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Forum: T2R Competitive Play - English
 Topic: Tickipedia and TELO : VOLUNTEER NOW !
TIC benny
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Re:Tickipedia and TELO : VOLUNTEER NOW ! Sun, 21 September 2014 11:34
I will start to make the team pages of the NC 2014.
      
 Topic: NC 2014 - Group C: schedule & results
RUS Sivorro
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Re:NC 2014 - Group C: schedule & results Sun, 21 September 2014 11:28
Sounds like Sivorro and Ameteir have scheduled double NC debut match.

Tonight about 22-00 cest.
      
LMT Hecki
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Re:NC 2014 - Group C: schedule & results Sun, 21 September 2014 16:39
This was really an intresting Show with some very close matches:

SOJA maunaloa - LMT Hecki 2:4

92 - 93*
*121 - 108
96 - 134*
*52 - 112
132 - 120*
*122 - 123
      
 Topic: Multi tournaments : What tournaments in 2015 ?
RUS Sivorro
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Re:Multi tournaments : What tournaments in 2015 ? Sun, 21 September 2014 01:08
Alex said it shorter.
I tried to say the same.
I like Asia and have it on the board.
      
onyx puffin MAD
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Re:Multi tournaments : What tournaments in 2015 ? Sun, 21 September 2014 05:28
Sysyphus - Pommard wrote on Sat, 20 September 2014 16:25



I felt like the TTR World Championship this year has attracted more players than the 2010 edition. Let's consider that and let's start experimenting online formats.
Also, it seems like more and more multi asia have been played.
I have several offers for next year, please feel free to share your feelings.



Do you think the format success may be due to Multi-games played at one time. So in essence people who signed up, signed up for a date/weekend to play?
Might that be a chance to change format and address the need to be more compact?

Pick one month for "sponsors" who will organize their mutli tournament on a certain day/days of the play-in Multi tournaments. In essence, people are signing up for a time-frame, and it can all be done in one month.
(I liken it to seeing US tourney options for World in Charlotte, in Boston and Indianapolis, all on different weekends. I have to get to one of those sites on their date to play.
As an online game, place does not matter, but we could have people commit to that 2 day tournament date.) (And it is not like the Paris event is going to allow a qualifying winner, to come some other week, yet we do here. So make the dates known of the championship)

[Updated on: Sun, 21 September 2014 05:32]

      
Sysyphus - Pommard
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Re:Multi tournaments : What tournaments in 2015 ? Sun, 21 September 2014 06:11
To make it faster, it'd be good to get rid of those "last chance" stages.
To make it more compact, it would maybe better to plan on single events only to ease the schedule.
I think that we should settle for groups of 5 only no matter what.

Ex : Multi US tournament, 50 participants.

First round : Play 3 single events with different players. Schedule published for all single-events on Day 1. 10 groups of 5, 3 single events for each = 30 single events.
Let's say 5 weeks to complete that stage.
Add up all the points. Top 15 overall points advance to semis.

2 single events in semis. Top 5 overall points advance.

Final: 1 single event.

It should be wrapped up in 2 months/2 months and half.Instead of 7 months currently for MPWC and MEMC combined, we could have 5 months of MPWC and MEMC and 2 extra months of multi asia. We could gather the top 5 overall for an all map final.

That gives more games for everybody to play, with less communication constraints. No more last chance stages either.

Problem of signing up for a particular date just makes a tournament last too long.

[Updated on: Sun, 21 September 2014 06:23]

      
Knock - Chiroubles
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Re:Multi tournaments : What tournaments in 2015 ? Sun, 21 September 2014 11:03
I will stop playing multi-tournament with current formula, too hard scheduling, I'm fed up of asking and waiting answers and re-asking, fed up of waiting in the lobby for nothing...

So groups of 5 with single event (5 4ers, 3 5ers) seems good to me.
(And when a date is scheduled, if a player doesn't appear without warning he's out of the event.)

3 events with different players, 2 weeks to schedule each event (each players have 3 days to post his avaibilities in the forum).
Or all groups known in advance and 5 or 6 weeks to schedule, but I think it will be more difficult to schedule 3 different events in the same time with 12 different players !

One tournament for each map. So 3 tournaments.
      
HFP Morientes ZL
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Re:Multi tournaments : What tournaments in 2015 ? Sun, 21 September 2014 11:32
As for me better is :
1.Multi USA in winter( same as last year)
2. Multi EU in summer + september (same as last year)
3. Multi Asia in summer+ september ( same as multi EU)

or

2015 - no EU
2016- no asia
2017 no eu...

I don't like mix tournament.
Single tornamens we have more than 50 platers but in AAT was only 18 this year.
      
TuS yaelka
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Re:Multi tournaments : What tournaments in 2015 ? Sun, 21 September 2014 15:08
Knock - Chiroubles schrieb am Sun, 21 September 2014 11:03

...

