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LooneyLlama

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Tue, 11 December 2012 00:30

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Trent, not sure what you mean.
Jeroen (and other tourney players), if I see you online, or maybe we can make a specific time, I would like to play test the possible final scenarios for balance. Let me know your thoughts.
Cassino definitely favors the Allies. The Axis can still win and Jeroen gave you a clue how in his above post. I think a lot of you thought that Ortona heavily favored the Allies but the score was only 3-2. The Axis won almost every time until I reduced their movement to 2 like the British.
By the way, Jeroen, Imphal/Kohima is one of my favorite scenarios. I really like how it turned out. My favorite one is 'Stalingrad North, Rattenkrieg', which will be included in the upcoming East Front tournament! This tournament will not be for the faint of heart, as there will be a lot of units and medals, with vicious urban fighting. There was nothing like the Eastern Front during WW2, and hopefully the scenarios depict this feeling.
[Updated on: Tue, 11 December 2012 02:21]
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Phread

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trentdep

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Tue, 11 December 2012 19:26

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Eric - Couldn't find the scenario... As it turns out, the night before I had sorted by theater for the first time in probably 3 months or more ( Finally got wins both sides, all scenarios - just need some more wins for promo )...
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LooneyLlama

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Mon, 17 December 2012 03:57

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Jeronimon,
Since we will be behind after the last battle between Van Voort and Trentdep, I am leaving it up to you to select the last battle.
It can be either:
1. Operation Avalanche, Battle of Salerno
2. The Advance on Leghorn (with Japanese-American troops)
3. Operation Encore (winter board with a lot of ravines)
Also, Droopy will give you his 2 point player and you get to select the lineups.
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Jeronimon

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Mon, 17 December 2012 16:16

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Well, that took me about half a second to decide : Leghorn!
This not based on how the Allies would do, but mainly because I want to play it.
In the vote Jaykay2010 and Clorofila also voted for this one, so the Axis troops feel confident about it also.
No matter, the Allies will win the day in the end! After all we can't be changing history now, can we.
(I know that in the French Meta-game the Germans won the war, but such silliness cannot be tolerated over here!
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gonzalan
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Mon, 17 December 2012 17:07

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| Jeronimon wrote on Mon, 17 December 2012 08:16 | Well, that took me about half a second to decide : Leghorn!
This not based on how the Allies would do, but mainly because I want to play it.
In the vote Jaykay2010 and Clorofila also voted for this one, so the Axis troops feel confident about it also.
No matter, the Allies will win the day in the end! After all we can't be changing history now, can we.
(I know that in the French Meta-game the Germans won the war, but such silliness cannot be tolerated over here!
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BG Jeronimon,
Thanks for your very in-depth and analytical decision in regards to the final scenario to be played. If truth be told, 1/2 second seemed a little long just in reading some of your previous posts and knowing how much thought you put into your decisions!!!
All kidding aside, briefly looked at the maps at the military archives and it appears that you were given 3 excellent choices and if based on your comment of "I would like to play it" then I take it that your have never or seldom have played it and since 2 of the AXIS members voted for it earlier, then a most logical and wise choice indeed!!
Look forward to the final encounter and if it happened in the French Meta-game, then I am sure you are well aware of what is said about History repeating itself..well that it repeats itself!!!
Long Live the Motherland and may the World rotate in favor of the AXIS!!!
Tony - Gonzalan
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Jeronimon

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Mon, 17 December 2012 21:46

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Just for the statistics. With only the Cassino match yet to be played between van Voort and Trentdep I now have the score at 24 for the Allies and 28 for the Axis. Is that correct?
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gonzalan
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Mon, 17 December 2012 22:31

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Artimon (2) vs Droopy007
van Voort vs Trentdep (2)
Jeronimon vs Jaykay2010
Lucky91 vs Gonzalan
LooneyLlama vs Clorofila
BG Jeronimon,
Entering the round it was 26-22, in favor of the almighty AXIS, based on the posted results so far, victories by Clorofila and myself, 1 pt each and for Artimon and yourself, 2 pts and 1 pt, it would stand as 28-25 AXIS as of this writing, best case 30-25 or worse case 28-26, AXIS ahead in either case at the end of the round and we will have a LEGhorn up on the ALLIES!
Tony - Gonzalan
[Updated on: Tue, 18 December 2012 00:00]
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LooneyLlama

