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36 days and finally a new blog post! Wed, 04 April 2007 22:55
You will recall:

"On Feb 16th 2007 Days of Wonder wrote:"

Because we did not want this change of format to make us renege on our pledge to make new figures available on a unit by unit basis, we will also release these in single-unit blisters, exclusively off our web site. We are still working out a few specifics; more information should follow in late March.


We're overdue for some news, specifically about single-unit blisters. Any news?

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Re:Single-unit Blister News? Thu, 05 April 2007 02:04
May I join your wishes and see DOW releases some more information soon, as well as start taking preorders for Call to Arms.
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Sun, 08 April 2007 19:49
Bump...just hoping for some news.
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Sun, 08 April 2007 21:50
Hear hear!

Also, I do hope they release enough stuff each time to reach ¤50 so I don't have to pay shipping each time.

So does this mean that ALL singles found on DOW site will come in larger less costly(will cost you more to buy each unit as a single) regiment packs aswell?
      
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  Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Mon, 09 April 2007 15:53
30 days without an update of any sort is a bit ridiculous. Confused
Especially considering we are now a week into a month where there is suppossed to be a new release and we don't even have a date yet.
Even if it is only bad news about an unexpected delay, we could at least get a tidbit about where the process stands.

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  Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Mon, 09 April 2007 17:59
I have to agree. Not sure why I still check every day, I must like dissapointment. The forum posts have dwindled to a trickle because there is nothing new to talk about.

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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Mon, 09 April 2007 18:18
Zeal wrote on Mon, 09 April 2007 17:59

I have to agree. Not sure why I still check every day, I must like dissapointment.

You don't need to check every day: just use an RSS agregator and you'll be warned at the moment there is an update in the blog.
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Mon, 09 April 2007 21:50
Vetinari wrote: "30 days without an update of any sort is a bit ridiculous.
Especially considering we are now a week into a month where there is suppossed to be a new release and we don't even have a date yet."

Yes, and that's not all. We should have been getting expansions from last month, March, if the initial DOW releases plans had been followed. There were supposed to be 2-3 small expansions every month, from March.
Not that I'm complaining, I would rather prefer to see well thought and beautiful expansions, even if they are released more slowly.(Quality versus quantity)

Brice wrote: "You don't need to check every day: just use an RSS agregator and you'll be warned at the moment there is an update in the blog."
How can I do that? Because I also check every day... Confused

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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Mon, 09 April 2007 23:22
If you haven't heard from us lately, it's because we've been busy and/or without significant new news to share yet. This will start changing. We will be posting an update in the coming days.
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Mon, 09 April 2007 23:48
eric wrote on Mon, 09 April 2007 22:22

If you haven't heard from us lately, it's because we've been busy and/or without significant new news to share yet. This will start changing. We will be posting an update in the coming days.



Good

Got my latest fix from BGG via a session report of A Call to Arms from a chap who had won a signed copy:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/160776
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Tue, 10 April 2007 00:12
eric wrote on Mon, 09 April 2007 17:22

If you haven't heard from us lately, it's because we've been busy and/or without significant new news to share yet. This will start changing. We will be posting an update in the coming days.




Since you guys are back, how about an answer and detailed examples to this post:
http://www.daysofwonder.com/index.php?t=msg&th=9251& start=0&rid=233459&S=07ad9619b30453713d68637c5b77d2c 2
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We have been waiting a long time to get the elevated terrain questions definitively answered, and there are several different ideas of how to play it.

Jude
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Tue, 10 April 2007 00:33
A fairly detailed serie of examples has just been uploaded in the official adventures section of the Adventure editor.
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Tue, 10 April 2007 01:29
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from Eric: If you haven't heard from us lately, it's because we've been busy and/or without significant new news to share yet. This will start changing. We will be posting an update in the coming days.


That will be really good. Smile Thanks.
How do cliffs work? Is it impassable terrain? And, more importantly, if enemy units are forced to retreat, instead of having loses, is the entire unit wiped out?. Twisted Evil
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Tue, 10 April 2007 12:44
eric wrote on Mon, 09 April 2007 18:33

A fairly detailed serie of examples has just been uploaded in the official adventures section of the Adventure editor.


Thank you. Smile Two more questions about it, though:

In Example F: "Both archer units have line of sight. The units are on the same series of contiguous hill hexes and therefore the units have line of sight."

-- do the units still have line of sight if they are on the same series of contiguous hill hexes and there are MORE than one hill hex (with not other blocking terrain) between them?