So groups of 5 with single event (5 4ers, 3 5ers) seems good to me.
(And when a date is scheduled, if a player doesn't appear without warning he's out of the event.)

...




... was part of my idea as well. ... then 2 or 3 best of each group advance to next round .... and again build groups of 5 with one single event as Knock described .... up to final

I prefer 3 single events to mixed ones
      
AAA_dea1
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Re:Multi tournaments : What tournaments in 2015 ? Sun, 21 September 2014 16:30
Multis are nice and Asia would be nice, too.

The scheduling is hell and we need to do something about that.
If we can improve the scheduling issue it should be possible to get the Multi tournaments done within a month (instead of currently 3 and more), so that's how to find space for Asia in addition.

Details how I'd see that work:
Qualifying rounds as one single session (see above).
TD announces 3(or more - depending on anticipated # of entries) different playing dates/times with the registration. When you sign in you state on which of these dates/times you are able to play (if none of them suits you, you're out of luck this time - there'll be another tournament soon ... or suggest "your perfect date" and see if 4 more players agree to that - but succeed before registration ends or forget it).

5 5ers + 4 4ers per player.
Groups of 5 players (ideal) or 6 (covers all possible numbers of entries if at least 20 participants).
With 5: Play 5 5ers and 5 4ers (everyone sitting out once) - 10 games, done in approx. 3 hours, maybe a little more.
With 6: 6 5ers (everyone sitting once), 6 4ers (everyone sitting twice) - ok, 12 games/4 hours, still OK in one go I'd say.

Why not less (like suggested above)? We need to find something that works with all numbers of entries, so we have to cover 5+6 player groups giving everyone the same amount of games played.

[Updated on: Sun, 21 September 2014 16:35]

      
LMT Hecki
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Re:Multi tournaments : What tournaments in 2015 ? Sun, 21 September 2014 17:06
I vote for offer A.
      
Sysyphus - Pommard
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Re:Multi tournaments : What tournaments in 2015 ? Sun, 21 September 2014 17:53
I think we need to define what a multi tournament is.

Is it a "meeting" of players a la Days of Wonders with only single events ?
Or is it a "tournament" which would at least require 2/3 single events in the Round Robin to determine who the best players are?
The difference between a meeting and a tournament is for me the same as in between a QT and in a 6-game match.

If we agree that a tournament (with 35+ players) can not last more than 10 weeks -5 week for a 3-single event Round Robin and 5 weeks for 2 single event semis and a single event finale- we would not only shorten the length of the tournament but also strengthen the competition.


If we let players choose their time, then we let players choose their groups too. It is probably better to make yourself available for European night weekdays and/or American nights and/or European weekends.

[Updated on: Sun, 21 September 2014 17:55]

      
 Topic: NC 2014 - Group B: schedule & results
TIC Beka
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Re:NC 2014 - Group B: schedule & results Sun, 21 September 2014 00:39
Round Robin 2
Full Schedule now:

http://www.1stmove.de/download/flaggen/usa.gif - http://www.1stmove.de/download/flaggen/germany.gif
AT - TIC
AT MadManMark  - TIC 335d Touring : Sep, 21st 18:00 CEST
AT KoelPlayer  - TIC wasdenn :      Sep, 22nd 14:00 CEST
AT Solinsf     - TIC Beka :         Sep, 22nd 21:00 CEST 
AT bbandccrock - TIC U 31 :         Sep, 21st 15:30 CEST


      
AT bbandccrock
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January 2007
Re:NC 2014 - Group B: schedule & results Sun, 21 September 2014 16:45
AT bbandccrock VS TIC U 31 - 4-2

107-110 TIC U 31 start
128-107
112-111
121-98
97-109
102-88
      
OmG Schaffnerlos
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November 2005
Re:NC 2014 - Group B: schedule & results Sun, 21 September 2014 19:16
SMP Jac_ 3 - 3 OmG Patrick09

*115 - 101
+LA/NY -LA/Mia +Sea/NY (found) vs +NY/Atl +Dul/Hou
120 - 115*
+Den/Pit +Por/Nas vs +Sea/NY +Cal/SLC
*76 - 98
+LA/NY -Dal/NY +Win/LR (found) vs +Den/Pit +Kan/Hou
47 - 89*
-Sea/NY -Sea/LA vs -Por/Pho -Kan/Hou
*111 - 121
+SSM/Okl +Sea/LA vs +Van/Mon +Den/Pit
120 - 101*
+Cal/Pho +Dl/ElP vs +Tor/Mia +Dal/NY
      
 Topic: NC 2014 - Group A: schedule & results
Taka Maf
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Re:NC 2014 - Group A: schedule & results Sun, 21 September 2014 20:10
Kotjara zl vs Taka Maf

1 - 5

      
ipipip34 - Faugères
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Re:NC 2014 - Group A: schedule & results Sun, 21 September 2014 20:40
Kotjara ZL vs ipipip34 - Faugeres

Tuesday Sept 23st, 19.00 Cest