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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Wed, 09 July 2008 17:17
Roobarb wrote on Mon, 07 July 2008 08:41

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thanks for the link
hears one in return
http://www.lrdg.org/index.html


Thanks Roob. I read a book about the Long Range Desert Group a while back. Those had to be a special kind of soldier to be able to travel so far in the desert and move around behind enemy lines so much! Shocked Thanks for the great links, guys.
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Thu, 10 July 2008 23:13
DoW staff please give us a hint on when this is coming.

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Fri, 11 July 2008 23:27
Yes please, at least tease us!

I vote for half Matildas, half Churchills. Thats gives us '40-42 and '44-45 scenarios and the chance of refighting the Raid on Dieppe.

Also really like the Airpack. Some of the models are fab, but I am afraid the Spitfire was dissapointing. So for the Brit expansion lets throw in a Typhoon - after all this was the Brit plane that kept the german forces pinned down, and a Lysnader so that there is an allied plane that can do rescue missions. Might also open up some interesting SOE scenarios as well.

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 03:39
rasmussen81 wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 16:17

Roobarb wrote on Mon, 07 July 2008 08:41

Wrecker hay
thanks for the link
hears one in return
http://www.lrdg.org/index.html


Thanks Roob. I read a book about the Long Range Desert Group a while back. Those had to be a special kind of soldier to be able to travel so far in the desert and move around behind enemy lines so much! Shocked Thanks for the great links, guys.


you mean NUTS Laughing
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 04:56
I don't see much point in new British or French figures. Or any other nationality for that matter. They are no more necessary to the game than seperate figures for US Marines. More figures means more bulk to lug around. In any case, the figs in M44 are about 1/72nd scale, so if you want them you can buy plasic British figures from companies that specialize in that sort of thing. You can even buy them in desert uniforms if you want to. I bought 1/72nd scale Japanese infantry before the Pacific expansion was released and wrote my own scenario. They looked great on the board because I was able to use several different poses.

      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 05:43
so why buy 1,72 japs why not just use the germans
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 05:48
gunhawk wrote on Mon, 14 July 2008 21:56

More figures means more bulk to lug around. In any case,...


Sorry, I could not help but chuckle while I read this line and looked over at my M44 carrying case which is filled to the brim with stuff already. Laughing

I, for one, want Richard and DoW to do a further treatment of the British beyond the existing limited rules using markers and scenario-specific units. The sought-after British focus for quite a few fans is the specific British theaters of the war. For me, its more than figures. I want M44 game mechanics that apply to the British similar to the Russian stuff. I know some people argue that the British are already represented, but I think I'm looking for the Axis & Allies five sides to this two-sided war.

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 08:17
Roobarb wrote on Mon, 14 July 2008 23:43

so why buy 1,72 japs why not just use the germans
you are an idiot



You're obviously not too bright, so I'll explain it to you.

If you *want* to have several different figure types to make your games more aesthetically pleasing, you can simply buy the figures that satisfy you. I, for one, would rather not be *compelled* to carry several different "official" figure types to the World Boardgaming Championships wondering which factions will be used in a tournament. But thanks for your invaluable input.
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 09:58
Alternative 1:72 Infantry are easy enough to find but 1:144 tanks or artillery are more difficult. I'd quite like some actual US and German artillery (rather than anti-tank guns), but I haven't found any in plastic, and am not sure that I want to go to metal.
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 11:43
DoW should investigate a joint venture with Perrin to provide different armour and artillery types in sets of 2 or 3. Players could then customise their own forces.
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 16:31
Sliderule wrote on Tue, 15 July 2008 03:58

Alternative 1:72 Infantry are easy enough to find but 1:144 tanks or artillery are more difficult. I'd quite like some actual US and German artillery (rather than anti-tank guns), but I haven't found any in plastic, and am not sure that I want to go to metal.


