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Henry Pelham wrote on Sat, 28 January 2012 22:31

Perhaps these promotions are not automatic, but awarded by some invisible hand?

I can assure you, the promotions are automatic! The DoW crew is too busy with projects and updates to sit around watching players in Memoir '44 Online and then give them promotions!

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As the subject has become beer, I feel that a representative of my country should tip in.

If the subject has become beer, then I very much appreciate this contribution as I like Belgian beers myself.

However in my humble opinion the subjects are:

1. How does one get to the General rank.
Within that discussion a number of theories were investigated amongst others: The number of games played, number of games won, number of expert games played, number of expert games won. Number of expert maps made, ranks of the players played against, Adam Smith's Invisible Hand, the amount of facial hair, the catchyness of the nickname, etc.

This discussion offered insights in, and opening into subjects of a different nature.

2. A moral discussion: Does the community allow players to have a theory about how to become a General and either share or not share that theory.

3. The question whether one is welcome in this bar not being a General; personally I think everyone is welcome.

4. Some of the house rules of the bar. Should it be Heineken that is on the house if 4 stars are rolled, and if not Heineken, then should Dow change the symbol on the dice? And there is even a discussion that if a side of a die has to correlate with a symbol of a beer brand, not being Heineken, which beer brand that then should be.

Within this context, there is a suggestion to change that side of the die to an outline-of-a-pull-off-lid-of-a-beer-bottle-cork; a Danish contribution, a CHTTY Blonde; a French contribution. The origin of Ch'ti might be related to World War I, where it is supposed to be originated in the trenches. Given that historical reference it might be slightly out of context with Memoir'44. Furthermore I have my doubts whether it will be appreciated in all countries using the die. In my humble opinion, if a change of dice side is required, this proposal should be thoroughly playtested, as there are even now on memoir a lot of people complaining about the dice.

...to the shield of the St Sixtus Abby, which is depicted on Westvleteren beer;



, a Belgian contribution.

I would like to share some thoughts on the latter as the top half of the symbol in my opinion shows strong resemblances with a Russian engineer badge and the bottom half of the symbol could give the user of the die the impression of a palmtree, both could lead the user of the die to the conclusion that this side of the die can only be used to order a Russian engineer in either a palmforest or into a jungle. In the short period I play this game I have not yet come across such a scenario. Given this fact I therefore think that this side of the die, in the stated form, will be much less used than the other sides of the die and this might have statistical consequenses for the game.

Or to the label of Stella Artois.



Another Belgian contribution.
With the argument that the Latin Stella Artois means small or narrow star; étoile étroites in French.

I would like to argue against this proposal that as the other sides of the dice clearly depict symbols, thus stating to the user of the die that the die is used to depict a representation of reality and not reality itself. The Stella Artois contribution, in my humble opinion, is a direct reference to reality. This difference in symbolic nature of the sides of the die might confuse the user of the die, making him run to the refrigerator every time this side of the die is rolled, instead of executing the action that is supposed to be correlated with the side of the die in that specific situation.
In addition to that; in a normal game, the probability of this side of the die turning upwards is; on the Dow server as well, as has been clearly shown by the testing of HamonSerrano on the Red Barricades Factory scenario, 16,67%. Given the fact that in a small game there are at least 60 dice rolled, it would, on average, urge the user of the die 10 times per game to the refrigerator to grab a beer. As most players play even more than one game a session, one should imagine the amount of your opponents that cannot make it to the rematch or that will not be able to finish the game.

I conclude that there is a debate going on on one side of the die and that this debate has not finished yet.

5 There are suggestions for the interior of the bar and some musical experiments are going on. Making it hopefully a comfortable place for everybody. And I personally favor it, if these types of contributions continue.

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