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What they forgot to put into the EP Mon, 10 September 2012 16:37
Ok, now we have an artillery piece that fires smoke shells, but they didn't give us any more smoke shells! I can make my own using my scanner and printer, but a handful in the EP would have been nice.
Which brings me to another thing,
Why not a crocodile trailer for the Hobarts Funnies? Not that I am complaining, mind you! Maybe a future expansion.


While not an item they forgot, or a complaint, but here goes.
Why are the barrels so long on the MG SWA piece? They would certainly not fit into the hex with four infantry figures.
Get ready to gasp for air, I trimmed mine.
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Mon, 10 September 2012 17:02
While not an item they forgot, or a complaint, but here goes.
Why are the barrels so long on the MG SWA piece? They would certainly not fit into the hex with four infantry figures.
Get ready to gasp for air, I trimmed mine.

http://wwwDelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1895/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1895-20928.jpg

Sacrebleu!!!!!!!!
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Mon, 10 September 2012 17:03
I'm sure that adding printed cardboard pieces would increase the cost of the expansion so it was decided that no tokens would be included. You'll notice that the rules even explain how to use a different token for the Smoke if you don't have tokens from another expansion. Smile

I'm a little confused why the MG needed to be trimmed...why not just put the gun in the front line so the barrel can stick forward? Rolling Eyes
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Mon, 10 September 2012 17:18
rasmussen81 wrote on Mon, 10 September 2012 17:03

I'm sure that adding printed cardboard pieces would increase the cost of the expansion so it was decided that no tokens would be included. You'll notice that the rules even explain how to use a different token for the Smoke if you don't have tokens from another expansion. Smile

I'm a little confused why the MG needed to be trimmed...why not just put the gun in the front line so the barrel can stick forward? Rolling Eyes


I think there is another reason Laughing
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Mon, 10 September 2012 19:43
A new set of dice would've been great.
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Mon, 10 September 2012 20:36
Maybe that will be in Equipment Pack II, along with German mobile artillery (a StuG would have been nice) and Russian TDs (how about an SU85?). Smile
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Mon, 10 September 2012 21:41
OldBloodandGuts wrote on Mon, 10 September 2012 13:36

Maybe that will be in Equipment Pack II, along with German mobile artillery (a StuG would have been nice) and Russian TDs (how about an SU85?). Smile


I have some from TOI that I bought on ebay:

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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Mon, 10 September 2012 22:54
Why use the SWA figures at all? I still prefer the badges, they are much easier to move and need little space.
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Mon, 10 September 2012 23:25
Turboheizer wrote on Mon, 10 September 2012 15:54

Why use the SWA figures at all? I still prefer the badges, they are much easier to move and need little space.


I will probably do that sometimes too. Especially when playing overlord.

      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Tue, 11 September 2012 18:00
rasmussen81 wrote on Mon, 10 September 2012 11:03

I'm a little confused why the MG needed to be trimmed...why not just put the gun in the front line so the barrel can stick forward? Rolling Eyes


One reason I am considering trimming is that all the barrels are bent so much it looks ridiculous. I've tried the hot water, straighten barrel, cold water trick on a few, but they still end up bending back. (Plus we have badges for the machine guns that look better to me and are less of a hassle.)

I'm beginning to think the EP expansion is, to be kind, not an essential expansion. To whit, another peeve: the petard mortar is ridiculously small. I gave up trying to fit it in the holes on the Churchill. Plus, they would just get lost if I used them.

As to what they forgot to put in the EP expansion: that would be French tanks and artillery and Italian tanks and infantry.
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Tue, 11 September 2012 18:52
Sgt Storm wrote on Tue, 11 September 2012 12:00

rasmussen81 wrote on Mon, 10 September 2012 11:03

I'm a little confused why the MG needed to be trimmed...why not just put the gun in the front line so the barrel can stick forward? Rolling Eyes


One reason I am considering trimming is that all the barrels are bent so much it looks ridiculous. I've tried the hot water, straighten barrel, cold water trick on a few, but they still end up bending back. (Plus we have badges for the machine guns that look better to me and are less of a hassle.)

I'm beginning to think the EP expansion is, to be kind, not an essential expansion. To whit, another peeve: the petard mortar is ridiculously small. I gave up trying to fit it in the holes on the Churchill. Plus, they would just get lost if I used them.

As to what they forgot to put in the EP expansion: that would be French tanks and artillery and Italian tanks and infantry.


