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Forum: Discussion - English
 Topic: Abusive player, online game, intervention
rasmussen81
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Re:Abusive player, online game, intervention Fri, 24 October 2014 04:27
If you click on the link at the bottom of my posts, you'll be able to report the abuse. And please report the abuse!

The online community is generally very good but those bad apples somehow manage to get in sometimes. I hope you're enjoying the game otherwise. Smile
      
Forum: Les Aventuriers du Rail - Jeu de société - Français
 Topic: horaire et resultat nc 2014
Elric - Sancerre
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Re:horaire et resultat nc 2014 Fri, 24 October 2014 00:32
[R7] (ATN) menno vs (RED) Elric - Sancerre ... dimanche 26, 21:00 CET.
      
 Topic: NC 2014 - La gazette des reds
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Re:NC 2014 - La gazette des reds Fri, 24 October 2014 00:23
Merci Xav pour les captures d'écran.

Je gagne 4:2 contre ATN ATLeague, avec de belles parties...

La première, avec le start, je garde mon combo de 3: Cal-Pho, SSM-OC et Den-ElP et ça se passe très bien contre son Port-Nash+Den-Pit. 127-112 Smile

La deuxième, je garde Sea-LA+Van-SFe (rejet Den-Pit), et il me cantonne bien à l'ouest avec son Win-Hou+Dul-ElP. Je pioche pas (1 seul ticket sur ma route, et je peux gagner ou egaliser si il a un combo avec le 4). Je perds 112-117 en faisant le max. Sad

La troisième, ca devient très intéressant. Je prends Van-Mon et Cal-SLC (rejet Port-Pho), mais trouve vraiment des couleurs de daube: 2 locos, 8 bleus,... pénurie de orange, blancs et peu de jaunes. Heureusement, il tente son bloc sur Sea-NY et pas Van-Mon. Et j'arrache en surpiochant le chemin... 105-100 contre son Wi-LR+SSM-Nash Smile

La quatrième est celle ou je mange un peu la feuille, car je suis pété de locos. Dul-Hou+Den-Pit (rejet Bo_Mi). Il prend les 6 oranges, je suis pété de rose. Je prévois le 4+6 et tente de le gener avec SSM-Dul, mais il prépare sa boucle sur les 5 rouges pour une belle ligne rapide. J'aurais du lacher mes locos sur ce tronçon, mais je rate ensuite un obj. Bref, je la foire, je trouve pas la bonne alternative... Je tire même LA-Chi mais insuffisant... 105:114 Sad

La cinquième, je choisis de prendre un triple combo Chi-SFe+Por-Pho+Dul-ElP. Je prends les 6 oranges/4 verts pendant qu'il prend 6 incolores (bleus) 6 blancs. Quand il pose le 3 Elp-Pho, annonçant ses obj (Cal-Pho+SSM-OC), je l'attend au coin du bois sur 5jaunes/4rouges. Il passe avec ses locos, mais je le ralentis bien en points. Et ça me donne le temps de surpiocher une loco pour le 6 bleus. 118-115, bon choix! Smile

La 6eme, sur la lancée, sur son start, je prends encore un triple combo pas forcément évident: La-Chi+Sea-LA+Por-Pho. J'attaque 6 oranges, lui 6 incolores, et quand il pose les 6 blancs, je fais bien de griller mes 2 seules locos sur les 6 jaunes. Puis j'ai une descente par les 6 bleus, et j'arrive a choper le 6 noirs à l'arrache. Lui tentant de finir vite sans faire son 2eme ticket. 129:109 Ouf!!! Very Happy

Bravo a Eric pour la belle bubulle contre Tyrana!
ET TA TA TAM SYSY pour continuer ce sans faute du jour.


