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Mislav_88
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Overall ranking explanation Sat, 08 February 2014 00:13
Hello, can you please explain the "Overall ranking" for Ticket To Ride game?
I have only played Ticket to Ride: Europe so far and my ranking is 1441, while my Overall ranking is 1272 even though I haven't played any other games.
      
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Re:Overall ranking explanation Sat, 08 February 2014 00:16
The ratings for any particular map in general are higher than the overall ratings; something to do with the map ratings starting later I think.
      
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Re:Overall ranking explanation Sat, 08 February 2014 02:43
Mislav_88 wrote on Fri, 07 February 2014 18:13

Hello, can you please explain the "Overall ranking" for Ticket To Ride game?
I have only played Ticket to Ride: Europe so far and my ranking is 1441, while my Overall ranking is 1272 even though I haven't played any other games.


Ranking is also impacted by the ratings of who you play. So if you play a game against someone who is rated 1600 Europe, but 1200 overall; you obtain different points won or lost.
If you beat the above player, you gain basically 5 points in Europe, and 1 point in overall. If you lose to the same player, you basically go down 3 points in Europe and down 5 points in overall.

Every 2 player game often is worth 8 points in some fashion with a math formula. If you play someone at equal points to you, it is +4 to winner -4 to loser. But rating in lopsided game have much greater point swings if lower player wins. Higher player wins, not much is gained. It is all on a a math formula.

One more note: it is why you see so many games titled: 1400+ or 1500+. many People want to play equal level to avoid big point swings.

I also see you are playing multi which means great point swings, and losing to lower ranked players really costs you.

[Updated on: Sat, 08 February 2014 04:05]

      
Mislav_88
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Re:Overall ranking explanation Sat, 08 February 2014 03:27
OK I understand that my Overall is lower because other, very low rated Overall players beat me first 7-8 games. But why is EVERYONE's overall so much lower than their individual ratings?
Also, it would be cool to be able to see immediately the map ratings for a map I am currently playing at. Seems like I always have to go online and see what my opponent's true rating is for Europe, let's say. Because overall rating doesn't really mean much, they could just be much worse (or better) in other TtR games, and also the overall rating itself is already quite low (for some reason).
This all sounds very confusing to me. Which rating should be more important to me? Logic says Europe (since I only play that), but you can't even see it in the app.

[Updated on: Sat, 08 February 2014 03:27]

      
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Re:Overall ranking explanation Sat, 08 February 2014 04:22
To the best of my knowledge:

More people play US than Europe, ergo there are fewer players to 'Rank' in EU.

If you're ranked 50th in Europe, out of 100 people, but 200 people play USA, logically, you're going to rank about 100th out of 200 in US. So, while your EU ranking is higher (Top 50 in the example) and your Overall is lower (equating to top 100 in the example, as more people play TTR than Europe specifically), neither suggests lower skill, just relative rankings for those maps.

(I am aware these are ELO ranks, but the 50th/100th thing was an example to explain my understanding)
      
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Re:Overall ranking explanation Tue, 11 February 2014 12:07
Thanks everyone for the answers. I have one more question regarding ratings. If I play a 4-player game and win, do I get triple amount of points? Does it count as if I have beat 3 individual opponents? Because I just gained 5 pts for winning the 4-player game vs similarly rated opponents. Feels like I should have gotten more.
      
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Re:Overall ranking explanation Tue, 11 February 2014 14:15
Mislav_88 wrote on Tue, 11 February 2014 06:07

Thanks everyone for the answers. I have one more question regarding ratings. If I play a 4-player game and win, do I get triple amount of points? Does it count as if I have beat 3 individual opponents? Because I just gained 5 pts for winning the 4-player game vs similarly rated opponents. Feels like I should have gotten more.


If they were really similar in the number rating (within 75 of your number), then you should have gotten more. In a 4 or 5 player, against ratings close to yours, you would gain 10-12; and if you place second, you also gain points. But if a 1600+ rated person plays with 3 other 1200+, the gain is about 3 points. Might even be that gain with a 1400+ and 3 others who are 1200 or lower. BUT also know that If that 1600 or 1400 player would come in 2nd in that game, they would lose points.

It really is why so many people put their game titles: 1400+, 1500+, 1600+. There is a level of competition that is similar to be sure, but also the risk/reward for people who care about the ratings. AND while most of us care little about the ratings, we do like to play with people who are 1600 levels, and many 1600, 1700 level players will not play if your rating is too low. So it makes it tough to say, come on in you at 1300.
      
    
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