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eldonion
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Just received my copy of the game Thu, 23 June 2011 18:30
DOW were as efficient as ever with their service and I now have received my copy

I am looking forward to playing it at the next meeting of my games club but that's not until next Tuesday

Do any of you Cleopatra experts out there have any comments or suggestions (Best number of players, tactics, general comments)

Visually the game is very impressive with lots of good looking and at first glance well made parts.

I notice that this forum was last used in 2009 so it would be interesting to see if those that have copies of the game still use it, or is it one one those games that get played once or twice and then consigned to the back of the cupboard.

Unfortunately i find that this is more and more the case as the hobby has become much larger over the last few years and the choice of games is now so vast.

At my club every week we have someone bringing in one or 2 new games to try.

Unfortunately we find that even the good games tend not to get the full playtime that they deserve
(We all like to give the new games a try)

Does this happen to anyone else?

Rolling Eyes Very Happy
      
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Re:Just received my copy of the game Fri, 24 June 2011 00:16
I've owned the game for about 2 years now and I think I've played it only twice, so don't have much advice to offer.

I play games mostly with my family and we play board games (good board games) all the time, however, we have quite a few good games that don't get that much play time, Cleopatra being one of them. This is mainly because we have a pretty large collection of games and I do not have all that much control over what we play. I try to convince everyone else to cycle through the games, so we at least play all the good ones once in a while, but it ends up that the rest of family members favor certain specific games and its hard to get them steered elsewhere.

Its also my fault, as I continue to purchase new games. But at least I only purchase the best games. Rolling Eyes
      
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Re:Just received my copy of the game Thu, 30 June 2011 12:08
Played the game on Tuesday as well as a game of Cargo Noir

Both games were played with 5 players and were enjoyed by all.

The game took longer than anticipated as we were all unfamiliar with the rules, but that said there was some interesting aspects to the game.

The idea that the one with the most corruption points was eliminated at the game end was well received.

This fear of this resulted in 3 people paying well over the odds during the sacrifice to the gods part. One person bid 10 coins which meant he was 2 coins short to win at the end of the game.

Overall the game was a hit, but the comments received included

Took longer than anticipated
(New game new rules)

A lot of waiting around between goes
People were unsure of what to buy and took a long time to decide
when not your turn there is nothing happening so some quite long waits between your goes.
(This will be quicker once the format and game knowledge improves)

Very little interaction between players.
What you did had little bearing overall on what other players would do

Afterwards we played Cargo Noir.
With this game there is always the possibility to be aggressive and outbid and annoy other players, which always creates much amusement within the group.

The verdict overall with the games were
we would play Cleopatra again as it would definitely be better the second time around but given a choice, Cargo Noir would be preferred simply because of the possible player interaction during the game

(At heart we are a bunch of children who enjoy sabotaging the other master plans when ever possible!!!)

Hope the review is usful
      
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Re:Just received my copy of the game Fri, 01 July 2011 19:44
Interesting review.

My family played this game again this week, so this would be the 3rd time we've played. We experienced the same delays between player turns, when it is time to build something. It seems mainly just remembering what is needed to build the various pieces takes people some time. But overall the game went pretty fast. With 4 players it took about an hour.

Once again I lost on corruption points and was fed to the crocs, a result of being the only one willing to take the really large piles of cards no one else dares to take.

I don't think it is necessarily cautious to bid 10 talents for the sacrifice, if you have added corruption to get more money. In our game, my son bid 15 the first time and about 10 the second, and still ended up winning the game with virtually no corruption and nearly 30 talents. I bid close to 10 the first and 15 the second time and was able to remove corruption, but not enough. Even with these two bids I ended up with 57 talents, probably a result of being too corrupt (8 corruption amulets).

You are right about the player interaction. Besides the sacrifice (auction) there is no interaction besides taking cards or buildings that others desire. However, when playing with my family, having little player interaction is actually a good thing, as our kids are 7 and 10 and are not crazy (yet) about being clobbered by their parents or their siblings.

I haven't played Cargo Noir, but after reading the rules my main concern is summed up by the question, "Where's the Noir?". It seem like there was very little in the game to support the underworld theme except the artwork, and so it was not appealing. The mechanics were too similar to other really good auction/set collection games we already have. More "Noir" (or actually some "Noir") besides the superficial would probably have made this game stand out.

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Re:Just received my copy of the game Wed, 13 July 2011 23:27
Played the game again twice yesterday and it was definitely better the second time around

The game play was quicker and you could see the various tactics and strategies people were trying to employ. (Not quite sure yet which was the best way to go)

Played with 4 experienced gamers who have all quickly picked up the rules and we all had an enjoyable 2 and half hours (With a short break in the middle)
      
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Re:Just received my copy of the game Tue, 26 July 2011 18:11
I've had the game for several years now and like another posted mentioned, it doesn't get a lot of play simply because of the scope of choice available, and that is certainly true of many good games. I'm not surprised at all that the second go-around at the game was better. Personally, I love the corruption mechanics in this game.

At a recent games night we ended up with two games of this being played at the same time. The response from participants (most had not played it before) was favourable and they'd play again. As you found out, the best way to get a feel for a game is to play it more than once.
      
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Re:Just received my copy of the game Wed, 01 August 2012 19:03
I have had Cleopatra for a number of years and commissioned one of my friends to dry-brush paint the figures to make them look sand-swept.

In terms of tactics, I found that the concentration on mosaic placement with column wall adjacencies to have been the key to victory in many game plays. Corruption avoidance ia always key. It seems to play best with minimum 4 or 5 players due to the crocodile factor.

It is one of those games that makes it to the table fairly frequently and is often requested for play. It is a good family game IMHO.

I really like the game and it is a valued part of my Egyptian collection.
      
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Re:Just received my copy of the game Tue, 28 January 2014 02:08
I've had this game for a little while but hadn't got it to the table just because nobody but me wanted to learn a new game...but once we played it, we all agreed that it's a new favorite!

This is such a fun game to have in our collecction! I especially liked the balance of Corruption, the cards being flipped different directions, and the overall feel of the game. So. Much. Fun!!
      
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Re:Just received my copy of the game Tue, 28 January 2014 21:52
Yeah I like this game too. It doesn't get enough respect. I really like feeding the corrupt players to the crocs, but I am usually the most corrupt. Twisted Evil

If you particularly like that kind of game, try Downfall of Pompeii. Its an excellent game. Its not a DOW game, but once in a while you get to toss player's citizens into the volcano as a sacrifice. Not much more in common with Cleopatra though.

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