


- 10 victories each side, each theater AFTER being promoted major.

- play mostly majors and above, to be sure
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Mon, 07 November 2011 10:04
Phread wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 10:03

You have fought 222 battles so far.

Could it be that you need to fight some more battles?

Have fun too.



There is always the need to fight some more Razz
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Mon, 07 November 2011 15:50
Make sure you beat at least 25 Majors (not Majors and above but Majors) AFTER making Major yourself. And beat at least 1 Major in each theatre, each side.
That seems to be a crucial requirement to make Lt. Col.
Hope that helps.
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Mon, 07 November 2011 18:23
Tim-Sparks wrote on Mon, 07 November 2011 15:50

Make sure you beat at least 25 Majors (not Majors and above but Majors) AFTER making Major yourself. And beat at least 1 Major in each theatre, each side.
That seems to be a crucial requirement to make Lt. Col.
Hope that helps.


Thx alot sir, we ll dig on Razz
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Tue, 08 November 2011 12:08
Ok new heads up after close investigations and recalculations Razz

All Wins after becoming Major:

east

allies 9 Embarassed
axis 12

against majors 7

med

allies 10 but i see now only on 4 maps Confused
axis 11

against majors 5

pac

allies 10
axis 10

against majors 4 Rolling Eyes

west

allies 15
axis 19

against majors 4 Rolling Eyes

TOTAL

WINS 137

96 after becoming major !
Rolling Eyes
20 against majors Rolling Eyes

GAMES Played 247 Rolling Eyes

I gess i got lots off FUN GAMING to do before i urn my silver oak leaf Cool

p.s. Keeping you posted, and many thx for all the above info !
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Tue, 08 November 2011 15:32
There you are !!

Welcome to the Lt colonels' club.

It's cosy, but one says that seats in the colonels' club are even softer.
I can not tell you right now... but I am eager to know !
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Tue, 08 November 2011 15:49
Flemish_Havy écrit le Tue, 08 November 2011 12:08

I gess i got lots off FUN GAMING to do before i urn my silver oak leaf


No you didn't Very Happy well done
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Tue, 08 November 2011 16:58
I MADE IT : Lt COL Very Happy Surprised Cool

It came unexpected ! Won 2 extra battles against majors.
Played on.
Won the final battle for promotion at RED FACTORIES WITH ALLIES This gave me my 10th victory as allies in east

This is my end verdict toward promotion to Lt.Col.

ALL THEATERS BOTH SIDES Cool (axis and allies) 10 WINS Cool ON 5 DIFFRENT MAPS Cool
(Missed out 1 map on Med Theater, but substracted some that was mentioned as not counting, so i gess they count.)

100 WINS after becoming Major Cool

(i got exactly that, discounting some maps mentioned as not counting)

5 wins on EVERY THEATER against a MAJOR (or higher) ! Rolling Eyes but i get back to this below, since i found something bether even

Missed out 1 here for the West Theater, but i had a win on a Lt.Col, so i gess that counts also. Rolling Eyes

If i ad 5 wins on Col. and 6 on Lt.Col., that makes41 victories since gamestart !? Rolling Eyes
(Should we need at least 40.)
if i count wins on col. as tripples and Lt.Col. as doubles, i get 50 wins against a major (higher counts as 2 wins) from major on ! Cool
If i take Col. wins not as tripples, but ad captains (thats 6) as half points, i also get that 50 wins !

That is at least 5 wins against every class from major down since major !? could be the healthy mix off opponents minimums toward all classes ?! Cool

If i ad Col. Lt.Col. wins i have 2 theaters with 10 wins Cool and 2 with 5 wins against a major (or higher) since becoming major Cool


NEED A TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 250 Rolling Eyes

I had 252 on my counter ! but i see some got ther quicker Surprised Rolling Eyes

From that 250 i had slightly more then 150 WINS ! Cool

Maybe 20 medals ! i got 22 without the latest new ones ! Rolling Eyes
OR is it Omaha and Arnhem medals ! Cool


Surprised IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE ABOVE YOU GET 10 POINTS OFF INTREST !
IS THAT THE KEY ?
Rolling Eyes Razz


with regards wishing every major GL on getting there !


p.s. Thx for all the help, all people in this post above here and all players help ingame, especialy the higher ranked players, who obviously have good advice and expertise to share !

FOR ALL the most important thing, keep up the FUN GAMING !

[Updated on: Tue, 08 November 2011 19:38]

      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sat, 12 November 2011 11:06
Ok I have won every scenario on both sides. After being promoted to Lt. Col. I went back and won all “original” scenarios on both sides. I have played against around 30 Cadets, and every other rank several times and have played in 784 games at this point. There are some cadets that I have even mucked cards to give them a chance to win, have given them advice on how to play and how they can beat me. What is next? I have spent $68.00 on the online game and have put in a lot hours playing. I have enjoyed the challenge of being promoted so far. I just do not want the challenge to turh to a lesson in futility, with the end result being frustration.
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sat, 12 November 2011 14:18
Mr Bluze, I went through your career and apparently you played a total of 171 matches after your promotion to Lt. Colonel. It has been said in the corresponding thread (http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?th=22532&start=360), although not confirmed, that one of the conditions to move up rank from Lt. Colonel would be a total of at least 250 matches since your last promotion. If this is correct, you are 79 games short.
Just don't give up, keep trying and think of those who achieved their promotions without any clues from their peers
Smile
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sat, 12 November 2011 19:51
Mr Bluze, it seems you are well on your way to joining us in the Colonel's club. Patience is important, but most importantly keep playing and keep having fun.