You'e right about the tanks, but they're already a problem when you try to jam 4 of them into a hex. I usually add one tank from Axis & Allies as the 4th tank in an elite unit, but they're really not that good looking. I dunno. I wouldn't want to go to markers as that takes something away from the appeal of the game too. Maybe GHQ micro armor would do the trick.
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 18:56
I took a look at my old GHQ micro armor and four t-34s, Panthers, or Tigers fit perfectly in an M44 hex. I'll bet some enterprising soul could make a few bucks with after market tanks for M44 in that scale.
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 20:31
Happy Birthday!

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  Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 21:26
American Expansion

When oh when are Days of Wonder going to get their act together and finally release the American expansion to Battlore. Its been out two years now and still no sign of the all important American forces. How can you have a wargame set in Europe with no American armies to come along (eventually) and sort the mess out.

At least Battlelore have got the British in it to get the whole war going, unlike over at M44 where I understand they havent even got the Brits!

Am I in the wrong Forum? Rolling Eyes
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 22:36
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American Expansion

When oh when are Days of Wonder going to get their act together and finally release the American expansion to Battlore. Its been out two years now and still no sign of the all important American forces. How can you have a wargame set in Europe with no American armies to come along (eventually) and sort the mess out.

At least Battlelore have got the British in it to get the whole war going, unlike over at M44 where I understand they havent even got the Brits!

Am I in the wrong Forum? Rolling Eyes


Confused Anybody else confused? Confused Laughing
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 22:49
makes sense to me Laughing
as we all know thanks to hollywood britan played no part in ww2
and as we all know america is the world and evrything else is a figment of our collective imagination
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 22:55
Thought it might take a fellow Brit to get it......


Its illogical to have a WW2 game based in NW Europe and not have the Brits, as illogical as having US forces in Battlelore.
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 23:05
guybee wrote on Tue, 15 July 2008 21:55

Thought it might take a fellow Brit to get it......


Its illogical to have a WW2 game based in NW Europe and not have the Brits, as illogical as having US forces in Battlelore.


havent you heard britain and the commonwealth are no more important than us marines it seems that most americans think that were the 51st state

a logical reason for haveing an american expanson is that them poor americans cant relate to anyone who isnt an american Laughing
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 23:08
guybee wrote on Tue, 15 July 2008 13:55

Thought it might take a fellow Brit to get it......


Its illogical to have a WW2 game based in NW Europe and not have the Brits, as illogical as having US forces in Battlelore.


I seem to recall more than just Americans or British taking part in NW Europe...perhaps Hollywood isn't the only history that is skewed...hmmm.
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 23:32
Brummbar, you are right of course

Actually I dont think we will get a 'British Expansion', we never got a Russian one but an Eastern Front for example. I think we will get a Fall of France or more likely a Desert War expansion.

I'd prefer the former, it would allow the French to be included (Char B's please) and it could add in some Pzr II's and III's, more appropriate to that time.

The Desert War version could introduce the Italians of course, and the much desired Crusader

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Tue, 15 July 2008 23:52
Brummbär wrote on Tue, 15 July 2008 22:08

guybee wrote on Tue, 15 July 2008 13:55

Thought it might take a fellow Brit to get it......


Its illogical to have a WW2 game based in NW Europe and not have the Brits, as illogical as having US forces in Battlelore.


I seem to recall more than just Americans or British taking part in NW Europe...perhaps Hollywood isn't the only history that is skewed...hmmm.



yes you are right it was a world war after all
skewed nah not me the italians would also make a nice adition as would the french but the british must come first
infact turn back time before the air pack ,the poxy bag and the pasific exp infact it should have been the first exp

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Wed, 16 July 2008 00:03
For the record though...I want the Brits too! (I can pretend they are Canadians) Very Happy

Just kidding...it's coming though...one day, we will get that expansion. And many more I hope!
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Wed, 16 July 2008 01:25
Hello,

Yes for a brit expansion first but the choice of the tank is a real problem. We can consider a first time war tank like mathilda or a desert tank like crusader even if this tank isn't the best one. personnaly, i prefer a Churchill tank although infantry tank. The best would be half mathilda and half valentine or cromwell. We W'll see.
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Wed, 16 July 2008 14:26
desert rats link
http://www.ian.a.paterson.btinternet.co.uk/
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Wed, 16 July 2008 16:13
Just so you know, Roob, I agree completely that the Brits would have been the logical first expansion (or even better, the origional Allied troops). Smile

Like Brummbar, I expect we'll see the British Expansion relatively soon...after all, we have to find out what this "stiff upper lip" rule is! Cool

As always, thanks for the link. Very Happy
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Wed, 16 July 2008 16:46
gunhawk wrote on Mon, 14 July 2008 22:26

I don't see much point in new British or French figures. Or any other nationality for that matter. They are no more necessary to the game than seperate figures for US Marines.