I glued mine to half my units as the Equipment Pack notes said and I have had no problems.
P. 2 EP
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We recommend gluing some of the smaller accessories, especially the tiny Petard Mortar, directly onto some (but not all) of your tanks, to avoid losing them.


Hence, Equipment Pack II.
Laughing Laughing Laughing
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Tue, 11 September 2012 19:08
Sgt Storm wrote on Tue, 11 September 2012 12:00



One reason I am considering trimming is that all the barrels are bent so much it looks ridiculous. I've tried the hot water, straighten barrel, cold water trick on a few, but they still end up bending back. (Plus we have badges for the machine guns that look better to me and are less of a hassle.)




Mine did the same thing. Painted em anyway, but I've got some MGs, Tigers, and Elefants that look like they haven't taken their little blue pills...
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Tue, 11 September 2012 21:20
OldBloodandGuts wrote on Tue, 11 September 2012 19:08

[...] that look like they haven't taken their little blue pills...


My dad told me they are great... the blue pills, of course
Laughing
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Tue, 11 September 2012 22:43
Title says: What they forgot to put into the EP

My first thought was color for all the new pieces Twisted Evil ... but yeah guess the smoke shells too.
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Wed, 12 September 2012 00:04
Sgt Storm wrote on Tue, 11 September 2012 11:00

rasmussen81 wrote on Mon, 10 September 2012 11:03

I'm a little confused why the MG needed to be trimmed...why not just put the gun in the front line so the barrel can stick forward? Rolling Eyes


One reason I am considering trimming is that all the barrels are bent so much it looks ridiculous. I've tried the hot water, straighten barrel, cold water trick on a few, but they still end up bending back. (Plus we have badges for the machine guns that look better to me and are less of a hassle.)

I'm beginning to think the EP expansion is, to be kind, not an essential expansion. To whit, another peeve: the petard mortar is ridiculously small. I gave up trying to fit it in the holes on the Churchill. Plus, they would just get lost if I used them.

As to what they forgot to put in the EP expansion: that would be French tanks and artillery and Italian tanks and infantry.


Hot water (1 minute in microwave) straightened most barrels, but not HMG SWA, hence trimming. I found some small square containers with lids at the dollar store for most units. Infantry units fit into the top and bottom of a plastic card box in one compartment. All compartments are now filled with small to medium boxes. (Finish ski troops and Hobart's pieces are all that remain in bags)

      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Thu, 13 September 2012 06:22
Sgt Storm wrote on Tue, 11 September 2012 10:00

To whit, another peeve: the petard mortar is ridiculously small. I gave up trying to fit it in the holes on the Churchill.


Fit it in the holes??

Uh, they don't go in the holes, they go on the gun barrel.
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Thu, 13 September 2012 06:43
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Sgt Storm wrote on Tue, 11 September 2012 10:00

To whit, another peeve: the petard mortar is ridiculously small. I gave up trying to fit it in the holes on the Churchill.


Fit it in the holes??

Uh, they don't go in the holes, they go on the gun barrel.


Indeed...and then they are glued in place. The manual suggests that you glue about half of the mortars onto the barrels so that you don't lose them. Cool
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Fri, 14 September 2012 15:45
It is a pain in the bum that several official scenarios call for MORE than 3 Tiger tanks and Supply Trucks, whereas we're given more than enough Jeeps and Kubelwagons Sad

In my case though, I also have the ToI Tiger tanks on backup, although that's not going to be available to everyone.

It's a bit lame that most of the components came bended and warped, although I'm not sure how this can be avoided save either using a stronger plastic mix, or fitting every single figure with a plastic mould restraint.

Looks pretty damn wierd to have tanks and artillery pieces with droopy barrels Confused
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Fri, 14 September 2012 16:20
Just discovered there are not enough half tracks as well.

WHY SO MANY KUBELWAGON? Confused
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Mon, 17 September 2012 21:38
Kelly's Hero wrote on Thu, 13 September 2012 00:22

Sgt Storm wrote on Tue, 11 September 2012 10:00

To whit, another peeve: the petard mortar is ridiculously small. I gave up trying to fit it in the holes on the Churchill.


Fit it in the holes??

Uh, they don't go in the holes, they go on the gun barrel.


Okay, so I didn't read my EP rule book. Peeve turned into minor embarrassment. Embarassed But seriously, I'm not going to bother gluing those little pieces to the gun barrels.
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Tue, 18 September 2012 03:55
Sgt Storm wrote on Mon, 17 September 2012 23:38

Kelly's Hero wrote on Thu, 13 September 2012 00:22

Sgt Storm wrote on Tue, 11 September 2012 10:00

To whit, another peeve: the petard mortar is ridiculously small. I gave up trying to fit it in the holes on the Churchill.


