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Iron Gut Heath
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Brigadier Thu, 01 May 2014 06:35
Hurrah Colonel Pedroas! You made it and have valuable info that perhaps General Jero needs to add in to the beginning of this thread...
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Brigadier Thu, 01 May 2014 14:07
I have now won my Colonel promotion and I am glad to share with you the requirements that I have found. At the risk of repeating a lot of what has already been stated, and acknowledging the efforts of others, I just feel it would be nice to have everything together.

After winning promotion to Lieutenant Colonel it is necessary to achieve the following. I advise that you start keeping records of the rank played on each game and to keep records of cadets that you play against and if they win promotion as a result of beating you. The reasons for this will become apparent. The downloadable spreadsheets that you get from your Officer Career page are very useful for keeping track but don't record the actual rank at time of the battle.
1. It is necessary to win all the official scenarios that were needed for the Lt-Col promotion as both Axis and Allies PLUS the following Med ones "Gallabat and Metemma", "Toulon" and "Tunisia", these are marked ** below, I have also included the full list for reference.
2. Play against 25 different cadets and at least 10 to get promoted against you. Probably best to play them as the underdog in the really difficult scenarios (e.g.as Axis on Arnhem Bridge) that way if they win they get their promotion and if you win then you have got one of the more difficult required wins. This means you don't have to go out to LET them win and they also learn from the experience.
3. Play against all ranks on all fronts as both factions (I set out to beat all ranks and achieved it but now I don't think this is necessary). I found that the Captain rank was the most difficult to find as they are a rare breed and tend to get to Major relatively quickly.
4. After all that, IF you haven't already reached this by the time you meet the above then you need to have played at least 250 multi-player games, win or lose (not sure if SFTF count although previous posts indicate they do).

I repeat this is ALL after being promoted to Lt-Col.

EASTERN
Breakout at Klin
Breakout to Lisyanka
Gates of Moscow
Ponyri
Red Barricades Factory
Suomussalmi
WESTERN
Arnhem Bridge
Arracourt
Counter-attack on Mortain
First Assault Wave
Juno Beach
Liberation of Paris
Mont Mouchet
Operation Cobra
Pegasus Bridge
Pointe-du-Hoc
Sainte-Mère-Eglise
Saverne Gap
St Vith
Sword Beach
Twin Villages
MEDITERRANEAN
1st Armoured to the rescue
Dug in at Sidi Omar
Escape via the Coastal Road
Flanking Maneuver at Bir Hakeim
Gallabat & Metemma **
Hellfire Pass
Into the Cauldron
Panzers versus Grants
Sidi Rezegh Airfield
Toulon **
Tunisia **

PACIFIC
Guam Landings
Japanese Counterattack
Matanikau River
Slopes of Mount Austen
Sugar Loaf and Half Moon
The Meat Grinder
Wake Island

I hope this helps and I look forward to greeting new Colonels in the future. Finally I just want to thank stevens and Iron Gut Heath who both provided me some crucial information towards the end of my promotion quest.
Pedroas
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Brigadier Thu, 01 May 2014 21:35
Thanks for the info, Pete. Look forward to making it to your attained rank someday...and I do salute when I say that, sir!
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Brigadier Fri, 02 May 2014 11:38
Congrats Pedroas on making it to Col.

      
Pedroas
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Brigadier Sat, 03 May 2014 01:12
Thanks tank commander
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Brigadier Wed, 14 May 2014 06:13
Hmmm...I've received 8 victories as a Axis and 8 as Allies as well as won as Axis at Arnhem...since then I've won a match and I haven't received my "Captain" badge.

Am I doing something wrong???...I've already played 50+ games...I feel like I should have it by now.
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Brigadier Wed, 14 May 2014 07:22
questioneer wrote on Wed, 14 May 2014 06:13

Hmmm...I've received 8 victories as a Axis and 8 as Allies as well as won as Axis at Arnhem...since then I've won a match and I haven't received my "Captain" badge.

Am I doing something wrong???...I've already played 50+ games...I feel like I should have it by now.

Looking at your career I do not see the win at Arnhem.

Did you win against a live opponent? Wins against the bot do not count.

So I would suggest you win Arnhem as Axis or first landing (Omaha) as Allies to clinch your promotion.

Good luck!
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Brigadier Wed, 14 May 2014 17:22
I got it...thanks, geez that was hard. Had to play a newbie to win at Arnhem...bridge of death...near impossible to win with experienced players, gotta have super cards and smart decisions.

20 wins seems easy for Major
80 wins in all the theaters doesn't seem bad either...just long.

Colonel and Brig Gen. are a whole different animal- those look tough.
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Brigadier Thu, 15 May 2014 07:23
Remember o get the 80 wins in the right scenarios. Cool

Again, good luck!
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Brigadier Thu, 15 May 2014 17:03
questioneer wrote on Wed, 14 May 2014 09:22

I got it...thanks, geez that was hard. Had to play a newbie to win at Arnhem...bridge of death...near impossible to win with experienced players, gotta have super cards and smart decisions.

20 wins seems easy for Major
80 wins in all the theaters doesn't seem bad either...just long.

Colonel and Brig Gen. are a whole different animal- those look tough.



Q,

No worries, of all the BG's that made it to that rank, I probably had the least clue of all as to what was needed and still somehow managed to make it to that RANK!!

