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NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Mon, 13 August 2012 18:56
Hi there !

Considering the success of last year's NC which was pretty smooth to organize, it is time to launch officially NC 2012 for its 8th edition !

Here are the rules !

The rules can be updated by the board later on.

Here's the NC homepage on tickipedia.

http://www.tickipedia.net/wiki/Nations_Cup

I guess Truckerteller will be our TD again !


NC RULES 2012


1. NC is a competition for National teams

2. Players who live, study or work in country A and have nationality B may play for either A or B.

3. Players with a double nationality may choose for which country they play.

4. Players to whom 2. and 3. applies have to decide in the preregistration phase for one nationality

5. A team formed by players working for DoW may be transnational.

6. Guests are not allowed to play. Players that are not registered players at the end of registration phase cannot play. Players are not allowed to change their names during the tournament.

7. Base for national/transnational teams is a player/country list down to rank 500 posted 6 weeks before the end of the registration phase

8. Players of the same nationality (or chosen nationality as in 2./3.) have to play together

9. Any country that has 4 or more players listed in the player/country list HAS to try to form their own national team. No team can reject a player of the same nationality unless they register a full team. If they fail to get 4 players together - see 11.
9.1 several teams per country are allowed.

10. No player that rejects to play for his nation can play for any other team.

11. Players that are not able to form a full team under these conditions may join with other nationalities regarding 8.

12. Players that are overhangs of registered nations may join transnational teams as in 11 regarding rule 8. In special cases a NC board may allow these players upon request to join a registered nations team (language problems i.e.). No national team that has declared itself 'complete' (= has rejected one or more players of their own country) may ever be joined by a player from a different country. There will be a "Split registration" in two phases, part one for the national teams, part two for the TN Teams and overhangs. In phase one only national teams can register. Two weeks before the start of the NC phase two will be opened to leave the remaining players possibility to form transnational teams regarding the rules.



13. Organisation of play

13.1. Explanation
Tournament > Round > Clash > Match > game
Clash = encounter between two teams
Match = encounter between two players
Round robin: if a group plays a round robin, each team plays against each other team in that group once.

13.2 Team's rank is decided by the sum of ratings of best 4 players as of Sunday, Sept. 16th, 23:00 CEST.

13.3 Captains
Captains can be either playing or non-playing. The captain acts as the spokesman/woman of the team in the following way:

- He/she registers the team by posting a reply on the REGISTRATIONAL thread;
- The captain sends the TD a PM WEEKLY with the four-player lineup no later than Wednesday, 11:00 PM (GMT) (the week before the start of the next round). If the TD doesn't receive it in time, she/he will use the lineup of the round before;

The players play their games (they can make arrangements by PM) and pass the results through to their captains, all within the time limit.

It is allowed to start arranging and playing a new round right after the TD has posted the pairings for the next round, even if the previous round hasn't been finished.

13.4 Board representatives
Every team nominates a representative for the NC Board when registering. The board representative will represent the teams decissions and wishes in cases of dispute or rule discussions. The team captain may but must not necessarily be team representative.

13.5 Tournament overview
The tournament will comprise 8-12 weeks including a break of a week in between round robin and knockout phase. Below the division in groups and continuation in knockout phase is shown, based on team's rank, with various numbers of teams:


6-10: Full round robin with SF and F. #1 chooses opponent in SF
6: 8 weeks
7: 10 weeks
8: 10 weeks
9: 12 weeks
10: 12 weeks

11-16: Round robin, 2 groups, with QF, SF and F. #1s choose opponent of other group in QF; cannot meet other #1 in SF, cannot meet best classified of own group in SF.
11: (1,4,5,8,9) and (2,3,6,7,10,11), 9 weeks
12: (1,4,5,8,9,12) and (2,3,6,7,10,11), 9 weeks
13: (1,4,5,8,9,12) and (2,3,6,7,10,11,13), 11 weeks
14: (1,4,5,8,9,12) and (2,3,6,7,10,11,13,14), 11 weeks
15: (1,4,5,8,9,12,13) and (2,3,6,7,10,11,14,15), 11 weeks
16: (1,4,5,8,9,12,13,16) and (2,3,6,7,10,11,14,15), 11 weeks