I am (and others are) also waiting on DoW. I have played over 650 games as Colonel and there is - to date - not even a hint on what is required for promotion to Brigadier. I hope some of these games will help towards my next promotion.

[Updated on: Sat, 12 November 2011 19:52]

      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sat, 12 November 2011 20:44
Thanks for the input, i bow to you guys  http://home.arcor.de/hahussong/hahussong/Hail.gif
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Tue, 06 December 2011 00:39
Bump
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Tue, 13 December 2011 06:51
Hi Jerinomon (Hope I have spelt your name correctly)

Would you mind updating the OP about L Colonel promotions with the extra info gathered from players.

Thanks

P.S. Six wins away from Mayor
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Wed, 14 December 2011 02:34
Just for the Major promotion rank:

I won against all ranks = to major after captain
Played all ranks after captain
Won 20 games after captain
22 awards

[Updated on: Wed, 14 December 2011 02:35]

      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Thu, 15 December 2011 18:01
Panzer9000 wrote on Tue, 13 December 2011 06:51

Hi Jerinomon (Hope I have spelt your name correctly)

Would you mind updating the OP about L Colonel promotions with the extra info gathered from players.

Thanks

P.S. Six wins away from Mayor

Oh oh, you misspelled, that's ging to cost you a drink in THE officers mess. Smile

I would gladly add any information, but do not know whichinfo you want added. I myself only see speculations but no hard evidence for specific requirements.

But as I too am just a human being I might have overlooked something. Rolling Eyes
Point it out to me and I will remedy the situation.

Glad to be of service. Smile
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Thu, 15 December 2011 18:33
One day I am going to sit down and work out how long, in theorey, it should take to take to get each promotion if optimised.

      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Fri, 16 December 2011 08:56
Jeronimon

Mainly about the maps that don't count for Lt Colonel

Thanks
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Fri, 16 December 2011 14:20
Panzer9000 wrote on Fri, 16 December 2011 08:56

Jeronimon

Mainly about the maps that don't count for Lt Colonel

Thanks

Indeed a very good suggestion, I have updated the first post.

Thank you for pointing this out.

You still owe me that drink though. Very Happy
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 18 December 2011 23:53
Maybe if you were a Colonel.... Very Happy
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Mon, 19 December 2011 11:41
Panzer9000 wrote on Sun, 18 December 2011 23:53

Maybe if you were a Colonel.... Very Happy

Working on it. Smile

And I am telling you: if you think going for Lt Col is fun, wait till you are on the track to Col, that's even more fun. Cool
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Wed, 21 December 2011 02:10
Yeah good luck on your quest and I will see you there someday. Lt Colonel is fun though. I just got to get some more ingots soon.
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sat, 31 December 2011 14:36
Well Panzer9000 it seems to get that drink I would have to leave the cosy warm and welcoming Colonels Club, so tell me when it's ready. Very Happy

On the promotion front:
For Colonel I updated the first post with my own experience: you need to play 25 different cadets.

Furthermore: Personally I think there is also some kind of rank counter involved (obviously for Colonel). DOW wants us to play as much as possible and to help newer players. So If you met the requirements mentioned above but are still not promoted, try playing against different ranks. (And be sure to tell us here.)
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sat, 31 December 2011 16:10
Do the maps that do not count for Lt Col count for Col?

Rzhev
Warsaw
Gallabat
Tunsia
Toulon
Montelimar
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sat, 31 December 2011 22:40
van Voort wrote on Sat, 31 December 2011 16:10

Do the maps that do not count for Lt Col count for Col?

Rzhev
Warsaw
Gallabat
Tunsia
Toulon
Montelimar


First to be complete (you missed two Smile ) THE complete list of what not counts for Lt Col:
Western: Operation Spring
Eastern: Warsaw and Rhez
Mediterranian: Gallabat&Metemma, Montélimar, Toulon, Tunisia and Knightsbridge

Then your question: I believe you have to win all 45 scenario's both sides to become a Colonel. But you can test it by playing more then 225 games and 25 different cadets and winning al the otter scenario's from both sides. If you get promoted we'll know. If not you can always play the missing ones afterwards.

Happy hunting!
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 01 January 2012 04:29
Hmm, well I was planning:

Win all scenarios each way

Then play 25 cadets

Then see how many games I needed (I had heard 250)


If we are reasonably certain that the 25 cadets and 225 games are accurate then I will do as you suggest and get to those figures whilst ignoring those scenarios and we can see what happens.

In any case I have some wriggle room, currently at 160 games, 11 different cadets and need only 5 specific sides, that should be wrappped up in the next 40 games inshallah
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 01 January 2012 08:37
To be safe you could go for 250, but there are Colonels who did it in under 250 (so the rumor goes, I have not yet investigated). To be on the safe side you might go for 250 before playing/winning the other scenarios.

