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"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. Wed, 09 April 2014 23:05
Please note, this is not an open discussion on whether or not scenarios need fixing.


I do not like that many of the official scenarios are wildly unbalanced. And by that I mean 30/70% splits or worse as listed on the Days of Wonder website and/or M44 online.

I do not feel that playing each side is interesting in this case (I liken it to taking it in turns to beat each other round the head with a large stick. Painful, and dull, as a contest)


Scanning through the Eastern Front scenarios, Tigers in the Snow, one of the most exciting (in theory) scenarios is listed at 23% for the Russians. In my experience, scenarios with that kind of balance are not won by the occasional brilliant play (between competent players) but by a combination of good dice rolling and fortunate card flow.


How would you / do you go about balancing these? I'm more interested in comparing notes since for these kinds of "flagship" scenarios I'm setting them up for multiple replays trying different ways to bring back the scenario balance at least into what I call the "hot spot" i.e. 40-50% for one side.

Ideas include stripping off entire units from the board, or reducing the number of figures in some of the units, modifying the number of cards in hand, or supplementing the underdog with extra units or figures. Even reorganizing the position of some of the units, or special rules for certain units.

Feel free to discuss Tigers in the Snow as a specific example, but more generic ideas or experiences would be good to hear

Again, please note, this is NOT a thread designed to discuss the merit of this idea, only about your implementation of it or suggestions for implementation. If you want to play the scenarios as published, please be my guest. What you do in your own home is not a concern for me in that case.

Hedgerow Hell 18% allies
Disaster at Dieppe 23% allies
Tigers in the Snow 23% allies
Omaha Beach overlord 22% allies

its very many of these classic battle pack / overlord scenarios that are completely out of whack. I don't really understand why they didn't playtest and adjust these to be more balanced.


Its actually weird, because its almost all the "big name" overlord maps that are messed up. In the Eastern Front, the balance is 44,52,42,39 ... and then 23 for Tigers

Med and Pac 41, 44, (85)

then western front, all pretty balanced except Omaha, Hedgerow, Dieppe.

Of the four Battle Packs, 3 are headlined by scenarios where one side is expected to win 20% of the time. Crazy

[Updated on: Wed, 09 April 2014 23:59]

      

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  "Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it.  lamboltWed, 09 April 2014 23:05
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. Sgt StormThu, 10 April 2014 00:26
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. lamboltThu, 10 April 2014 01:16
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. lamboltThu, 10 April 2014 01:18
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. sam1812Thu, 10 April 2014 02:15
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. LooneyLlamaThu, 10 April 2014 00:49
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. red_zebraThu, 10 April 2014 00:51
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. lamboltThu, 10 April 2014 07:58
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. Achtung PanzerThu, 10 April 2014 10:24
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. lamboltThu, 10 April 2014 23:37
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. stevensFri, 11 April 2014 01:20
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. Sgt StormFri, 11 April 2014 04:27
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. rasmussen81Fri, 11 April 2014 05:28
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. lamboltFri, 11 April 2014 07:54
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. lamboltFri, 11 April 2014 07:59
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. lamboltFri, 11 April 2014 08:00
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. stevensFri, 11 April 2014 13:29
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. sam1812Fri, 11 April 2014 15:05
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. rasmussen81Fri, 11 April 2014 16:10
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. lamboltFri, 11 April 2014 18:23
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. lamboltFri, 11 April 2014 18:58
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. lamboltFri, 11 April 2014 19:08
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. stevensFri, 11 April 2014 21:58
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. Sgt StormSun, 13 April 2014 02:23
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. LooneyLlamaFri, 11 April 2014 22:03
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. rasmussen81Fri, 11 April 2014 23:57
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. sam1812Sat, 12 April 2014 01:55
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. rasmussen81Sat, 12 April 2014 06:49
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. ad79Sat, 12 April 2014 09:32
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. Achtung PanzerSat, 12 April 2014 16:08
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. Major DuncanSun, 13 April 2014 12:37
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. questioneerSun, 13 April 2014 19:13
  Re:"Fixing" unbalanced scenarios - how do you / would you do it. 50thSun, 13 April 2014 23:42
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