17-22: Round robin, 3 groups, with QF, SF and F.
4 teams advance per group, the group with the best 2nd comer will be renamed to group D, the next groups circular to E and F, then the pairings for first rd KO will be:
1E-bye, 3F-3D, 2D-bye, 2F-4E ---- 1F-bye, 2E-4D, 1D-bye, 3E-4F
best 2nd comer will be determined according to the tiebreaker rules (13.7)
Quarterfinal: 1Evs3F-3D; 2Dvs2F-4E;;; 1Fvs2E-4D; 1Dvs3E-4F
17: (1,6,7,12,13), (2,5,8,11,14,17) and (3,4,9,10,15,16), 9 weeks
18: (1,6,7,12,13,18), (2,5,8,11,14,17) and (3,4,9,10,15,16), 9 weeks
19: (1,6,7,12,13,18), (2,5,8,11,14,17) and (3,4,9,10,15,16,19), 11 weeks
20: (1,6,7,12,13,18), (2,5,8,11,14,17,20) and (3,4,9,10,15,16,19), 11 weeks
21: (1,6,7,12,13,18,19), (2,5,8,11,14,17,20) and (3,4,9,10,15,16,21), 11 weeks

22: (1,6,7,12,13,18,19), (2,5,8,11,14,17,20) and (3,4,9,10,15,16,21,22), 11 weeks

23/24: four groups (1,8,9,16,17,24)(2,7,10,15,18,23)(3,6,11,14,19,22)(4,5,12,13 ,20,21) - groups split according to ELO team rank.

1/8, QF, SF and final (16 teams advance to KO phase)

Each group gets assigned a letter A-D randomly (using toutoune`s suggestion of starting a 4 player game with 1 member of each group and seeing who is the start player - that group becomes Group A, then do it for 3 players to figure out Group B, etc.). Once a letter is assigned then the matchups are fixed.

A1 plays B4 (i.e. Group A 1st place Team play Group B 4th place team)
A2 plays B3
A3 plays B2
A4 plays B1
C1 plays D4
C2 plays D3
C3 plays D2
C4 plays D1

Quarter Finals:
A1/B4 vs. C2/D3 (winner=A)
A2/B3 vs. C1/D4 (winner=B)
A3/B2 vs. C4/D1 (winner=C)
A4/B1 vs. C3/D2 (winner=D)

Semi Finals:
A vs C and B vs D
Finals



13.6 Clash pairings in round robin stage
Pairings by number of teams in a group, team number according to team rank.

5 teams
Round 1: 1-3, 5-2
Round 2: 4-1, 3-5
Round 3: 2-3, 4-5
Round 4: 5-1, 2-4
Round 5: 1-2, 3-4

6 teams
Round 1: 1-4, 2-5, 3-6
Round 2: 5-1, 2-3, 4-6
Round 3: 1-3, 6-2, 4-5
Round 4: 6-1, 2-4, 3-5
Round 5: 1-2, 3-4, 5-6

7 teams
Round 1: 7-1, 3-5, 6-2
Round 2: 1-4, 2-5, 6-7
Round 3: 5-1, 2-3, 4-7
Round 4: 7-2, 4-5, 3-6
Round 5: 1-2, 3-4, 5-6
Round 6: 6-1, 7-3, 2-4
Round 7: 1-3, 5-7, 4-6

8 teams
Round 1: 1-6, 2-5, 3-7, 4-8
Round 2: 1-3, 2-4, 5-8, 6-7
Round 3: 1-7, 2-8, 3-6, 4-5
Round 4: 1-5, 2-6, 3-8, 4-7
Round 5: 1-4, 2-7, 3-5, 6-8
Round 6: 1-8, 2-3, 5-7, 4-6
Round 7: 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 7-8

13.7 Match pairings
Captains choose a lineup per clash. EACH CLASH, THEY ARE FREE TO CHOOSE PLAYERS AND SLOTS THEY PLAY IN.


14. Schedule of play
14.1 Explanation
Once the draw for the next round is posted (on Thursday or Friday in the week preceding that round) the players can play their games (they can make arrangements by PM). The captain must have the results of the match before the end of the week of that round. Example: the second round, of which the draw will be posted not later than Friday, 19th of September, must be finished latest on Sunday the 28th of September.
14.2 Safe exit
Once the schedule of Round Robin is released :
If a team knows in advance that one of their players is not able to play in the time of a certain clash, they can ask for the TD's agreement to have that particular match played before the due time. It is the responsibility of the captain of that team to contact his/her peer to find an arrangement.
Each team, when ready, will send a lineup made of 1 name for that match. The remaining lineup will be sent to the TD at the time scheduled including the score of the match already played.


