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graham_butters
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Combat with 3+pirates Tue, 12 March 2013 17:54
I have been playing this game for a while and had a quick clarification. When combat occurs with three or more pirates how is the fame awarded for the combat. The rules say that the conquering pirate gains 1 fame for every pirate that is destroyed or flees the battle. So is it reasonable to conclude that the last ship standing in a 3 player combat takes the two fame points? What about the scenario where the Pirate#1 is very lucky and sinks Pirate #2, at which point Pirate #3 sinks Pirate #1. It doesn't seem fair that the player with the lowest sail value is allowed to basically cherry pick the victory points.

In addition when there are multiple pirates battling a legendary pirate is the fame always split? Even when Pirate #1 sinks Captain Hook in one try and then Pirate #2 finishes off Pirate #1? I wasn't sure if anyone had any insight into these situations that seem to reward the player with the lowest sail value and the final shot.
      
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Re:Combat with 3+pirates Thu, 14 March 2013 11:52
I'm not sure what the official answer would be for these, but I think we usually play that the pirate who actually defeated someone gets the points for that victory. So in your example of Player #1 defeating Player #2, P1 would get a point...then Player #3 would get a point for defeating Player #1.

With the Legendary Pirate, we also give the points to the one who actually sinks the ship...even if they later lose to another pirate. Basically the points are given as soon as the victory happens; they don't sit around and accumulate until the end of all the fighting.

Like I said though, this is how we play it and I don't know if it's the official way. It sure makes for a fun game!!!
      
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Re:Combat with 3+pirates Fri, 22 March 2013 18:40
My understanding of the rules is as follows.

In a battle between multiple players with no legendary pirate, the last player standing gets all fame points, "1 point per player that is defeated or flees after being hit" as "clearly" stated in the "Scoring" box on page 7.

Each such encounter is a single battle and in accordance with the rules (that one sentence quoted above) there is only one winner of the battle. If you are the player that fires first, you have the advantage. If for some reason your successes are "cherry picked" by a weaker player, then tough luck; maybe you screwed up and should have attacked the other player first.

In a battle involving a legendary pirate, the rules on page 13 are clear: "If a Legendary Pirate is sunk, the fame value indicated on its reference card is immediately split among all players present who survived the combat...Surviving players continue combat until only one player ship remains."

So clearly the players still alive at the time the Legendary Pirate is sunk, split the fame BEFORE continuing the battle between themselves.

But, you can always use a house rule to alter these rules if all players agree.

[Mis à jour le: Fri, 17 May 2013 17:35]

      
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Re:Combat with 3+pirates Fri, 29 March 2013 20:48
Thanks guys that was really helpful. I see how it works with the Legendary Pirate now and it seems like mostly house rules when it's a duel to the death amongst fellow pirates.
      
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Re:Combat with 3+pirates Fri, 17 May 2013 00:56
Sgt Storm wrote on Fri, 22 March 2013 17:40



So clearly the players still alive at the time the Legendary Pirate is sunk, split the fame BEFORE continuing the battle between themselves. So, it might be a good strategy to use another player to weaken the LP and then kill the player before finishing off the LP.




You can't actually do this you must finish off the LP or Royal Navy first
"If a Legendary Pirate and/or the Royal Navy are present on
the island and the player stays to fight, he must target his volleys at them until all such ships have been sunk. Only then will
he be able to direct his cannons at fellow players’ ships, if any
is still present."

L8r's

Taylor
      
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Re:Combat with 3+pirates Fri, 17 May 2013 17:31
Yeah, that's true. I've removed that statement so as not to confuse anyone.
      
    
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