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Wed, 19 December 2012 02:24

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Tony has it right. It's 28-25 Axis.
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trentdep

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Wed, 19 December 2012 04:45

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Perhaps VV and I can get it together soon - don't really remember what time zone he's in, but seems as if it was difficult figuring out a meet time in a previous match.
Sorry about the delay - kind of lost track of this one ( could have sworn I played this match ! ). I'll dash off a DOW message to VV now - If anyone knows his Geek mail info, let me know ( or just ask him to check his DOW mail ).
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gonzalan
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Wed, 19 December 2012 06:29

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Trent,
He was in our division in S6, think he is roughly 8-9 hours ahead, think it was Morocco, basically the same as most of the French players, but sure you will hear from him and will soon garner the 2 pts for our side!
Tony
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van Voort

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Wed, 19 December 2012 07:28

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Been about, seen trent online a couple of times but not caught him.
Normally around ealy mornings and early afternoons/evenings this week
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trentdep

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Wed, 19 December 2012 07:28

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" same as French players " ...
Yeah - That makes sense - not sure I've played more than 1 match against someone that wasn't in their time zone...
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Droopy007

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Thu, 20 December 2012 20:28

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28 - 26 then,suspens still on !
I'll be the 2 pointer for this last and decisive round.
One last effort team! Go go go Axis !!
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gonzalan
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Thu, 20 December 2012 21:03

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| Droopy007 wrote on Thu, 20 December 2012 12:28 | 28 - 26 then,suspens still on !
I'll be the 2 pointer for this last and decisive round.
One last effort team! Go go go Axis !!
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"And a child shall lead them", wait that is the wrong story!!
Strong show of Leadership, taking the point and the 2 pt man for the round, sure to give the ALLIED contingent pause coming into Leghorn.
Yes, the suspense is on!! 3 pts and it is ours, 2 pts and we break even, 1 or zero, then easily explained how we went from Heroes to Zeroes!!!
Look forward to this, the final shot at GLORY, for both sides.
As General George Armstrong Custer once said: "Who? Me? Surrounded? It is but one Little Indian!"
Of course we all know it turned out to be 10 Little Indians!!
[Updated on: Thu, 20 December 2012 21:05]
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Jeronimon

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LooneyLlama

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gonzalan
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Fri, 21 December 2012 17:23

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Eric,
Just finished my 1st encounter with Leghorn, still having palpations BTW.
Question, ALLIES on turn 15, moved ARMOR from F2 to F4, escarpment on F5 and fired on my SF UNIT on F7, would escarpment on F5 block LOS in this case?
Did send you a PM with the link of the turn, guess I could also include here, for visualization purposes!!!
http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44-online/en/battle/?id=33 525895#replay:turn=15
If not the case, I had better prepare properly pronto!!
Thanks,
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LooneyLlama

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Fri, 21 December 2012 21:44

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Tony,
That is a bug that I missed! Darn. To correct it I removed one hill hex in front of the German Special Forces. Now it won't be continuous from the hill with the armor on to the German inf. The escarpment will now block line of sight. I really didn't want an Allied armor such an easy attack on that inf. Thanks.
Eric
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gonzalan
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trentdep

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Sun, 23 December 2012 09:24

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Clarification on Engineers fighting out of wadis. Since they ( like all units ) can only fight out of a wadi in a close assault, they would then fight with no dice reductions?
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LooneyLlama

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Sun, 23 December 2012 17:05

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Trentdep,
Good question. I don't know the answer. It hasn't come up in the battles I fought. I would venture to guess that it would still attack at -1. I will play the scenario and confirm.
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Jeronimon