[Updated on: Fri, 24 October 2014 00:30]

      
Sysyphus - Pommard
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Re:NC 2014 - La gazette des reds Fri, 24 October 2014 04:02
Sysy vs Koel Player : 4 -2

Partie 1 : Sea Ny Hel La vs Sea La Van Fe : 7 locos
Sans jaune, j'ouvre avec le 6 orange. Il prend 6 jaunes.
J'assure Cal pour éviter le piège et j'enchaine au nord. Bien m'en a pris. Je prends la route tranquille.

1-0 sur mon start.

Partie 2 : Hel La La Mia vs La Chi Cal Slc 2 locos
Je prends 6 noirs assez tôt, mais je me bats avec 2 locos seulement et je dois prendre tous mes rouges et verts open.
Il ouvre 3 La SF, moi 3 à Helena et 6 jaunes. Aie, j'ai pas de blanc, et ma seule chance sera de passer par Vegas. Il ferme tout, blindé de locos. Je laisse tomber Hel La.
Je connecte La Mia pendant qu'il fait ses tickets avec seulement le 6 orange.
Il lui reste 5 cartes, il peut me tuer la route dans 99% des cas et ses tickets sont évidents. Je décide de prendre un 11ème jaune pour en reposer sur les gris et je trouve un 12ème fermé.
Avec 25 points d'avance sur le plateau, je l'emporte de 3 points malgré le ticket mort et ses 33 points avec la route.

Partie 3 : La Ny Port Nash vs La Chi Den paso 3 locos
Objectifs lents sur mon start. Encore 2 locos, mais j'arrive à prendre les noirs assez tôt. Il ouvre oranges et 4 verts, 3 à La puis 5 jaunes. J'ai 1 bleu seulement.
Je complète mes tickets via Dallas.
Là il m'explique que j'ai la chance côté tickets...
Je fais bien d'abandonner la route puisqu'il finit en premier sur mon start. Il nepioche pas et ca passe.

Partie 4 : Port Nash Dallas Ny vs Dul Hou Dul Paso : 2 ou 3 locos
Même combo que la précédente, en moins bien,sans le start mais toujours avec 3 locos.
J'ouvre 6 noirs encore, il prend 5 jaunes avec deux locos. J'assure Dallas étant blindé de verts ca passera. Il enchaîne 6 oranges, 4 locos sur les verts pendant que je joue 4 rouges puis 3 à Nash, à SF et 2 à ny.
J'ai à peine le temps de finir mes tickets qu'il termine avec 9 rouges et la super route au milieu.
Il gagne de 10 points au final mais vient quand même se plaindre : pas de verts, pas de noirs. Avec 6 orange, 9 rouges, le 6 gris; 9/10 locos et deux bons tickets au centre, il y a de quoi pleurer.

Partie 5 : Hel La Ny Atl vs La Chi La Ny : 2 locos

Encore deux locos pour moi. Je prends 6 jaunes, il répond 6 oranges et 4 verts. Je prends les 6 noirs avec mes locos. Je l'empêche de jouer 6 violets. Je peux connecter par Vegas, et prend une loco open pour poser 6 verts. Mais comme je le sens blindé de loco, je pose 5 rouges avec de connecter le 2 à Duluth.
Obligé d'abandonner la route, je pioche et je trouve Sea La mais c'est loin du compte malgré 95 points sur le plateau.

Partie 6 : Van Mon Den Pitt vs Win Lr Win Hou : 6 locos
J'ai 6 locos ce coup-ci contre le start. Mais 1 noir et 2 violets. S'il a de l'est je suis mort.

Je prends 6 orange puis 4 verts. Je prends des noirs et blancs open pour le faire craquer au sud. Il prend 5 blancs et 6 noirs. Ca fait du bien. Je prends 6 jaunes, 6 gris et 6 blancs. Les noirs et les 6 violets n'apparaitront jamais et je finis de connecter à l'arrache mais je reste devant au tableau d'affichage. Je lance malgré tout le dernier tour sur son start et ca passe.