15.Format of a clash in Round Robin.

15.1 Duration of a match in the Round Robin
A. Number of games per match during round robin
Each match consists of 6 games.
In case of a tied game, each player will receive 0.5 point. Possible results of a match are 6-0; 5,5-0,5; 5-1; 4,5-1,5; 4-2; 3,5-2,5; 3-3.

B. Tiebreaker in Round Robin
To decide upon rank in the round robin, number of clashes won is the first tiebreaker, then the number of matches won, then the number of games won, then the round robin result between the relevant teams.
C. Starter rule
The first game is opened with random start. For subsequent games the starter alternates.


15.2. Format of clash and a match in KO Round
A. Lineups
The captain sends the TD a pm with the four-player lineup and nominates a player for the tie-breaking match (that will be played only if needed).
Players that play the first 4 matches can play the tie-breaking match.
B. Duration of a match
Best-of-seven, i.e. match is over when a player has won 4 games. A tied game doesn't count for the match. Possible results are 4-0, 4-1, 4-2, and 4-3.
C. Starter rule
Odd games are random starting, even games are started by the player that did not start the previous game. If a game is a tie, although it doesn't count for the match in terms of games won, it counts as a game played.
D.To decide upon win in the KO round, number of matches won is the first tie breaker, then result of the tie-breaking match.


16. Anti-Cheating Trust:
- Each player plays with his/her personal account. It is forbidden to have anyone else play NC games with that account. The players rating should reflect his playing strength.
- Each player plays with his/her strongest account (overall).
- Each player plays alone. Any contact with others (other than one's opponent) during the game that has to do with that current game is forbidden.

17. Nature of the games
A. 1v1;
B. US map;
C. Rated;
D. Observable: Hide cards or "buddies only" option is not allowed, but TD can allow the use of the 'hide cards' option on certain clashes if asked by captains who suspect cheating on the other side. Accidentally starting a game which is NOT observable does not have to be replayed. The opening player shall be reminded after that game about the rules. Only if he continues deliberately to start closed the match shall be given as a win to the opposing team.

19. Anti-Bot Trust
In a game between player A and B, if B is replaced by a bot, A waits till B returns and after that the game resumes, no matter what the bot did. Special cases:

19.1. After about 5 minutes (give or take), if B hasn't returned, A leaves the game. B has to make sure the game is resumed within 24 hours. If not, the TD rules:
A. A wins if B hasn't put enough effort in rescheduling the game;
B. The game is annulled if both players express the wish to do so, or if the TD rules that no one can be blamed (if neither of the players could find time, for example);
C. B wins if and only if the TD is convinced that A deliberately procastinated the resuming of the game.

19.2. In case A continues to play against the bot, the game is annulled if A can convince B or the TD that he didn't play on deliberately. Player A can't win the game anymore.

19.3. In case both players are disconnected, the game has to be resumed in 24 hours. If not, the TD rules according to the situation where only B was disconnected. In this case both players are treated equally.

20. Miscellaneous
A. It is not allowed to add players to a team after the start of the tournament unless the TD decides otherwise (mostly in case of emergency). A player can only be registered to one team. This emergency registration has to be according to rules 2./3./6./8./12.
B. In case of a dispute, one of the involved captains sends a PM to the TD with a copy to the other captain. The decision will be under the discretion of the TD. The TD will inform both captains by PM about the decision and post it in the organisational thread if necessary. The TD may request support from the NC board to cover her/his decision.
C. If a team is not able to finish a round, it forfeits all unplayed games and loses therewith each unfinished match.
D. Captains can temporarily or permanently resign during the tournament by adjusting their posting in the REGISTRATIONAL thread, in which they appoint a new captain.
E. Every team is free to choose a name; by default, every team gets the name of the team members' country.