The next Lt Col we can then ask order Wink to do the scenarios and cadets first and then investigate as to how many games it would be. (If (s)he has not passed that mark already going for the other two requirements.)
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Thu, 05 January 2012 23:19
I was recently promoted to Lt Colonel and was able to clear up a few things. I intentionally avoided playing Sugar Loaf and Half Moon (Pacific) and also Into the Cauldron (Mediterranean) so I'm able to disprove the assertion that "You need to have played (not won) all scenarios from all sides".

Rest of post redacted!

I came up with 3 rules that worked for me but after examining other peoples records I found that none of the rules applied. Still researching...

[Updated on: Thu, 19 January 2012 22:44]

      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Fri, 06 January 2012 07:55
Lt Col Fogminster, I salute you. Smile

I applaud your very detailed and thought out report.

However: I think you missed something. reviewing your service record I can only find one allied win on Gallabat and Mettema not two. So the conclusions you draw after that (adding wins before promotion to Major and subtracting the wins against cadets) I feel are not supported by the evidence.

We are pretty sure (read: set in stone) that wins previous to your Major promotion don't count. With the above mentioned oversight, your dilemma is solved I think.

As for the most pressing question on the Colonel promotion:
Are you having fun? Very Happy


You need to have played 25 different cadets
You need to have won all scenarios form both sides (some debate here Lt Col Van Voort is investigating, see post two above yours)

Speculations that are still out there:
You need to win a specified amount of battles (250 has been suggested but Quit2 made it with 237 games since being promoted Lt. Col.)
Maybe you need wins against all ranks available.
Some cadets need to promote against you (unlikely but prove it wrong and tell us)
You need a specific number of battles against cadets (unlikely but prove it wrong and tell us)

So take your pick and investigate, I have no doubt you will report in the same detailed fashion you have done so now. You can do that either here or in the Colonel thread.

Happy promotion hunting!

Hope to meet you on the way and delay you just a little. Very Happy
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Fri, 06 January 2012 08:09
To get to Colonel you need to win most battles from both sides, and other conditions.
A number of the latest scenarios aren't needed for promotion - as they were released or made available after the promotion to Colonel was made available.
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Fri, 06 January 2012 15:06
Quit2 (237 wins ? ; I did not check) and --JP (249 wins, I checked) are two notable exceptions.

All other colonels, if not mistaken, reached the rank after hitting their 250th battle AFTER being promoted to Lt Colonel.

Hamon Serrano DID NOT play on ALL "official" maps (i.e. did not win on all maps also).

Indeed, if some maps are not needed, as far as I am concerned, I played and won every map available at that moment with both sides, to feel that my promotion was earned (including Toulon, Gallabat, Montélimar, Tunisia, Rhzev, Warsaw, Knightsbridge & Spring).

Congrats, & good luck for the next rank...
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sat, 07 January 2012 07:29
Fogminsters promotion indeed raises some questions again about the promotion to Lt Col.

I hav to confess I did not spot another win at Gallabat and Metemma, but Fogminster pointed out to me that he also had a win at Toulon. His list of wins in the mediterenean:

Hellfire Pass
Gallabat & Metemma
Dug in at Sidi Omar
Flanking Maneuver at Bir Hakeim
1st Armoured to the rescue
Panzers versus Grants
Sidi Rezegh Airfield
Hellfire Pass
Toulon
Escape via the Coastal Road
Hellfire Pass

So at the time he promoted he had nine wins in the mediterenean. (His promotion tot Major occurred at Juno Beach and the one to Lt Col at Suomussalmi, so the mediterenean 10th win is not there also.)

It is a mystery to me. I Do not think any wins before the promotion to Major count but I could be wrong of course. Anyone have an insight in this?

We will continue to investigate. Mad
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Thu, 19 January 2012 19:15
Well, 206 battles and 25 cadets is not enough


I have avoided the scenarios that do not count for Maj
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Thu, 19 January 2012 23:07
van Voort wrote on Thu, 19 January 2012 19:15

Well, 206 battles and 25 cadets is not enough


I have avoided the scenarios that do not count for Maj

Can you do the following test:
Win more scenarios up to like 240. Then only play and win expert scenarios.
Some of us got promoted before reaching 250, and the difference could be about the number of wins those players had on expert. Se if you get promoted after reaching 250 total.
You might have to play one more non-expert game afterwards, since it seems you can only get promoted at the end of a non-expert scenario.
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Fri, 20 January 2012 17:55
Major Supers here, just giving you all my input into the race for Lt.Col.
I have now recorded at least 10 wins as axis and allies on all fronts , but I am now checking my figures and it would appear that I haven't got the wins on 5 different maps. I still need allied win in the eastern theatre and 2 maps in the Med. Will work on these over the weekend (wife allowing) and report back!!!!

Razz
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Fri, 20 January 2012 18:00
I Know I might be sounding stupid , but how do I get the info regarding victories since becoming a Major?
Cool Cool Cool
      
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