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andrewgr
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Free Companies scenario-- ugly way to lose Mon, 11 December 2006 01:49
My opponent and I each took a level 2 Cleric, because of the "Hills Rumble" and "Forest Frenzy" cards-- with 15 hills and 12 forests on the board, it seemed like the obvious thing to do.

My worthy opponent won the battle 6-5. All 6 of his flags came because he played *both* "Hills Rumble" and "Forest Frenzy". He rated to kill 11 figures the first time and 10 figures the second time-- he actually rolled a bit below odds.

I discarded a "Foiled" card in favor of "Eagle Eye" because I was odds to get my 6th flag with the extra dice and he was down to 3 lore, so I figured even if he had the second card he couldn't use it any time soon. Then I failed to kill him, he rolled 4 mana on 7 dice during a battle, and also had the second card ready to use. Sad

Anyway, having great fun with the game so far-- you just need to accept that there's a bit of luck involved!
      
SHwoKing
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Re:Free Companies scenario-- ugly way to lose Mon, 11 December 2006 02:14
You can blame luck for this battle but you can blame yourself too maybe.

Once you were hit by the Hills rumble, you should maybe have stayed away from Woods. How many units did he targets you to lose 10 figures in a row ?

And what was your chance to beat your opponent's unit while playing Eagle eye ? How many figures were in the attacked unit before attacking ? Maybe it was too risky and you should have keep your Foiled.

What was the other Lore card you prefered to keep instead of Foiled ? (with a Lvl 2 Cleric, you should have a maximum of 3 Lore cards in your hand).

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andrewgr
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Re:Free Companies scenario-- ugly way to lose Mon, 11 December 2006 02:40
Have you looked at that scenario? It is simply not possible to fight that scenario avoiding tress or hills. It's just not. I'll take my fair share of the blame for making a questionable call on discarding "foiled", but it is not possible to fight the enemy without being within one hex of forest or hills in that battle.

I discarded "foiled" after drawing 2 cards in the lore phase. I drew "Eagle Eye" and "Foiled", and had to choose between the two-- you're not allowed to keep both. I had "Darken the Sky" in my hand, so it was an extra 6 dice of rolling to keep "Eagle Eye", which is an extra 1 hit on average. That one hit gave me the odds I needed to end the game.

We had been through less than half the deck, so there was less than 50% chance that he had the card he needed in his hand. Even if he did have the card in his hand, he didn't have the lore he needed to cast it until he went 4/7 on lore symbols during his attack.

I dunno. Discarding "Foiled" may have been the wrong call, but if so I think it was at the very least a close call. But staying away from all hills on that map board is untenable.

I'm not complaining about there being luck in the game. I have a large variety of games at my disposal, with a wide range of luck factors. If I don't want to lose a game because of luck, I'm quite happy to play Go. I just thought it was sick (in a sort of amusing sort of way) to have my opponent cast those 2 spells on me during the game in that particular scenario, where the board is literally checkerboarded with hills and forests.
      
thatbloketimbo
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Re:Free Companies scenario-- ugly way to lose Mon, 11 December 2006 03:11
The best laid plans of mice and all that... Smile

Sounded like a fun game and a good opponent if you were that closely matched.

T.
      
SHwoKing
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Re:Free Companies scenario-- ugly way to lose Mon, 11 December 2006 10:40
andrewgr wrote on Mon, 11 December 2006 02:40

Have you looked at that scenario? It is simply not possible to fight that scenario avoiding tress or hills. It's just not. I'll take my fair share of the blame for making a questionable call on discarding "foiled", but it is not possible to fight the enemy without being within one hex of forest or hills in that battle.


You can fight while avoiding Trees in this scenario IMO. Or at least not exposing too much unit.

andrewgr wrote on Mon, 11 December 2006 02:40


I discarded "foiled" after drawing 2 cards in the lore phase. I drew "Eagle Eye" and "Foiled", and had to choose between the two-- you're not allowed to keep both.


Ok i see

andrewgr wrote on Mon, 11 December 2006 02:40


I had "Darken the Sky" in my hand, so it was an extra 6 dice of rolling to keep "Eagle Eye", which is an extra 1 hit on average. That one hit gave me the odds I needed to end the game.


You know archer are quiet weak. With 10 dice rolling, doing at least 4 hit is only 6,97%, 3 hit is only 22,48%, 2 : 51,55%. Depending on the number of figures the attacked unit has, it can be very tough to kill a unit with an archer unit. This is why i was asking.

andrewgr wrote on Mon, 11 December 2006 02:40


We had been through less than half the deck, so there was less than 50% chance that he had the card he needed in his hand. Even if he did have the card in his hand, he didn't have the lore he needed to cast it until he went 4/7 on lore symbols during his attack.

Maybe he would have choose to pick two lore tokens at the end of his turn if he rolled only two lore tokens. Or maybe waiting one more turn and pick 2 lore tokens and cast etc...

andrewgr wrote on Mon, 11 December 2006 02:40

I dunno. Discarding "Foiled" may have been the wrong call, but if so I think it was at the very least a close call. But staying away from all hills on that map board is untenable.


I agree, staying away from both hills and woods is not possible, only one of them maybe possible.


andrewgr wrote on Mon, 11 December 2006 02:40

I'm not complaining about there being luck in the game. I have a large variety of games at my disposal, with a wide range of luck factors. If I don't want to lose a game because of luck, I'm quite happy to play Go. I just thought it was sick (in a sort of amusing sort of way) to have my opponent cast those 2 spells on me during the game in that particular scenario, where the board is literally checkerboarded with hills and forests.


If you had fun, it's the most important. And you could do other scenario to avoid being crunch by hills and thrown away by trees
Razz

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Re:Free Companies scenario-- ugly way to lose Mon, 11 December 2006 17:05
As far as I understand these cards, you have to pick ONE hill/forest.
      
tech7
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Re:Free Companies scenario-- ugly way to lose Mon, 11 December 2006 17:23
bump wrote on Mon, 11 December 2006 17:05

As far as I understand these cards, you have to pick ONE hill/forest.


Quote:


Target: All enemy units on, or next to, elevated terrain
Effect:

Roll 1d / level + 1d, against each target.
Each Lore or target's banner color rolled scores a hit.
Flags, bonus strikes and other banner colors have no effect.



No,
in that case, Target would be : All enemy units on, or next to, one elevated terrain of your choice.

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Merry11
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Re:Free Companies scenario-- ugly way to lose Mon, 11 December 2006 22:24
I had a similar fate with a chain lightning card. I had my center and right flank all in one nice line of troops(8 troops in all). With some lucky rolls, that one card managed to destroy two units, and wound the other 6, most of the units had only the flag bearer left.

Last time I ever make a long line like that.
      
SHwoKing
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Re:Free Companies scenario-- ugly way to lose Mon, 11 December 2006 22:46
Chain lighting is deadly, especially with a level 3 Cleric. Much much chance to hit units over and over.
      
steve_hill
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Re:Free Companies scenario-- ugly way to lose Mon, 11 December 2006 23:04
My 9 year-old daughter nearly beat me with a very effective "Creeping Doom" on my particularly tightly bunched right-wing. Fortunately I only lost one banner, but the other units were badly mauled.

I got my own back with a Greater Portal and swapped one of my units for one of hers (with only the banner left) placing her in the thick of my heavies. Banner destroyed -- game won Twisted Evil

I have beaten a 9 year-old woo hoo ... oh wait.

Steve.
      
    
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