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rasmussen81

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Sun, 31 August 2008 18:32

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| nemesszili wrote on Sun, 31 August 2008 09:03 | Actually,any new expansion when should be available in Eastern Europe or Central Europe?
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We're all waiting to hear when the Med. expansion will be available! Since it already leaked a little bit, and because people got to play with the British rules at a recent convention, I would guess we'll find out soon.
We should all have it in our eager hands before Christmas, I would guess!!
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chezzilla
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Sun, 31 August 2008 21:32

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THE BRIT ARE HERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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rasmussen81

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Sun, 31 August 2008 21:36

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| chezzilla wrote on Sun, 31 August 2008 12:32 | THE BRIT ARE HERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hey, is that Roobarb on the cover?!
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Zasdert Ultun

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Sun, 31 August 2008 22:44

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| red_zebra wrote on Mon, 17 July 2006 18:16 | A lot of us would like some British units:
I think with them we could get scenarios for France 40, 8th Army, South East Asia, with Commonwealth units against the Germans and Japanese.
I would vote for this expansion to be a dependent expansion, meaning that you will need to have Terrain and Pacific Theater, as we will have all the badges and most of the special rules, that way we will have more room for scenarios.
Maybe add some more desert / Jungle tiles
I think the Matilda II tank would better represent the British armored: they fought in France40, in the Desert and against the Japanese. (I do love cruiser tanks)
And of course some 25pdr as artillery.
just hoping here
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2006, Quite a long time in the making!
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red_zebra

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Mon, 01 September 2008 05:25

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And still no clue about the tank
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ColtsFan76

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Mon, 01 September 2008 05:44

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| rasmussen81 wrote on Sun, 31 August 2008 14:36 |
| chezzilla wrote on Sun, 31 August 2008 12:32 | THE BRIT ARE HERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hey, is that Roobarb on the cover?!
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Why yes! I do believe it is!
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rasmussen81

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Mon, 01 September 2008 07:12

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I thought I saw him!
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nemesszili

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Zasdert Ultun

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Mon, 01 September 2008 14:37

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That would just be too bad
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Randwulf

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Mon, 01 September 2008 18:04

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Jokes on Y'all...
take a look guys... The Brits on the cover are using a panzerchreck ( spelling? ) on a Tiger tank.
first off, the Pnzrchek thingy would not punch a hole in a tiger... would not even scratch it.... and the Brits did not have any... and none of them where in the Med... Think 1943???
This is all a big joke... sorry... the British are not coming... they are not even breathing hard... it is a figment of your imagination... nothing to see here... move along... not holding my breath............
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nemesszili

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Mon, 01 September 2008 18:21

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I think,that guy is using a PIAT,and a Panzerschreck should easily take out a Tiger.
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yangtze

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Mon, 01 September 2008 19:02

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Panzerschreck penetrates 230mm of armour at close range, and the Tiger has 100mm of armour on the hull at the front. The trick would be getting to close range!
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chezzilla
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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Mon, 01 September 2008 20:40

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From that Boardgame News link:
http://www.boardgamenews.com/index.php/boardgamenews/
Memoir ‘44: Mediterranean Theater includes 75 new figures (42 British infantry, 24 Crusader Tanks, six 25-pounder field guns, and three anti-tank Special Weapon Assets), 44 new double-sided terrain tiles, eight historical scenarios in North Africa, and new obstacles, markers and Special Forces badges. Says Eric Hautemont, Days of Wonder CEO, in a press release accompanying this announcement, “This expansion is just the next step in our ongoing development and support of the Memoir ‘44 game system.”
The Memoir ‘44: Mediterranean Theater expansion will retail for $30/¤25 and be available in October 2008 in both the U.S. and Europe. What’s more, the Memoir ‘44: Winter/Desert Board Map, which meshes well with the North African scenarios of this new expansion, will receive a new printing and also be back in stock in October
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Zasdert Ultun