[Updated on: Sun, 23 September 2012 23:33]

      

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  NC 2012 : Rules and discussion  Sysyphus - PommardMon, 13 August 2012 18:56
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Sysyphus - PommardMon, 13 August 2012 18:58
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule UK SubsMon, 13 August 2012 19:48
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelMon, 13 August 2012 19:50
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Sysyphus - PommardMon, 13 August 2012 20:45
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelMon, 13 August 2012 21:14
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule TuS TenniskasiTue, 14 August 2012 08:02
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Sysyphus - PommardWed, 15 August 2012 22:24
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule onyx puffinWed, 15 August 2012 23:21
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule DrakeStormThu, 16 August 2012 01:20
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule chrismmm_1987Thu, 16 August 2012 03:33
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule JenAckThu, 16 August 2012 09:08
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelThu, 16 August 2012 15:27
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Sysyphus - PommardThu, 16 August 2012 20:43
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule \/\/illFri, 17 August 2012 12:09
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule RMarkesFri, 17 August 2012 13:31
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule dea1Thu, 16 August 2012 20:50
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule HeckiFri, 17 August 2012 00:29
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Mr BeanFri, 17 August 2012 01:20
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Sysyphus - PommardFri, 17 August 2012 01:46
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule chrismmm_1987Fri, 17 August 2012 02:25
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Requiem For A DreamFri, 17 August 2012 03:48
  A bit disjointed but you hopefully get the ideas... \/\/illFri, 17 August 2012 13:30
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule \/\/illFri, 17 August 2012 13:51
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule TruckertellerFri, 17 August 2012 14:36
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule RMarkesFri, 17 August 2012 15:24
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule QorlasFri, 17 August 2012 18:26
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule \/\/illFri, 17 August 2012 19:02
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Mr BeanFri, 17 August 2012 21:31
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelFri, 17 August 2012 22:17
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule blubesFri, 17 August 2012 23:18
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelSat, 18 August 2012 00:03
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule QorlasSat, 18 August 2012 08:35
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule JenAckSun, 19 August 2012 00:59
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Sysyphus - PommardSun, 19 August 2012 02:25
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelSun, 19 August 2012 22:13
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule dea1Sun, 19 August 2012 23:44
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule onyx puffinMon, 20 August 2012 06:06
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule DrakeStormMon, 20 August 2012 08:55
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule toutoune - MorgonMon, 20 August 2012 10:41
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule AT_Angel6Mon, 20 August 2012 12:31
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Requiem For A DreamMon, 20 August 2012 13:09
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule onyx puffinMon, 20 August 2012 15:00
  Re: If 4 players, rules that must be changed: onyx puffinMon, 20 August 2012 15:11
  Re: If 4 players, rules that must be changed: Sysyphus - PommardMon, 20 August 2012 18:01
  Re: If 4 players, rules that must be changed: dea1Mon, 20 August 2012 22:27
  Re: If 4 players, rules that must be changed: HeckiMon, 20 August 2012 23:07
  Re: If 4 players, rules that must be changed: blubesTue, 21 August 2012 00:21
  Re: If 4 players, rules that must be changed: Sysyphus - PommardTue, 21 August 2012 00:05
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule TippmausTue, 21 August 2012 11:24
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule TuS TenniskasiTue, 21 August 2012 11:27
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule RMarkesTue, 21 August 2012 11:54
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule JenAckTue, 21 August 2012 13:21
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule QorlasTue, 21 August 2012 23:07
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule \/\/illWed, 22 August 2012 13:20
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelWed, 22 August 2012 15:13
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule TuS TenniskasiWed, 22 August 2012 16:02
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelWed, 22 August 2012 16:08
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule TuS TenniskasiWed, 22 August 2012 16:12
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelWed, 22 August 2012 16:17
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Sysyphus - PommardWed, 22 August 2012 18:23
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Sysyphus - PommardThu, 23 August 2012 04:30
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule onyx puffinThu, 23 August 2012 06:12
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule pegasoThu, 23 August 2012 10:19
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormThu, 23 August 2012 10:16
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion QorlasThu, 23 August 2012 12:11
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion AT_Angel6Thu, 23 August 2012 13:14
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Thu, 23 August 2012 13:40
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardThu, 23 August 2012 18:09
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardThu, 23 August 2012 18:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion TruckertellerFri, 24 August 2012 00:22
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion RMarkesSat, 25 August 2012 15:06
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardSat, 25 August 2012 18:46
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardMon, 27 August 2012 20:40
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion HeckiMon, 27 August 2012 23:33