Don't think I much looked at the thread as to what was required until I was a FULL BIRD and even then, just played and eventually BG came my way....so it can be done either way, by reading the reqs or as in my case, just played and they took pity on my and gave my next rank of BG!! Laughing
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Brigadier Sun, 27 July 2014 09:03
Jeronimon wrote on Mon, 22 July 2013 10:38


DOW on officer rank: Colonel

Colonels have seen - and won - it all... But the capacity to train new Cadets into Combat is what makes a true leader!

We take this to mean: You need to have won all scenarios from both sides and you need to have played 25 different cadets. All of this after your promotion to Lt Col.

Speculations:
You need to win a specified amount of battles 250 has been suggested but they probably also count expert/SFTF scenarios. Quit2 made it with 237 games since being promoted Lt. Col, but he had also played 13 SFTF scenarios.
This also only in the scenarios that are listed for LTC. (For discussion about this see second post.)
Maybe you need wins against all ranks available.
Some cadets need to promote against you (unlikely but prove it wrong and tell us)
You need a specific number of battles against cadets (unlikely but prove it wrong and tell us)



Ok, so by my recordkeeping, I've played 252 regular games since being promoted to Lt Col. (my game 220 through game 472); won all of the scenarios from both sides needed for the LTC promotion (37) + the 3 extra Meds (G&M, Toulon, Tunisia); played 32 different cadets in 50 games (39 wins, 11 loses), but only 1 was promoted against me; and played and won against all ranks (my least was against only 3 colonels).

But no promotion to colonel. I'm thinking it's because maybe another cadet(s!!) need to be promoted--what is the minimum number that others have required? And any other helpful advice as to what I might be missing would be greatly appreciated. Otherwise I guess I'll be trolling for cadets..


EDIT: uh oh, I see from Pedro's post above that he thinks you need 10 Cadets to get promoted! I really hope this isn't true because I'd hate to just start losing against people. And, although it's not quite clear, all ranks in each front--I know my Colonel must be deficient since I've only play 3 of them (where are you coloneellls...)

EDIT 2: Ok, maybe it's 10 Cadets that eventually get promoted in the future. Hmm, is there an easy way to check out my 31 cadets...?

Edit 3: Slogging through my past games I see that at least 19 of the 32 cadets that I played eventually got promoted, so it doesn't seem that it's whether they eventually get promoted...
(and now it's +1 cadet to 33 different) sigh.

[Updated on: Sun, 27 July 2014 10:57]

      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Brigadier Sun, 27 July 2014 12:05
Dave: try winning more scenarios from both sides.
The exact list of what counts and what doesn't has been debated much.
And trying to win ALL scenarios from both sides is actually a more fun objective than loosing against cadets.
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Brigadier Sun, 27 July 2014 12:31
Hi Dave,

I took the liberty of taking a look at your career.

And I would suggest winning the following maps from both sides:

Gold Beach
Knightsbridge
Utah Beach
Montélimar

These two only one win is needed:
Carentan Causeway Axis win needed
Operation Spring Allied win needed


I personally do not feel (But I could be wrong) the cadets you have played against have to promote, but almost automatically all playing cadets do. It is however important to play 25 different cadets. you cannot count one double.

But as Quit2 also suggested winning these scenarios from both sides will be more pleasurable than hunting for cadets. So try that first? Smile


Edit: and reading the second post of this thread again (i had forgotten my own stance on the matter Smile ) try to do Montélimar first!

[Updated on: Sun, 27 July 2014 12:33]

      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Brigadier Sun, 27 July 2014 20:55
Thanks so much for the Montelimar advice---

MONTELIMAR IS A REQUIRED SCENARIO FOR THE COLONEL PROMOTION.


(more later, but I gotta run now)
Smile


EDIT: here's later.

So both myself, and then 5-hours-later newly minted Colonel John J Novak, had everything needed but wins at Montelimar, so I think it pretty definitive that Montelimar is a required win/win scenario for the colonel promotion as we both were promoted completing our 2nd win there.

So it's funny that my 252 & 253 games were actually Montelimar--but only because after my 'failed' promotion we just wanted to play another match and I chose this because it seemed like a very interesting scenario that I had just 'discovered', way down at the bottom of the Med scenarios that I had never played before (losing twice to the AI always gets my attention!). And thankfully I lost both and then posted here for suggestions so we now collectively know that Monte is a requirement (otherwise I probably would have just thought I miscounted or something). I likely would have played it some more anyways, but I hate to imagine how many poor cadets I would have had to play before getting promoted. Laughing

Finally, I just wanted to give some advice to those that follow trying to get a Colonel promotion: you need:
1) win all the 37 LtC scenarios, plus the 4 extra Med scenarios (G&M, Toulon, Tunisia, and Montelimar);
2) play 25 cadets--10 of which eventually get promoted--only 1 cadet got promoted playing me. (So play these sooner rather than later so they have time to get promoted (and I would combine this with all of the very hard, required scenarios))
3) play 250 games since LtC promotion;
4) and maybe play all ranks (this one's a bit fuzzy but it likely always works itself out if you just play people).


[Updated on: Mon, 28 July 2014 03:46]

      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Brigadier Sun, 27 July 2014 22:23
dave65tdh wrote on Sun, 27 July 2014 14:55

Thanks so much for the Montelimar advice---

MONTELIMAR IS A REQUIRED SCENARIO FOR THE COLONEL PROMOTION.


(more later, but I gotta run now)
Smile


Indeed, Dave got the promotion against me in that scenario today after his win in Montelimar, so I can vouch for this! Also seems to eliminate any guessing about 'delays' in the promotion after meeting the requirements.
      
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