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Tue, 02 September 2008 01:38

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| chezzilla wrote on Mon, 01 September 2008 14:40 | From that Boardgame News link:
http://www.boardgamenews.com/index.php/boardgamenews/
Memoir ‘44: Mediterranean Theater includes 75 new figures (42 British infantry, 24 Crusader Tanks, six 25-pounder field guns, and three anti-tank Special Weapon Assets), 44 new double-sided terrain tiles, eight historical scenarios in North Africa, and new obstacles, markers and Special Forces badges. Says Eric Hautemont, Days of Wonder CEO, in a press release accompanying this announcement, “This expansion is just the next step in our ongoing development and support of the Memoir ‘44 game system.”
The Memoir ‘44: Mediterranean Theater expansion will retail for $30/¤25 and be available in October 2008 in both the U.S. and Europe. What’s more, the Memoir ‘44: Winter/Desert Board Map, which meshes well with the North African scenarios of this new expansion, will receive a new printing and also be back in stock in October
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"Anti-Tank Special Weapon Assests," a new unit, exciting!
What do you think, will they Brits be the Allied Green or a different color?
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Col Hogan

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Tue, 02 September 2008 02:55

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Bright red 
What else is left?
Or bright green for Roob
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red_zebra

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Tue, 02 September 2008 05:43

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Crusaders!!!!!!!!
YES!!!!!
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Randwulf

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Tue, 02 September 2008 06:05

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It has been so long... I'll believe it when I see it in my hands...
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Randwulf

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Tue, 02 September 2008 16:48

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your right Yang... I was thinking of the Panzerfaust... ( the early ones sucked but the later ones were deadly.)
and I guess the box cover may be a bazooka???
Special Weapon Assets are
designed to be generic in nature. They are cast in grey
plastic so they can be assigned to any army regarding
of the figures' color. As a physical model we opted for the more common M1A1 Rocket Launcher - more familiarly known as the "Bazooka".
But the Bazooka did not have a blast shield???? and the fig does???
I know, I know... gripe gripe gripe... but the historical purist in me gets bugged by little things unless I get lots of Mead!!!!
uummmm... Mead.... ok I have rules... and the scenarios and I can fake the figs and tiles until my box gets here. Now I just need some MEAD!!!! oh yeah and someone to play??? well grump... now I have to wait for the boy child to get home from school!!! why do they have to go to school when Dad wants to play a game????
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stevens

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Tue, 02 September 2008 19:02

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Looking at the pictures on the website, the figures seem to be the same khaki color as the Japanese units. Maybe a bit more jaundiced. Color that is - I'm not certain about the attitude.
http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/content/mediterranea n/
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yangtze

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Tue, 02 September 2008 19:14

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You're lucky Randwulf - I have to bribe my boy to play! Luckily I teach in a school full of kids that just LOVE to play 
Yes, I'd say it's a Panzershreck rather than a bazooka - can't find a pic of a bazooka with a blast shield anywhere, but maybe there was such a version? No Panzershrecks were used in North Africa, since they arrived in October '43 (the Panzerfaust or equivalent in August '43, apparently). The Axis surrendered in North Africa in May '43. However, Panzershrecks were no doubt used in Italy, and the box cover could easily be a captured Panzershreck there.
Regarding the British infantry mini, it's great to see the desert uniform. The mini looks good, although I think the helmet looks like a mark III 'turtle' helmet, which was actually a '44 helmet type. I'd have preferred the famous mark II with the wide brim - but how nit-picky is that! In any case, when the figures arrive they may look more like mark IIs than they do in the picture. The Crusader and the 25pdr minis are both mouth-watering.
Overall, I think this is a great expansion. Not least, the Special Weapon Asset Anti-Tank gun plays beautifully. I tend to think of the unit as a standard infantry unit but with additional AT support elements. This impacts mobility, hence no taking ground.
The Stiff Upper Lip rule is cool. I half wonder if it shouldn't be applied to every close combat in which the defending British/Commonwealth unit isn't destroyed or dislodged, but then I'm a limey so I would say that wouldn't I? Other characteristics of the wartime British Army - donkyish leadership and brewing tea at inappropriate times, like in combat situations (see Villers-Bocage) - can be assumed to be built into the British Command Card allocation.
The Italian national rules are great, and the Motorised Divisions rule is simply a stroke of genius. Whoever it was at DoW that came up with that one deserves some kind of award. How do you meld the popular (not in Italy) perception of Italian troops having brittle morale and running at the drop of a mark II helmet, with the reality of a brave and determined bunch of guys who were poorly armed and poorly led? How about the Royal Italian Army Motorised Rule? Sublime.
The Airpack isn't used in this expansion. Perhaps air power wasn't decisive in these battles, but there were aircraft available to both sides over the course of the campaigns covered. After playing the scenarios as intended, players missing the familiar drone of the Merlin might want to take an Air Sortie card each at the start of the battle 
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Zasdert Ultun