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Tue, 28 August 2012 00:22
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardTue, 28 August 2012 06:12
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion QorlasTue, 28 August 2012 08:49
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardThu, 30 August 2012 17:52
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion QorlasThu, 30 August 2012 18:17
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Thu, 30 August 2012 19:17
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion onyx puffinThu, 30 August 2012 21:49
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Fri, 31 August 2012 00:27
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardFri, 31 August 2012 01:19
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardThu, 06 September 2012 05:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion QorlasThu, 06 September 2012 07:48
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardThu, 06 September 2012 15:11
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion onyx puffinThu, 06 September 2012 15:18
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Thu, 06 September 2012 17:11
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion TuS TenniskasiThu, 06 September 2012 21:40
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion JenAckThu, 06 September 2012 22:13
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion pegasoThu, 06 September 2012 23:46
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardFri, 07 September 2012 00:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Fri, 07 September 2012 10:40
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion TuS TenniskasiFri, 07 September 2012 11:10
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardFri, 07 September 2012 15:32
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormSat, 08 September 2012 02:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Sat, 08 September 2012 13:57
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormSun, 09 September 2012 00:43
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Sun, 09 September 2012 12:55
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion ACP MiguelSun, 09 September 2012 22:11
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardSun, 09 September 2012 22:41
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Sun, 09 September 2012 23:41
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormTue, 11 September 2012 03:46
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardThu, 13 September 2012 01:29
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardTue, 18 September 2012 02:40
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormTue, 18 September 2012 03:56
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardTue, 18 September 2012 04:16
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Elric - SancerreThu, 20 September 2012 00:34
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardSat, 22 September 2012 20:30
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion LucullupusSat, 22 September 2012 20:57
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Sun, 23 September 2012 22:47
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardSun, 23 September 2012 23:30
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Requiem For A DreamTue, 25 September 2012 19:07
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion ACP MiguelSun, 30 September 2012 12:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion KnockandoSun, 30 September 2012 17:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion onyx puffinSun, 30 September 2012 21:04
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion ACP MiguelMon, 01 October 2012 01:41
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion OLE MasimoMon, 01 October 2012 09:27
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardMon, 01 October 2012 15:46
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Mon, 01 October 2012 15:54
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion KnockandoMon, 01 October 2012 16:17
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardMon, 01 October 2012 16:30
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion KnockandoMon, 01 October 2012 17:41
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardMon, 01 October 2012 18:44
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion KnockandoMon, 01 October 2012 19:13
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Mon, 01 October 2012 23:48
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Mr BeanTue, 02 October 2012 08:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardWed, 03 October 2012 20:13
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormThu, 15 November 2012 06:41
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardThu, 15 November 2012 10:36
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion onyx puffinThu, 15 November 2012 15:14
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion RMarkesFri, 23 November 2012 00:18
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion OLE MasimoFri, 23 November 2012 09:07
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Mr BeanSat, 24 November 2012 11:20
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardSat, 24 November 2012 13:46
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Sat, 24 November 2012 13:53
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardSat, 24 November 2012 14:11
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Sat, 24 November 2012 14:25
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion OLE MasimoTue, 27 November 2012 12:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Tue, 27 November 2012 14:31
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion UK SubsMon, 10 September 2012 03:32
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormTue, 11 September 2012 02:07
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion TuS TenniskasiMon, 10 September 2012 08:24
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion ACP MiguelMon, 10 September 2012 10:31
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion QorlasMon, 10 September 2012 10:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion RMarkesMon, 10 September 2012 22:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Sysyphus - PommardTue, 11 September 2012 02:46
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormTue, 18 September 2012 03:33
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormTue, 18 September 2012 03:53
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion KnockandoMon, 24 September 2012 07:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion MaximouR - GingletTue, 13 November 2012 05:03