Wy buy any of the other extensions for that matter? download the rules, proxy the terrain and the figures. Twisted Evil Wy buy a desert/winter board? Just for some white terrain?, who need this Rolling Eyes

How many of us got Memoir44 for the "toy soldier look" before knowing how great a game it is?

gunhawk wrote on Mon, 14 July 2008 22:26


More figures means more bulk to lug around. In any case, the figs in M44 are about 1/72nd scale, so if you want them you can buy plasic British figures from companies that specialize in that sort of thing. You can even buy them in desert uniforms if you want to.


Figures in 1/72 yes, (Airfix, Revell, Esci, got them all), but tanks in 1/160? only Perrin: valentines, Yuck!

British had "particular" ways of fighting, they need their own national rules.

And there is no problem about the lugging around with the sensational new bag Twisted Evil
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Wed, 16 July 2008 16:51
guybee wrote on Tue, 15 July 2008 16:25

Thought it might take a fellow Brit to get it......


Its illogical to have a WW2 game based in NW Europe and not have the Brits, as illogical as having US forces in Battlelore.


No, we need a Yank, with Knights on bycicles Very Happy
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Wed, 16 July 2008 17:20
I've narrowed down the options for the tank Wink

Mark I medium tank
Mark II medium tank
Mark III medium tank
Mark Vib light tank
Mark Vic light tank
Mark I cruiser tank
Mark II cruiser tank
Mark III cruiser tank
Mark IVA cruiser tank
Crusader Mk. I cruiser tank
Crusader Mk. II cruiser tank
Crusader Mk. III cruiser tank
Cromwell Mk. I cruiser tank
Cromwell Mk. IV cruiser tank
Challenger cruiser tank
Comet cruiser tank
Centurion Mk. I cruiser tank
Mark VII Tetrarch light tank
Mark I infantry tank
Matilda Mk. II infantry tank
Matilda Mk. III infantry tank
Matilda Mk. IV infantry tank
Churchill Mk. I infantry tank
Churchill Mk. IV infantry tank
Churchill Mk. VII infantry tank
Valentine Mk. II
Valentine Mk. III
Valentine Mk.VIII
Archer SP anti-tank
Bishop SP artillery
Tortoise heavy tank
Grant I medium tank
Sherman VC Firefly medium tank
Achilles IIC SP anti-tank
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Wed, 16 July 2008 22:20
Hmmm, not the Sherman, Grant or Achilles (upgunned american M-10 Wolverine).

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Wed, 16 July 2008 23:53
Come come now, where is the imagination?

What about the Covenanter - 1700 made and put into service, ran too hot to put in the desert and too useless to send to Normandy. They patrolled the streets of Kent in the mid 40's fending off knife crime (topical joke). Only Britain could make so many useless tanks (IN comparison Germany only made 1000 Tigers)

More realistically you are missing the Tetrarch

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Thu, 17 July 2008 00:19
yangtze wrote on Wed, 16 July 2008 08:20

