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Sounds like you have two opposing rules.





I agree with you that the SNIPER battling on any terrain on entry should trump the Only Battle if entering from adjacent hex rule, but the TERRAIN TILE may not have this exception in it's programming.

It could be argued that you are dealing with... "a terrain movement restriction" which the sniper might still have to obey.

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Nygaard wrote on Sun, 29 January 2012 15:07

rasmussen81 wrote on Sun, 29 January 2012 14:50 Erik Uitdebroeck wrote on Sun, 29 January 2012 17:42 You got me there, but the discussion is about moving into jungle. Not only moving into Jungle...Snipers moving into Jungle! There's no question that most units cannot battle if they move two hexes and end in Jungle. The rules for Jungle hexes are very clear on this point. The confusion comes when we have a unit like the French Resistance (not likely to see them in the Pacific unless someone wants to represent resistance troops with them) or Snipers who can move into terrain and battle. (My emphasis) I did actually plan to use French Resistance units for the Chinese guerrillas... And the problem with jungles will come up here for sure - when they are ordered with Infantry Assault. Hm... maybe I should test it soon.

Nygaard my thoughts as well, I was thinking about a scenario involving Filipino Guerrillas vs Japanese.

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Nightrain wrote on Sat, 17 March 2012 13:43

i believe the correct answer is that Sniper overrides the rule and should be able to move 2 hexes away into Jungle and still battle because he may battle in any terrain, so if he can battle in a city where all units can't battle, i don't see why not in jungle. Jungle provides a benefit if battling from adjacent otherwise it's like a simple forest, so if sniper can move and battle in a forest where the terrain has more restriction than Jungle, it's ridiculous for not be able to battle in a jungle. So it's clearly a bug of the game

Couldn't agree more,as it is we have two different ways of execution for 1 rule(movement restrictions rule), which is bug bug bug!

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sdnative wrote on Sat, 17 March 2012 01:13

JFKoski wrote on Fri, 16 March 2012 22:00 Well, my hypothesis is shot. With the Online game I used Infantry Assault to move French Resistance into jungle. They were allowed to battle. So something is wrong. Either the terrain movement rule (jungles, hedgerows) should dominate or the unit rule (Snipers/French Resistance/Ski Troops) should override. PS: I tested Ski Troops with Jungle & Hedgerows. The terrain rule was dominant. PPS: There's a glitch; Ski Troops should not move 4 in Infantry Assault. I had this option during Suomussalmi, went ahead and used it, then reported it after checking the FAQ. French Resistance in the Pacific are considered Jungle Fighters and should be able to assault into Jungle and still battle.

Huh - how do you conclude that those two units types (one of which is relatively new) are exactly alike? Just because someone placed FR in an unofficial scenario of their own making and stated they act like jungle fighters? What are FR units doing in a Pacific scenario anyway? What was the scenario author trying to model by including them in his scenario?

Sorry, but I have to ask these questions as your post may confuse some who read it.

The fact remains that officially FR and JF units are distinctly different units.

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My comment was for the particular scenario, the author was trying to replicate Gorilla fighters in the pacific but as of now he could only choose FR due to the online game limitations. You are correct that the rule for Jungle Fighters are different than FR.
Hope I did not confuse anyone except myself

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