J'ai pris peu de plaisir au final avec une bonne main en partie 1, 1 main moyenne à la partie 3, et 3 mains pourries à la partie 2, 4, 5. Bonne main encore pour finir, mais pas non plus la panacée.
Et tout ca pour me dire que j'étais le "Ticket King de la soirée". Confused Bref, l'essentiel est assuré.

Sacrée Soirée les REDOUXXXXXX

[Updated on: Fri, 24 October 2014 12:55]

      
 Topic: NC 2014 - Ta ka poster ici
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Re:NC 2014 - Ta ka poster ici Fri, 24 October 2014 07:45
3-3 pour moi contre DIZZ hier soir.
3 heures de TTR fin du match à 0h00....
Je mène 2-0 puis je merde sur une partie et je fini la rencontre avec le 2x17 dans les mains....et je perds pour un tirage de trop!

Un peu vénère comme on dit....

CU
      
Forum: Mémoire 44 - Français
 Topic: Insolite. Une vidéo exceptionnelle tournée au Mans en septembre 1944
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Re:Insolite. Une vidéo exceptionnelle tournée au Mans en septembre 1944 Fri, 24 October 2014 14:59
Ouais ben yen a plein qui picolent pendant que les autres bossent...
Que font les MP ? Laughing

[Updated on: Fri, 24 October 2014 15:00]

      
 Topic: Fury
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Re:Fury Fri, 24 October 2014 10:00
J'y vais lundi, obligé y a des tanks.
      
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Re:Fury Fri, 24 October 2014 10:48
je suis allé Mercredi....

tres bon . de tres bonnes scènes de combats. bien Hard ( réaliste quoi) à la Soldat Ryan.
on est assez tendu dans son siège par moment , on est comme coincé avec eux dans le Sherman. la meilleure scène face au Tigre bien sur....


les défauts : une fin prévisible à la Hollywood... et à la Rambo (invincibles et dégomment 300 nazis à eux 5) et les tirs de chars dans certaines scènes qui font penser à Star wars.....



[Updated on: Fri, 24 October 2014 10:53]

      
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Re:Fury Fri, 24 October 2014 10:49
J espere y aller la semaine prochaine. La bande annonce accroche bien et j espere ne pas etre deçu par ce film qui en promet
      
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Re:Fury Fri, 24 October 2014 15:03
JP Von Këvy écrit le Fri, 24 October 2014 10:48


les défauts : une fin prévisible à la Hollywood... et à la Rambo (invincibles et dégomment 300 nazis à eux 5) et les tirs de chars dans certaines scènes qui font penser à Star wars.....



Ben oui... C'est Hollywood, quoi. Rien de neuf sous la mitraille de ce côté là. Dommage.
      
Forum: Memoir '44 Online - Français
 Topic: Campagne jour J scénario, combat et résultat
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Re:Campagne jour J scénario, combat et résultat Fri, 24 October 2014 06:59
aie! je pensais que c'était clair pour tous! la dernière fois j'ai laissé 2 semaines pour que tout le monde arrive a se rencontrer a cause des retardataires.j'ai supprimé des scénarii justement pour ne pas s'étaler trop dans le temps et que la campagne ne s'éternise pas trop non plus. bon! c'est ma faute je n'ai pas donné de date de fin je le ferais pour le 3 eme scénario donc je laisse jusqu'au dimanche d’après.



fin des rencontres du second tour le 2 novembre
      
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Re:Campagne jour J scénario, combat et résultat Fri, 24 October 2014 08:03
Oui je se sera en début de semaine prochaine.

Gari dommage que tu es supprimé des maps, une rencontre sur 15 jrs ça laisse du temps... Smile
      
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Re:Campagne jour J scénario, combat et résultat Fri, 24 October 2014 08:15
Yves Le Burgond écrit le Fri, 24 October 2014 08:03

Oui je se sera en début de semaine prochaine.

Gari dommage que tu es supprimé des maps, une rencontre sur 15 jrs ça laisse du temps... Smile


A la base c'était une map par semaine Wink
Il a été proposé à Gari de couper la campagne en deux pour éviter d'avoir une campagne qui tire en longueur et de ce retrouver avec d'autre tournoi en même temps (meta, ww44, Wolf,...)