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Fri, 28 December 2012 09:27

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Gentlemen
Wee seem to be in the lead again, this has not happened since we failed around Troina.
Firstly on the percentage: it seems it was more unbalanced than we thought. If I look at the figures now it is only a 17% chance to win for the Axis. However my own statistics might give my nemesis Droopy007 some hope. As Allies I lost 2 out of 7 matches, but as Axis I have not been defeated once on the scenario. so my statistics say 10 games 5 wins Allies 5 wins Axis.
Granted 7 games against Hermann and three against humans. One win over Clorofila with me as Allies for the tournament and a double win over Helcat. So I lost two matches to Hermann while I was Allies.
I think the scenario is fun, but as the germans with four cards you have to be very cautious or play like Johnny and tear the Allies up. This can be done by maximizing as only johnny can and throwing caution into the wind, move forward and hope the cards will come.
As the Allies there are many ays to advance but on the Leghorn flank there are many opposing troops on the higher ground and on the Toretta flank it is hard getting past the woods. In the middle the wadis and mountains hamper advancing of both sides. Take care to mobilize those backward units, for you will need them when the fighting begins.
So Gentleman, our hope is once more on the splendid van Voort to save our bacon.
Since he has done this so many times before I rest easy and offer my opponents once more the option of complete and utter surrender. The defeat of General Droopy will otherwise be the Crown on our campaign. Yes, we were a bit lagging at Etna Ortona and Cassino, but we stiff upper lipped ourselves to this magnificent 30-29 lead.
Van Voort and Droopy:
The stage is set, the battle lines are drawn, and you are in command.
The rest is . . . . . . . .
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gonzalan
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Fri, 28 December 2012 15:52

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| Jeronimon wrote on Fri, 28 December 2012 01:27 | Gentlemen
Wee seem to be in the lead again, this has not happened since we failed around Troina.
Firstly on the percentage: it seems it was more unbalanced than we thought. If I look at the figures now it is only a 17% chance to win for the Axis. However my own statistics might give my nemesis Droopy007 some hope. As Allies I lost 2 out of 7 matches, but as Axis I have not been defeated once on the scenario. so my statistics say 10 games 5 wins Allies 5 wins Axis.
Granted 7 games against Hermann and three against humans. One win over Clorofila with me as Allies for the tournament and a double win over Helcat. So I lost two matches to Hermann while I was Allies.
I think the scenario is fun, but as the germans with four cards you have to be very cautious or play like Johnny and tear the Allies up. This can be done by maximizing as only johnny can and throwing caution into the wind, move forward and hope the cards will come.
As the Allies there are many ays to advance but on the Leghorn flank there are many opposing troops on the higher ground and on the Toretta flank it is hard getting past the woods. In the middle the wadis and mountains hamper advancing of both sides. Take care to mobilize those backward units, for you will need them when the fighting begins.
So Gentleman, our hope is once more on the splendid van Voort to save our bacon.
Since he has done this so many times before I rest easy and offer my opponents once more the option of complete and utter surrender. The defeat of General Droopy will otherwise be the Crown on our campaign. Yes, we were a bit lagging at Etna Ortona and Cassino, but we stiff upper lipped ourselves to this magnificent 30-29 lead.
Van Voort and Droopy:
The stage is set, the battle lines are drawn, and you are in command.
The rest is . . . . . . . .

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Gentlemen,
Yes, it so seems that you are in the lead, but rest assured, it will be short-lived!! And thanks to our leader, D-007, it will not be final and will in fact, be reversed!!
And since I have been around, this is indeed the 1st time the ALLIES are in the lead, coincidence, perhaps, ha, but of course not, we know I had nothing to do about keeping you out of the lead!!!
As BG Jeronimon stated, fun scenario indeed and though cards are in favor of ALLIES, 5-4, not impossible for the AXIS and especially with our leader in the final position to claim victory against an excellent opponent in V V.
As for me, I also played 10 times 9 as AXIS and 1 ALLIES, 8 against Johnny/Hermann and had a 7-1 record against them as AXIS, yes, not a human opponent, but they like to pressure and push the action and more often than not, they had the dice advantage, but did not alway lead to victory and their card play is always to maximize the dice.
As for my human interaction, well, we know the results of that one, darn you ARTIMON the ALLIED, 8-5!! But scenario was going to form, for me anyway, 5-3 by turn 12 of a 19 turn game, from previous encounters with J and H, but ARTIMON had the cards throughout to eventually storm me on my exposed RF after he had taken care of my troops on the hills and bunkers and my 1 unsuccessful attempt to repel him with my AA, well, needless to say, victory was his.
As for my turn as ALLIES, it was 8-2 me with a successful capture of LEGHORN and some key misses by ARTIMON at the end, unfortunately for me, he chose to miss in the wrong game!! So, DROOPY007, it can be a tough go as proven, with the exception of Trentdep's victory, but with your skill and play of the cards, it can be done!!
Besides, unbalanced or not, we play for the FUN of the game and victories and loses are secondary, but of course, would like to see an AXIS victory!! Fun is an important FACTOR, afterall, we could not ask for anything more fitting for a finale, 30-29 ALLIES with victory in the balance on the final battle!! Besides, how fun would it have been if the score stood either 59-0 for the AXIS or ALLIES at this point?!!!
Bravo, LooneyLlama / Eric and all the participants, for wonderful theater and an exciting Front during this tournament!!
[Updated on: Fri, 28 December 2012 15:56]
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clorofila