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Tue, 02 September 2008 19:29

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If they didn't look different physically, it would be easy to confuse Russians, Japanese, and British. There are plenty of other colors they could have chosen while staying with military-like colors. Maybe A little redder? Gray would have worked if it weren't for the Supply trucks with the Battlemap
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broadswordcallingdannyboy
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Wed, 03 September 2008 17:36

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Yep its a Panzerschrek more of a late war weapon and limited in number to boot.
Rather I think the Brit would be armed with a Boys AT rifle. During this particular time (North Africa - Tunisia) PIAT's were rare 1 per compnay i beleive.
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red_zebra

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Thu, 04 September 2008 18:12

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Crusader with with 6 wheels, funny Tin Hat....
I am happy?, YES!!!
Why? Those are just minor details like: Us guns look like Germans Paks, access hatch in the wrong place on the T34...After all, they are just toy soldiers 
Now I can replay all those desert scenarios by Jdrommel, with British (and Italians!) rules.
Think it is time to rest this thread.
BTW, preordered the British and the Overlord expansion (just for the cards)
Will be buying some Bishops from Perrin
Go DOW
(bring the Frenchs????)
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yangtze

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Thu, 04 September 2008 18:26

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The French for sure! We should just start an 'another plea for...' thread for every expansin we'd like to see. Hey, it worked with the British 
What is the link to the Perin site btw? I'd like a Bishop or two too...
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Brummbar44

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Thu, 04 September 2008 18:41

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| yangtze wrote on Thu, 04 September 2008 09:26 |
What is the link to the Perin site btw? I'd like a Bishop or two too...
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You can try StrangeCargoGames.com though shipping might be a bit much to the UK.
In the UK (or perhaps even Europe for that matter), I would recommend Pendraken.co.uk ...quality is just as good and priced comparably.
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sniperscout

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Fri, 05 September 2008 05:32

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I had heard that Pendraken had a good range of tanks etc
I am thinking of getting some of their Tiger tanks for use as the German Special units. Has anyone done anything similar ? I am particularly interested to know if , say, 4 of the 10 mm Tiger Tanks would fit in a hex on the board ?
Any advice in this area would be very much appreciated
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rasmussen81

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Fri, 05 September 2008 06:08

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| sniperscout wrote on Thu, 04 September 2008 20:32 | I had heard that Pendraken had a good range of tanks etc
I am thinking of getting some of their Tiger tanks for use as the German Special units. Has anyone done anything similar ? I am particularly interested to know if , say, 4 of the 10 mm Tiger Tanks would fit in a hex on the board ?
Any advice in this area would be very much appreciated
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Brummbar can talk more about this than I can (he pointed me to Perrin 10mm tanks a while back) but no...4 Tiger tanks will not fit in a hex.
I haven't put my Tigers together yet, or painted them, but I would guess you might even have trouble fitting three Tigers in a hex. When I get my tanks off the assembly line and onto the battle field, I'm going to use 1 Tiger with the M44 tanks to show elite units. As the unit gets hit, I'll remove the M44 tanks until the Tiger is the only one left.
I will say that they look really cool and add a lot to the game!
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Brummbar44