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion LucullupusTue, 13 November 2012 10:23
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion QorlasSat, 24 November 2012 14:21
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion DrakeStormSat, 24 November 2012 15:29
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion DrakeStormSat, 24 November 2012 15:53
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion chrismmm_1987Sun, 25 November 2012 00:15
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion OLE MasimoMon, 26 November 2012 10:05
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Mr BeanMon, 26 November 2012 23:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Sysyphus - PommardTue, 27 November 2012 01:44
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion OLE MasimoTue, 27 November 2012 11:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion DrakeStormWed, 28 November 2012 18:49
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion OLE MasimoThu, 29 November 2012 11:09
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerTue, 27 November 2012 13:16
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion \/\/illTue, 27 November 2012 13:41
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerTue, 27 November 2012 13:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Sysyphus - PommardTue, 27 November 2012 15:16
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerTue, 27 November 2012 15:19
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Elric - SancerreTue, 27 November 2012 15:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion AGT-DNTue, 27 November 2012 17:28
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerTue, 27 November 2012 13:48
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion GenuineFauxFarmTue, 27 November 2012 18:00
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Sysyphus - PommardTue, 27 November 2012 18:43
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion \/\/illWed, 28 November 2012 02:39
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion pegasoSat, 01 December 2012 13:34
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion pegasoSat, 01 December 2012 16:39
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion pegasoSat, 01 December 2012 17:22
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion pegasoSat, 01 December 2012 17:40
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Sysyphus - PommardWed, 05 December 2012 03:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Sysyphus - PommardSun, 09 December 2012 17:56
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion AGT-DNMon, 10 December 2012 00:47
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion DrakeStormMon, 10 December 2012 07:32
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion dea1Mon, 10 December 2012 11:17
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion \/\/illTue, 11 December 2012 03:18
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Sysyphus - PommardTue, 11 December 2012 04:27
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerTue, 11 December 2012 17:01
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion \/\/illWed, 12 December 2012 11:56
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerWed, 12 December 2012 13:15
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion ACP MiguelWed, 12 December 2012 13:16
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion \/\/illWed, 28 November 2012 02:48
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion \/\/illWed, 28 November 2012 03:55
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion onyx puffinWed, 28 November 2012 04:25
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion stemayfWed, 28 November 2012 13:16
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Sysyphus - PommardWed, 28 November 2012 15:32
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion dea1Wed, 28 November 2012 17:29
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion pegasoSat, 01 December 2012 13:14
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion CromzeWed, 28 November 2012 20:28
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Mr BeanWed, 28 November 2012 20:55
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion AT_Angel6Thu, 29 November 2012 12:53
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion GSV3Thu, 29 November 2012 13:11
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion \/\/illThu, 29 November 2012 14:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion JenAckThu, 29 November 2012 14:47
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion CromzeThu, 29 November 2012 14:58
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Sysyphus - PommardThu, 29 November 2012 15:34
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion \/\/illThu, 29 November 2012 19:14
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion QorlasMon, 10 December 2012 11:25
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion \/\/illTue, 11 December 2012 14:24
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Stephan1972Thu, 13 December 2012 00:50
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion GSV3Thu, 13 December 2012 13:28
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Stephan1972Thu, 13 December 2012 13:44
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerThu, 13 December 2012 14:55
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion dea1Thu, 13 December 2012 15:28
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerFri, 14 December 2012 15:12
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Sysyphus - PommardFri, 14 December 2012 15:45
  Re:NC 2012 : Truck makes misplaced comparisons TruckertellerThu, 13 December 2012 15:44
  Re:NC 2012 : Truck makes misplaced comparisons dea1Thu, 13 December 2012 16:24
  Thread needs to be clearer Sysyphus - PommardFri, 14 December 2012 02:00
  Wordings Sysyphus - PommardFri, 14 December 2012 02:52
  Re:Wordings dea1Fri, 14 December 2012 13:36
  Re:Wordings GSV3Fri, 14 December 2012 14:28
  Re:Wordings CromzeSun, 16 December 2012 17:42
  Re:Wordings TruckertellerSun, 16 December 2012 18:05
  Re:Wordings Sysyphus - PommardSun, 16 December 2012 19:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerFri, 14 December 2012 14:24
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerFri, 14 December 2012 16:00
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion GSV3Fri, 14 December 2012 18:08
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion KnockandoMon, 17 December 2012 13:23
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion GSV3Mon, 17 December 2012 16:26
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Sysyphus - PommardMon, 17 December 2012 18:38
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