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Sat, 29 December 2012 13:16

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Although still a good map, The Advance on Leghorn was a bit of disappointing (I am to blame too, since I voted for it!). Two main reasons:
1) One of the sides plays only with 4 cards, which is a rarity in Eric's work and a severe limitation when it comes to develop a plan of action. This is the most important reason, and I missed it completely when I voted for the 3 final scenarios.
2) The scenario is unbalanced to the point where Axis will have a low percentage of games where it will be worth it to go offensive rather than defend. I could be wrong about this and I'm very far from being an expert in Memoir 44, but that's my feeling after 6 matches (1 as Allies) and only 1 victory as Axis.
Axis left flank is completely defensive, due to the difference of numbers and quality there. The medal at Toretta won't help either.
Central area is just too risky while there are both arty. Tanks can maneuver there, but Allies should only do it if Axis put themselves in the open (forests, hills and cities make it difficult to find good targets) and Axis will suffer from numbers disadvantage once again, if they move forward.
Where Axis may have some chance is in their right flank, but only if the opponent won't be able to get cards to fight back, because once again, the numbers favor them a lot. Allied greatest disadvantage there is that troops are on the baseline and may be unable to retreat.
I would love to try this one out with 5 cards for each side, as I still find Leghorn an interesting map. Again, blame Eric for placing such high standards scenario-wise along both Tournaments!
Anyway, it would be hard to ask for more: a Tournament (how many scenarios there were?) which will be decided in the last match! Awesome!!!
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Jeronimon

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Sat, 29 December 2012 13:36

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Well I would offer Droopy one final chance to surrender, but he gave is answer to van Voort in a way that cannot be misunderstood. (8-1 pfiew, Commisserations to you van Voort))
Gentlemen, it seems the Axis has prevailed and we are to surrender to Axis high command immediately. I will take full blame for this defeat, after all you were only following orders.
Gentlemen,
A tournament that ended with the decision in the last match and on the score 31-30 can only be called satisfactory. (If we won I would have called it a great success ).
It has been a privilege to serve with/against you. I hope to see all of you on battlefields in the future.
and (my hands are trembling and slowly the horrible message is formed on the keyboard): congratulations to sdnative, clorofila, Trentdep, Jaykay2010, Gonzalan and truly my Nemesis the infernal brilliant master criminal Droopy007. I humbly bow my head to such tactical mastery. Well done gentlemen opponents!
Useless statistics:
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10-2 Artimon (games 8-2)
9-4 Droopy007 (games7-3)
8-6 Clorofila (games 6-4)
7-4 Jeronimon (games 6-4)
6-6 Sdnative/Gonzalan (games 5-5)
5-9 van Voort (games 4-6)
4-7 Lucky91 (games 4-6)
4-7 Trentdep (games 4-6)
4-7 Jaykay2010 (games 3-7)
4-9 LooneyLlama (games 3-7)
Well at least our tournament organizer seems to have had no distinct advantage 
To everybody
A big thank you for competing in this tournament, you/we made it a lot of fun and a very enjoyable experience.
Eric
Thank you so much for organizing this tournament, it was tremendous fun (but for the losing of course).
Thank you very much!
On to the East!
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van Voort

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Sat, 29 December 2012 13:53

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I also would like to thank the mighty Llama
When I finish Goose Green I would like to do a Chaco War scenario in his honour
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Droopy007