Fit it in the holes??

Uh, they don't go in the holes, they go on the gun barrel.


Okay, so I didn't read my EP rule book. Peeve turned into minor embarrassment. Embarassed But seriously, I'm not going to bother gluing those little pieces to the gun barrels.


Then how will you remember if they are Petard Mortar units? Rolling Eyes
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Tue, 18 September 2012 17:52
rasmussen81 wrote on Mon, 17 September 2012 21:55

Sgt Storm wrote on Mon, 17 September 2012 23:38

Kelly's Hero wrote on Thu, 13 September 2012 00:22

Sgt Storm wrote on Tue, 11 September 2012 10:00

To whit, another peeve: the petard mortar is ridiculously small. I gave up trying to fit it in the holes on the Churchill.


Fit it in the holes??

Uh, they don't go in the holes, they go on the gun barrel.


Okay, so I didn't read my EP rule book. Peeve turned into minor embarrassment. Embarassed But seriously, I'm not going to bother gluing those little pieces to the gun barrels.


Then how will you remember if they are Petard Mortar units? Rolling Eyes


The ones with Pertards are the ones that don't have anything else attached, naturally. Cool
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Thu, 20 September 2012 22:22
I saw a show recently and it amazed me how the petard mortar was loaded.

Basically, the barrel was on a pivot which allowed it to go from it's horizontal firing position to a vertical position with the open end of the breach facing the hull of the tank(just forward of the turret) with the business end pointing straight up to the sky. A round was then loaded into the barrel from below by a crew member pushing the round straight up. The barrel was then swiveled back into the firing position.

[Updated on: Thu, 20 September 2012 22:22]

      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Thu, 20 September 2012 22:41
tank commander wrote on Thu, 20 September 2012 21:22

I saw a show recently and it amazed me how the petard mortar was loaded.

Basically, the barrel was on a pivot which allowed it to go from it's horizontal firing position to a vertical position with the open end of the breach facing the hull of the tank(just forward of the turret) with the business end pointing straight up to the sky. A round was then loaded into the barrel from below by a crew member pushing the round straight up. The barrel was then swiveled back into the firing position.


Is this the origin of the phrase

"swung by your own petard"? Laughing
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Fri, 21 September 2012 16:52
Achtung Panzer wrote on Thu, 20 September 2012 16:41



Is this the origin of the phrase

"swung by your own petard"? Laughing


Hamlet reference in a board-gaming forum?!? As someone with a Ph.D. in literature, I approve this message.

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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Tue, 25 September 2012 04:54
50th wrote on Mon, 10 September 2012 10:37

Ok, now we have an artillery piece that fires smoke shells, but they didn't give us any more smoke shells! I can make my own using my scanner and printer, but a handful in the EP would have been nice.


Just throw a handful of cotton balls in with the Equipment. When you go to fire smoke, just grab one, to a little creative tugging, and presto - instant 3d terrain!
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Wed, 26 September 2012 15:15
I've decided that my Memoir'44 games will be in a smoke-free environment.
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Thu, 04 October 2012 19:22
What about Flamethrower SWA? Same rules as Flamethrower tanks but a once-only use, then treat as normal Infantry.

Thanks to my son for the idea! Very Happy
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Thu, 04 October 2012 20:00
Achtung Panzer wrote on Thu, 04 October 2012 19:22

What about Flamethrower SWA? Same rules as Flamethrower tanks but a once-only use, then treat as normal Infantry.

Thanks to my son for the idea! Very Happy


That would be awesome if they include it in the 10th Anniversary Edition!
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Sun, 28 October 2012 14:08
Engineer figures!
Either a bunch of equipment that you add to an infantry unit like a SWA, or a figure with a big back pack and other equipment.
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Sun, 28 October 2012 18:13
Achtung Panzer wrote on Thu, 04 October 2012 19:22

What about Flamethrower SWA? Same rules as Flamethrower tanks but a once-only use, then treat as normal Infantry.

Thanks to my son for the idea! Very Happy


Great idea ! Smile
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Mon, 29 October 2012 04:32
Quit2 wrote on Sun, 28 October 2012 09:08

Engineer figures!

What? It didn't include figures like these...
http://retrothing.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/12/08/minesweeper.jpg
      
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Re:What they forgot to put into the EP Mon, 29 October 2012 19:02
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