      
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Re:Campagne jour J scénario, combat et résultat Fri, 24 October 2014 10:32
Mon adversaire étant en congé cette semaine, nous nous rencontrerons mercredi prochain.

Merci pour cette rallonge.
      
 Topic: WW44#9 : WWZ 5 Les Américains sautent sur Gibraltar
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Re:WW44#9 : WWZ 5 Les Américains sautent sur Gibraltar Fri, 24 October 2014 02:09
Vercingetorix1302 versus Stefdeb :

Aller :
Vercingetorix1302 Alliés vs Stefdeb Axe 8-5 / 30-21 figs/ 1-0 objectifs

http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44-online/en/battle/?id=43 709137

Retour :
Vercingetorix1302 Axe vs Stefdeb Alliés 8-6 / 32-26 figs/ 0-0 objectifs

http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44-online/en/battle/?id=43 709686


Total :
Vercingetorix1302 versus Stefdeb 16-11 /62-47 figs/ 1-0 objectifs

Une grande merci à Stefdeb pour deux batailles dur sur un scenario incroyable!
Merci a Zivago pour des scenario originale et "fun" de jouer!
      
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Re:WW44#9 : WWZ 5 Les Américains sautent sur Gibraltar Fri, 24 October 2014 15:32
Yes Endicott Laughing Laughing Laughing
      
Forum: T2R Competitive Play - English
 Topic: [TTR-Online new organization] : NOW HIRING !
Sysyphus - Pommard
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Re:[TTR-Online new organization] : NOW HIRING ! Fri, 24 October 2014 00:44
OK, thanks for taking a job !

Dea will handle the review of the rules by herself.
I'll be in charge of the rankings while Drake and Maximour try to automate all of this.

We have some TD jobs open.

Tournament Directors:

b. SPWC/EMC/AMC/SMC TD
The job is open if someone is interested.
It's mostly about creating seeding and brackets.
Basic communication to make sure the deadlines are respected but once it is started, it is pretty low maintenance.
I can help the new TD if needed.

c. Overall Championship manager
For someone interested in updating the rankings all through the year and in promoting it. Best if that person is part of the tournament workgroup.

[Updated on: Fri, 24 October 2014 01:45]

      
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Re:[TTR-Online new organization] : NOW HIRING ! Fri, 24 October 2014 01:37
Sysyphus - Pommard wrote on Fri, 24 October 2014 00:44

OK, thanks for taking a job !

Dea will handle the review of the rules by herself.
I'll be in charge of the rankings while Drake and Maximour try to automate all of this.

We have some TD jobs open.

Tournament Directors:

a. Multi Asia TD





Why not? I lost QF entry in Paris for one point in Multi Asia (to Vigulisam). Perhaps is in my destiny. If it's ok for you, I could do.

Marco
      
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Re:[TTR-Online new organization] : NOW HIRING ! Fri, 24 October 2014 01:44
Ok sounds good ! Grazie Marco !

Only SPWC/EMC/SMC/AMC TD is still open.
We can break the directing into 2 pieces (2 + 2) if needed.

[Updated on: Fri, 24 October 2014 01:46]

      
 Topic: NC 2014 - Group B: schedule & results
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Re:NC 2014 - Group B: schedule & results Fri, 24 October 2014 00:30
[R7] (ATN) menno vs (RED) Elric - Sancerre

... will take place Sunday 26th, 21:00 CET (4pm EDT).
      