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Fri, 05 September 2008 16:32

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Ramussen is right, you would actually be hard pressed getting 3 of the Tigers into the hex. They sure look cool though, there is no doubt what they are on the field.
I did a demo of the game once and used a Tiger. Just one for the hex and to show how many 'hits' it could take, I put a few small markers with it.
I even developed some special rules for it so that I could get by using just 2 in the hex which fit well.
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eric

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Fri, 05 September 2008 20:52

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I confirm, 2 is the most you can (reasonably) hope to fit in one hex, unless you'd want to stack them up
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Brummbar44

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Fri, 05 September 2008 22:28

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| eric wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 11:52 | I confirm, 2 is the most you can (reasonably) hope to fit in one hex, unless you'd want to stack them up
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Eric can confirm how many Tigers can reasonably fit in a hex....hmmm...that means...
Eric has Tigers!!
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rasmussen81

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Fri, 05 September 2008 23:02

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| eric wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 11:52 | I confirm, 2 is the most you can (reasonably) hope to fit in one hex, unless you'd want to stack them up
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And I think I just heard an announcement for armor stacking devices! The mysterious Equipment Pack is starting to sound more interesting than I expected.
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eric

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Sat, 06 September 2008 00:10

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You guys have too much imagination... We're not even quite sure yet what form, if any, an Equipment pack would take - though we do have a pretty good idea about what type of pieces might get put into it, if one was ever released
Don't get too excited though. This would be some ways off from today, as we already have plenty on our plates for now.
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Wrecker

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Sat, 06 September 2008 00:26

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| rasmussen81 wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 14:02 |
| eric wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 11:52 | I confirm, 2 is the most you can (reasonably) hope to fit in one hex, unless you'd want to stack them up
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And I think I just heard an announcement for armor stacking devices! The mysterious Equipment Pack is starting to sound more interesting than I expected.
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Although joking I'm sure, this is probably why DOW hates to say too much....I've already seen someone post this info on another thread (hopefully joking as well).
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rasmussen81

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Sat, 06 September 2008 00:40

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| Wrecker wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 15:26 |
| rasmussen81 wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 14:02 |
| eric wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 11:52 | I confirm, 2 is the most you can (reasonably) hope to fit in one hex, unless you'd want to stack them up
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And I think I just heard an announcement for armor stacking devices! The mysterious Equipment Pack is starting to sound more interesting than I expected.
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Although joking I'm sure, this is probably why DOW hates to say too much....I've already seen someone post this info on another thread (hopefully joking as well).
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Yes. I was totally joking!! Do not quote me about the tank stacking device! Wrecker...could you make sure the other thread is set straight?
Although, if the idea really appeals, you could design your own. I'm not sure why someone would want to do that...flying tanks isn't much of an addition to M44!
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Achtung Panzer

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Sniper
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Zasdert Ultun

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Thu, 09 October 2008 01:34

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Apparently in one week...
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50th

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Sun, 12 October 2008 22:39

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Where has Roobarb been lately? I have been watching for him to chime in on this subject. I liked the new box artwork though (the one with roobarb's avatar). How about it Roob, are you watching?
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silentshadow

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Sun, 12 October 2008 22:49

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I wouldn't blame Roob if he flew the coop.
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50th

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Re:Another plea for the British as expansion 6
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Sun, 12 October 2008 23:26

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Hey I think Randwulf was right! I've been looking at pictures of PIATs and they do not show a blast shield. Here is a PIAT:
[img]http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg214/ronh51/piat.jpg[/img]
although a Panzerschreck has a blast shield about half way down the tube. What do you think?
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