I've narrowed down the options for the tank Wink

Mark I medium tank
Mark II medium tank
Mark III medium tank
Mark Vib light tank
Mark Vic light tank
Mark I cruiser tank
Mark II cruiser tank
Mark III cruiser tank
Mark IVA cruiser tank
Crusader Mk. I cruiser tank
Crusader Mk. II cruiser tank
Crusader Mk. III cruiser tank
Cromwell Mk. I cruiser tank
Cromwell Mk. IV cruiser tank
Challenger cruiser tank
Comet cruiser tank
Centurion Mk. I cruiser tank
Mark VII Tetrarch light tank
Mark I infantry tank
Matilda Mk. II infantry tank
Matilda Mk. III infantry tank
Matilda Mk. IV infantry tank
Churchill Mk. I infantry tank
Churchill Mk. IV infantry tank
Churchill Mk. VII infantry tank
Valentine Mk. II
Valentine Mk. III
Valentine Mk.VIII
Archer SP anti-tank
Bishop SP artillery
Tortoise heavy tank
Grant I medium tank
Sherman VC Firefly medium tank
Achilles IIC SP anti-tank



I'm glad you were able to narrow it down so much! Laughing Rolling Eyes
I'm really just hoping for the expansion itself...I'll take whichever tank they choose and any soldier position. Smile
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Thu, 17 July 2008 00:52
Yes, missed the Covenanter Guybee, but the Tetrarch is present and correct about half way down the list Very Happy
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Thu, 17 July 2008 02:44
hay rasmussen81 i remember Smile from the last time the red mist descended i have a long memory for such things probaly got it from my serbian side Laughing
yea it looks like a nice site i havent had a propper look yet
i was looking for color ref for my new fast assembly cromwell tanks from hat
http://www.hat.com/Curr00/Bx99013CR.html
2 1,72 tanks for £5.50 cant be bad whats that about $11?
so i got 2 boxs Laughing who knows maybe 1 day i might be able to whip out the measuring tape an roll some bones Razz Cool

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Thu, 17 July 2008 13:16
yangtze wrote on Wed, 16 July 2008 16:20

I've narrowed down the options for the tank Wink

Mark I medium tank
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Achilles IIC SP anti-tank




Hell, Yangtze, comprehensive list but you forgot the Septic Tank.

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Thu, 17 July 2008 16:30
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hay rasmussen81 i remember Smile from the last time the red mist descended i have a long memory for such things probaly got it from my serbian side Laughing
yea it looks like a nice site i havent had a propper look yet
i was looking for color ref for my new fast assembly cromwell tanks from hat
http://www.hat.com/Curr00/Bx99013CR.html
2 1,72 tanks for £5.50 cant be bad whats that about $11?
so i got 2 boxs Laughing who knows maybe 1 day i might be able to whip out the measuring tape an roll some bones Razz Cool




Those are great looking models, Roobarb! Surprised They might be a little big for my Memoir games but that scale would make them a lot easier to paint.

I'm thinking I'll get some British tanks from Perrin in preperation for the coming British expansion. Any sugestion for which tank I should get? Rolling Eyes Those Cromwell's looked good...I'll have to see if they have some of those!
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Thu, 17 July 2008 18:24
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I'm thinking I'll get some British tanks from Perrin in preperation for the coming British expansion. Any sugestion for which tank I should get? Rolling Eyes



As starter, some Bishops to use as mobile artillery
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Thu, 17 July 2008 20:26
Laughing i know rasmussen81 there for a diferant game
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Thu, 17 July 2008 23:01
Roobarb wrote on Thu, 17 July 2008 11:26

Laughing i know rasmussen81 there for a diferant game


Where do you play? In a school gymnasium?! Laughing Or maybe in the back yard. Then you could really use those weather rules that Yangtze was talking about! Very Happy
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Thu, 17 July 2008 23:49
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Roobarb wrote on Thu, 17 July 2008 11:26

Laughing i know rasmussen81 there for a diferant game


Where do you play? In a school gymnasium?! Laughing Or maybe in the back yard. Then you could really use those weather rules that Yangtze was talking about! Very Happy


well wargameing ww2 is new for me since a nameless games company wont pull there finger out of there colective #$$ and sort out a british exp Rolling Eyes and im still painting up figs and tanks but the standad sizes for 1,72 scale and upwards are 4 by 4 feet for a scermish or 8 by 4 feet for a larger battle but ive seen tables that are 6 by 10 feet Cool
      
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6 Fri, 18 July 2008 06:08
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Bring on the Brits.

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