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Re:NC 2014 - Group B: schedule & results Fri, 24 October 2014 03:25
Koel Player vs Sysy : 2 - 4
      
 Topic: [TTR-online new organization] : let's get bigger !
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Re:[TTR-online new organization] : let's get bigger ! Fri, 24 October 2014 11:14
It would be nice to see the number of players grow, but from my point of view the problem of introducing of new players to the game is NOT only because of DoW, but also because of the community

As a player, who started playing again this year, I can tell you that it is not that easy to become a part of the community as you are saying in your post.
It was a very hard and frustrating way for me to become part of the community and to be accepted there.
I made many bad experiences with the community at the beginning, because I was a new player with 1600+ points and only a few hundred games. JUST because I was new I experienced many players, who could not accept this and kicked/banned/insulted me.
The community is really paranoid of cheating and reppellent to new players.

For sure, the community is a really nice one if you are already part of it and for sure I do not speak about all players, but from the outside it sometimes does not look like this.

I just want to give my experience as a critical approach to you.
      
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Re:[TTR-online new organization] : let's get bigger ! Fri, 24 October 2014 12:10
TIC benny wrote on Fri, 24 October 2014 11:14

It would be nice to see the number of players grow, but from my point of view the problem of introducing of new players to the game is NOT only because of DoW, but also because of the community

As a player, who started playing again this year, I can tell you that it is not that easy to become a part of the community as you are saying in your post.
It was a very hard and frustrating way for me to become part of the community and to be accepted there.
I made many bad experiences with the community at the beginning, because I was a new player with 1600+ points and only a few hundred games. JUST because I was new I experienced many players, who could not accept this and kicked/banned/insulted me.
The community is really paranoid of cheating and reppellent to new players.

For sure, the community is a really nice one if you are already part of it and for sure I do not speak about all players, but from the outside it sometimes does not look like this.

I just want to give my experience as a critical approach to you.



we might think of organizing tournaments for the rank: 1400-1550 / 1600
it is important that they have played at least 200-300 games online to avoid players who then drop out.
need an organizer.
      
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Re:[TTR-online new organization] : let's get bigger ! Fri, 24 October 2014 13:00
TIC benny wrote on Fri, 24 October 2014 11:14

It would be nice to see the number of players grow, but from my point of view the problem of introducing of new players to the game is NOT only because of DoW, but also because of the community

As a player, who started playing again this year, I can tell you that it is not that easy to become a part of the community as you are saying in your post.
It was a very hard and frustrating way for me to become part of the community and to be accepted there.
I made many bad experiences with the community at the beginning, because I was a new player with 1600+ points and only a few hundred games. JUST because I was new I experienced many players, who could not accept this and kicked/banned/insulted me.
The community is really paranoid of cheating and reppellent to new players.

For sure, the community is a really nice one if you are already part of it and for sure I do not speak about all players, but from the outside it sometimes does not look like this.

I just want to give my experience as a critical approach to you.



I agree that the feeling from outside can be this. The trouble is that we had a lot of trouble with cheating and "new" accounts in the past (also recent past), so several players are still burned by what happened.

We did a lot of work to improve the situation and now thigs are smoother. Everyone can read the the posts of this forum in period 2008-2010 for a comparison.

Now, I agree with Dandee. We need some type competition to make new players known and to teach them the main house rules of the community.
      
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Re:[TTR-online new organization] : let's get bigger ! Fri, 24 October 2014 14:45
Thanks Benny for your post.
All the points you made certainly deserve some attention.

1. Wary community
Like Qorlas mentioned, TTR online in 2010 was almost killed by distrust, multiple cheating cases and bad behaviors. It almost became a war zone. So did the Gang of Four community, which disappeared in the end for not being able to take care of themselves.
Certain players felt like they could do everything, anonymously behind their screen-name.

When we took over the organization of the main events in 2011, turnouts were very low. We had no choice but to deal with cheaters, score-boosters, second-accounts and bullies to restore peace and to bring back the disappointed players. (in other words, to clean up the community).
It has taken quite some fights in the forum with players who felt untouchable (behind their screen-name), but after 4 years, I can finally say that we organize quality tournaments, with a quality level-of-play and quality players.
It will never be perfect because of the virtual component, but we sincerely try to make it better year after year.