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Sat, 29 December 2012 13:56

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We did it !
Close to the end ! Very fun !
Indeed, I was a little away from the game lately, and didn't have time to answer dear General Jeronimon ! But you guessed it right, my answer came from the field of battle this time . I'm proud to make you bow, but do not please... You've proven a fierce opponent and a great leader, I certainly could learn from your leadership, and will do .
Thank you all indeed, very interesting battles, tough ones, close ones... Everything so the tournament is a success (yeah, I dare say it ) !!
Many thanks to the Axis team, who clearly did their job ! Well done guys !!
Many thanks to the Allies team, who never surrendered and fight to the end, keeping the suspens on edge right to the end. Well done too !!!
And of course, special and greater THANKS and BRAVO to Eric for organising this tournament ! It was all fun and enjoyment !
I hope too I will cross your pathes on the field again !
And side note for Eric, if ever you need a substitute for one match or more in your eastern tournament, please do not hesitate to ask me. I saw it coming much too late as I wasn't paying attention. But would be glad to help any team if needed 
See you all !
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gonzalan
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Sat, 29 December 2012 16:19

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Useless statistics:
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10-2 Artimon (games 8-2)
9-4 Droopy007 (games7-3)
8-6 Clorofila (games 6-4)
7-4 Jeronimon (games 6-4)
6-6 Sdnative/Gonzalan (games 5-5)
5-9 van Voort (games 4-6)
4-7 Lucky91 (games 4-6)
4-7 Trentdep (games 4-6)
4-7 Jaykay2010 (games 3-7)
4-9 LooneyLlama (games 3-7)
BG Jeronimon,
Not useless at all, very interesting breakdown of the points amongst the participants, though AXIS top heavy, lead by Droopy007 and his 2nd in command, Clorofila, 17 total points out of 31, more than half, the bottom 3 held together just enough, 20-14 in points, to effectively offset the brilliant play of Artimon!!
Though I only took part in the final 3 rounds and 1st time experiencing this team format, seemed very balanced and the final score, 31-30, reflected such and also Eric's fine work on his scenarios.
You showed your excellent leadership skills in directing your troops and they responded by providing such a close and tight fight throughout, not sure, without looking back at all the results, but from my involvement, the biggest lead as 4 pts, probably not much more for either side, quality scenarios, quality opponents and thus a close fight!! Alas, if not for your arch nemesis, Droopy007, apparently that spy glass serves a purpose, you would have been victorious!!
Excellent sportsmanship and fair play displayed by all involved and a real treat to have gotten in towards the end and to experience life as it might have been in WWII!!
Trudge on towards the Eastern Front and perhaps Fate will have a change of heart and bestow a different fortune amongst the ALLIES!!
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clorofila

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Sat, 29 December 2012 16:45

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Thank you all for this great Tournament, it was an honor to me to be a part of it.
Thank you to my team mates, who accomplished the ultimate victory!
Thank you to my opponents, who could have easily achieved the ultimate victory: 1 single, «fart-size» point (forgive the expression)!
Special thanks to Eric for putting this together and for producing so many top-level scenarios for our own delighted enjoyment!
Cheers!
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LooneyLlama

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Sun, 30 December 2012 01:08

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Thanks everyone for the kind words. All of you have made this a great success. I am really looking forward to playing our next one. It's always fun to play with friends!
Damien, I will make sure you get to play some scenarios for me.
Andre, I also think that Leghorn favors the Allies. I was surprised you picked that over Operation Encore which I feel is very balanced. Damien's 8-1 vicory is absolutely remarkable. By the way, your analysis of the map is dead on. I wanted to make it where you were enticed to go after Leghorn(I did the same thing). However, that is the most easily defended area. NOt every scenario will have both sides on the attack. Defensive play can be just as much fun. I'll grant you, though, that 5 cards would probably even it out.
Thanks everyone, and on to the steppes of the Motherland!!
Eric
P.S. I'm fighting a bad flu, but look on the Eastern Front site for more info soon.
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Jaykay2010

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Sun, 30 December 2012 15:33

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Well done on completing what has been a GREAT tourney, and thankyou to everyone who has been involved, from team-mates to opponents (you pushed us all the way), but most of all to Eric ! It's great to play competitively amongst friends, (and even better to be on the winning side!).
Here's to the Eastern Front tourney and many more battles in 2013!
Jim
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lucky91

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Sun, 30 December 2012 22:02

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Thank you , Eric,for this great tournament. It was a great pleasure for me and the scenarios were really excellent .
Thank you to the other players , who made this tournament a great event
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clorofila

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| LooneyLlama wrote on Sun, 30 December 2012 00:08 | [...]
Andre, I also think that Leghorn favors the Allies. I was surprised you picked that over Operation Encore which I feel is very balanced.[...]
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Oh, but it looked such an interesting scenario on paper...
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