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Fusion Cup : what to do in 2014 Thu, 28 March 2013 20:41
GANG-dea1 wrote on Thu, 28 March 2013 09:41

Looks good - let's keep it in mind for the aftermath.

I suggest we open a thread with suggestions and lessons learned right after the end of FC.

*) Shall we have Fusion Cup again next year?
*) What was good?
*) What was not so good and how could we change it?
*) Are there any enhancements people would like to see?


In this discussion, Brad suggests to change the tiebreaker in the KO and have one more match to play to decide on the outcome of the clash.
He also thinks of reducing the importance of the TAG since too many players are new to TAGs.


About TAG :

1) I dont consider many persons as TAG experts... There is tons of room for progress. Most teams were pretty new... dea/hecki, Suburu/hojita, Anu/Schwen, ww/True, and some like me ommie, Patterson, womble, me, have already played TAG (like 3 years ago), but we cant say that many teams are overly trained in TAG compared to others.

2) I think TAG match is a better reflection of the strength of a team than one random player. No team has a huge margin to make a tag match unbalanced.
Then yes, some teams are better prepared because they are discussing about it... You never win a match or a tourney coming hands in your pockets

About tiebreaker match :
1) Longer tourney = longer breaks = less interest.

2) I agree with dea, it gives too much power to a single player.
Also, due to schedule, American-based players would be very unlikely to be the tie-breaker person...

3)I still think we need to be consistent with our 6-game format. if we play those 6 games, each of them shall count. Every game of AAT is way different, and a win on an alternative map should be rewarded.



Solutions to improve the tourney. (in the case of a 5 round Round Robin)

*) Open schedule for TAG during Round Robin.

The tag of the last round of RR has to be played during the week dedicated to the last round so that captains can consider tactical lineups according to their RR results.
The first 4 have to be scheduled/played before TD publishes the lineups for the last round.
That said, there was only 2/3 problems during the whole RR.
Main problem was again communication (within a team, or late first contact), not scheduling itself.

*) There will be a TAG Tourney in June, so that we can have another opportunity to play TAG during the year, and improve the general level. I hope for 12 teams, 16 teams is not unrealistic.

*) If people are really not happy with the "games won" tie-breaker in KO, discussion is open. I'd rather see a 5-match lineup sent from day 1 of each KO round.

Then what to play ?
My preference would go to a 2nd AAT match or US/EUR played by a player not involved in singles. We do not need more US map.


My view of the tourney :
1) Some teams really tried to vary their lineup, and to have US specialists play a bit of europe or TAG. I really liked that.
I Euroleague slightly boosted the interest for the Euro map, and that's a +.

2) Still hard to convince many players to taste AAT. But we have some new names like GFF/haxxli/Pammes. Soon Cromze I hope Smile
Maybe we should think of creating an AAT League better than AAT championship. We could have Euroleague season and AAT league season from January to June.

I dont know why some players would not some AAT for fun. Lack of interest ? Sucks to figure out a map ? It is a tourney and I can not look bad in a tourney ? I dont want to pay ?


3) About Big Bang group maybe doing the Grand Slam in semis :
*) GASP just lost to LOL by one game, and had a chance to wrap it up in TAG.
*) Probably not the best tactical decision from PPB.
*) GANG - Guru is another story, not yet over.

When we do a preseeding, it's hard to know the involvement of every team. I personally felt like the lobby was busier during Fusion than CL.. the fact that we were playing alternative did not affect the number of observers...
Most teams were really involved and helped the tourney to be successful.
      

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