2. Behaviors
Let's be clear on one point : insults are unacceptable in any case whether you are a 1100+ or a 1600+ player. I encourage players to report players through this link :
http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/contact/digital-t2r/
We have 0 power of moderation, we can not do anything about it. We can just work on prevention, but it has a limited effectiveness for the "biggest cases".

About being kicked :
I don't want to try to justify it, but multiple-account owners have fueled the distrust. We try to explain and promote the "single-account rule" although some players are happily using 2/3/4/5 (or more) accounts for various reasons.
Online games and a virtual world require players to earn trust. Asking to be trusted while hiding behind a screen-name is too easy.
If nobody knows you name after 3 years, if nobody has met you or if nobody has some kind of personal relationship online (facebook, email, twitter) and/or if you own multiple-accounts, if nobody has heard your voice or seen your face on Skype, you will only fuel the distrust and will be responsible for it.

You do not go on a date with someone you know nothing about nor with a shady person (or you're a fool).

3. Integration
We, as a community, definitely have to be better at integrating players. I designed etiquette standards a while ago Here but it is now a dead thread among others.
Some practices are hard to get rid of. They were necessary in the past for the reasons explained above but they are now counterpoductive. (like the warning thread)

What can we do about it ?
a. Be involved in the community's organization. The more players are involved, the bigger the impact, If you care a bit about the online game, come contribute.

b. About DoW's role :
They probably want us to run a smooth community and be responsible for it. But they don't give us any tools to do so.
I wish we could have the power of moderating the forum ourselves, to monitor the rankings and take care of them. That we could promote our tournaments and etiquette rules better.
They publish and highlight ELO rankings, but nobody monitors them...

c. Compare with Memoir 44 online ?
Memoir 44 has arguably way less behavior issues than us. It is explained by the fact that online players are known as offline players. Developing offline games hands-in-hands with the online community would definitely reduce the mistrust.
Most regular players are known by their full name.
One member of DoW's staff is fully involved in their tournaments. We do not have any permanent contact with DoW (not that we have never tried to establish one Rolling Eyes ).
And we are also an international community, made of 25+ nationalities. Cultural differences do not go well through an online screen.

d. Solutions
It would helpful to identify serious tournament players in some ways.
Serious tournament players : displaying sportsmanship, respecting etiquette rules, finishing tournaments they were part of, that do not own several accounts could be "certified" by the community and DoW.

4Conclusion
This is why we need to get bigger, to promote the online game better and improve all of its aspects. Changing mentalities takes some time, but we are ultimately on the right path.
And again, only a work hands-in-hands with DoW would greatly impact positive behaviors. We need the tools to act in a positive way.

[Updated on: Fri, 24 October 2014 15:27]

      
 Topic: NC 2014 - Group A: schedule & results
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Re:NC 2014 - Group A: schedule & results Fri, 24 October 2014 00:07
RESULT ROUND 6

taka familiesm 3:3 CIA dizz


Very tough match for me but just enough for a tie, it seems. Thanks for the match familie and good luck in your next round.

P.S. I was looking for my schedule post but it seems I posted it in the wrong thread. Whoops! Shocked

[Updated on: Fri, 24 October 2014 00:23]

      
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Re:NC 2014 - Group A: schedule & results Fri, 24 October 2014 00:35
Round 5

TuS sookie - ITY tempest0 3-3


TUS - ITY
3,5 - 0,5
      
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Re:NC 2014 - Group A: schedule & results Fri, 24 October 2014 00:55
Thank you soo much Caster !!! Its my Pleasure to play with u !!!
Good bye Cool
      
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Re:NC 2014 - Group A: schedule & results Fri, 24 October 2014 15:03
ITY SuperPello vs HFP cannonade
25 oct at 11.00 cest
      
 Topic: NC 2014 - Group C: schedule & results
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Re:NC 2014 - Group C: schedule & results Fri, 24 October 2014 15:37
AGT vs RUS

Schachus vs Vigulisam

Tomorrow(Sa) 20.00 CEST