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Almilcar
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Scoring Breakthrough at Mortain in the Hedgerow Hell Campaign Fri, 10 August 2012 15:39
Hello,

how do you folks score this scenario for the campaign?

Imagine the Allies have won 9 victory medals, while the Axis managed to get his 5th objective medal.

The result to be scored is 9 - 5 or 9 - 12, as per scenario conditions of victory?

Thanks
      
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Re:Scoring Breakthrough at Mortain in the Hedgerow Hell Campaign Fri, 10 August 2012 19:47
I've discussed this with JDRommel and have the answer somewhere. I'll dig it up later.

Short answer. Germans score points for units elliminated in addition to the permanent objectives.

Max score for Germans if they win is 12, but can be as low as 5 if they don't elliminate Allied units.

Was that clear enough?
      
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Re:Scoring Breakthrough at Mortain in the Hedgerow Hell Campaign Sat, 11 August 2012 09:49
ad79 wrote on Fri, 10 August 2012 19:47

I've discussed this with JDRommel and have the answer somewhere. I'll dig it up later.

Short answer. Germans score points for units elliminated in addition to the permanent objectives.

Max score for Germans if they win is 12, but can be as low as 5 if they don't elliminate Allied units.

Was that clear enough?


Thanks, ad79.

If that is the case, the conditions of victory stated for that scenario are not being followed. So it should be added in the FAQ and in the CB2 Errata.

I'll wait for your answer though.
      
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Re:Scoring Breakthrough at Mortain in the Hedgerow Hell Campaign Tue, 14 August 2012 11:44
Nobody knows how to score this scenario for the campaign?
      
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Re:Scoring Breakthrough at Mortain in the Hedgerow Hell Campaign Thu, 16 August 2012 05:09
I haven't played it yet, but ad79's answer above make sense. That's how i will play it when i get to it.
      
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Re:Scoring Breakthrough at Mortain in the Hedgerow Hell Campaign Thu, 16 August 2012 12:48
Victory conditions when played as part of the campaign.

Germans must take 5 permanent objectives to win the scenario. (This is the only win condition, so there is no need to elliminate any Allied units to win)

If the Germans win(take 5 permanent objectives) their score will be:
Number of permanent objectives(5 since they won) + number of Allied units elliminated.

Max winning score for Germans are 12. (they will get no more points even if they elliminate more Allied units)

This means that the Germans can score anything between 5 and 12 if they win.

If the Germans lose the scenario their score is number of permanent objectives + elliminated allied units, but max score is 11. (even if they elliminate more allied units)


Allied win conditions when played as part of the campaign remains the same as written in the win condition rule.
      
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Re:Scoring Breakthrough at Mortain in the Hedgerow Hell Campaign Thu, 16 August 2012 15:14
ad79 wrote on Thu, 16 August 2012 12:48

Victory conditions when played as part of the campaign.

Germans must take 5 permanent objectives to win the scenario. (This is the only win condition, so there is no need to elliminate any Allied units to win)

If the Germans win(take 5 permanent objectives) their score will be:
Number of permanent objectives(5 since they won) + number of Allied units elliminated.

Max winning score for Germans are 12. (they will get no more points even if they elliminate more Allied units)

This means that the Germans can score anything between 5 and 12 if they win.

If the Germans lose the scenario their score is number of permanent objectives + elliminated allied units, but max score is 11. (even if they elliminate more allied units)


Allied win conditions when played as part of the campaign remains the same as written in the win condition rule.


Thanks ad79. This should be added somehow either to the CB#2 Errata or the upcoming FAQ.
      
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Re:Scoring Breakthrough at Mortain in the Hedgerow Hell Campaign Thu, 16 August 2012 15:38
Almilcar wrote on Thu, 16 August 2012 17:14

ad79 wrote on Thu, 16 August 2012 12:48

Victory conditions when played as part of the campaign.

Germans must take 5 permanent objectives to win the scenario. (This is the only win condition, so there is no need to elliminate any Allied units to win)

If the Germans win(take 5 permanent objectives) their score will be:
Number of permanent objectives(5 since they won) + number of Allied units elliminated.

Max winning score for Germans are 12. (they will get no more points even if they elliminate more Allied units)

This means that the Germans can score anything between 5 and 12 if they win.

If the Germans lose the scenario their score is number of permanent objectives + elliminated allied units, but max score is 11. (even if they elliminate more allied units)


Allied win conditions when played as part of the campaign remains the same as written in the win condition rule.


Thanks ad79. This should be added somehow either to the CB#2 Errata or the upcoming FAQ.


Being that the FAQ is already so big, we decided a long time ago that specific CB questions will not be included. This would be something to include in the CB#2 Errata, though. Cool
      
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Re:Scoring Breakthrough at Mortain in the Hedgerow Hell Campaign Thu, 16 August 2012 18:15
rasmussen81 wrote on Thu, 16 August 2012 15:38


Being that the FAQ is already so big, we decided a long time ago that specific CB questions will not be included. This would be something to include in the CB#2 Errata, though. Cool


Then I think deemao is our man!
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Re:Scoring Breakthrough at Mortain in the Hedgerow Hell Campaign Thu, 16 August 2012 18:16
Almilcar wrote on Thu, 16 August 2012 20:15

rasmussen81 wrote on Thu, 16 August 2012 15:38


Being that the FAQ is already so big, we decided a long time ago that specific CB questions will not be included. This would be something to include in the CB#2 Errata, though. Cool


Then I think deemao is our man!
Laughing Cool Surprised


Indeed! Very Happy
      
    
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