--what if they are on the same series of contiguous hill hexes, but the hill area is shaped with a GAP, like this (X=Hill hex, _=Clear hex, small x=Hill hex with unit on it):

_xX_x_
_XX_X_
__XXX_
--if the units are on, for example, the first and last spaces of the top line of hills (that I have marked with a small x), do they still have line of sight or does the space(s) between negate the benefit of the contiguous hill hexes?

Jude

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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Tue, 10 April 2007 13:14
Jude schrieb am Tue, 10 April 2007 12:44

eric wrote on Mon, 09 April 2007 18:33

A fairly detailed serie of examples has just been uploaded in the official adventures section of the Adventure editor.


Thank you. Smile Two more questions about it, though:

In Example F: "Both archer units have line of sight. The units are on the same series of contiguous hill hexes and therefore the units have line of sight."

-- do the units still have line of sight if they are on the same series of contiguous hill hexes and there are MORE than one hill hex (with not other blocking terrain) between them?


Yes, they do, because they are on the same level and there is no other blocking terrain in between.

Quote:

--what if they are on the same series of contiguous hill hexes, but the hill area is shaped with a GAP, like this (X=Hill hex, _=Clear hex, small x=Hill hex with unit on it):

_xX_x_
_XX_X_
__XXX_
--if the units are on, for example, the first and last spaces of the top line of hills (that I have marked with a small x), do they still have line of sight or does the space(s) between negate the benefit of the contiguous hill hexes?

Jude


I see your point here. But, the first thing you do when determining LOS is draw a line between the centers of the starting and target hex. In your example this would result in case D of the DOW examples, hence no line of sight.

I hope I am right on this,

Dark.

      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Tue, 10 April 2007 15:13
eric wrote on Mon, 09 April 2007 17:22

If you haven't heard from us lately, it's because we've been busy and/or without significant new news to share yet. This will start changing. We will be posting an update in the coming days.



I am not a PR expert, but here's my two cents on the public relations issue it creates:

By creating a blog, you create an expectation of a certain level of communication. If you are busy with no new news to share, you can at least explicitly say that on the blog every week or two. One sentence of: "Sorry, but nothing on the immediate horizon to share this week." would be satisfactory. We understand that a blog is not a commitment to regular, significant press releases. It's just a web-based log. Sometimes it is interesting. Sometimes, it is just a "nothing-new" update. But with a blog the communication should be somewhat regular, even if the content is not always consistent.
Without a blog, the lack of announcements is merely disappointing. With a blog, a month without any updates becomes annoying. Better to have disappointed customers than annoyed customers.

I am all for not making promises you cannot keep and not releasing half-baked products or tentative information. I'm just saying that from a PR stand point, be careful not to create an expectation of regular communication if your intent is irregular communications dependant on when you have major announcements. It's your choice of when and how to communicate. But whatever and whenever you communicate, it will be better recieved if you communications are consistent with the expectations you've created. Again, just my two cents. I look forward to your next update.
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Tue, 10 April 2007 18:15
Vetinari wrote on Tue, 10 April 2007 07:13

eric wrote on Mon, 09 April 2007 17:22

If you haven't heard from us lately, it's because we've been busy and/or without significant new news to share yet. This will start changing. We will be posting an update in the coming days.



I am not a PR expert, but here's my two cents on the public relations issue it creates:

By creating a blog, you create an expectation of a certain level of communication. If you are busy with no new news to share, you can at least explicitly say that on the blog every week or two. One sentence of: "Sorry, but nothing on the immediate horizon to share this week." would be satisfactory. We understand that a blog is not a commitment to regular, significant press releases. It's just a web-based log. Sometimes it is interesting. Sometimes, it is just a "nothing-new" update. But with a blog the communication should be somewhat regular, even if the content is not always consistent.
Without a blog, the lack of announcements is merely disappointing. With a blog, a month without any updates becomes annoying. Better to have disappointed customers than annoyed customers.

I am all for not making promises you cannot keep and not releasing half-baked products or tentative information. I'm just saying that from a PR stand point, be careful not to create an expectation of regular communication if your intent is irregular communications dependant on when you have major announcements. It's your choice of when and how to communicate. But whatever and whenever you communicate, it will be better recieved if you communications are consistent with the expectations you've created. Again, just my two cents. I look forward to your next update.




I agree. No slight on DOW or the products, just disappointed in the communication.
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Tue, 10 April 2007 19:30
If they have nothing to say, they have nothing to say or report. I dont want to read, "sorry nothing today" on the blog once a week. Eric and company (even Richard) have always been very open and forthcoming with way more information than they are obligated to share. Give them a break, let them catch up. This is one of the biggest games they have released to date and they have a large new population of gamers to keep up with. Let them have some time to get it out. I have the blog on my favorites, it's one click for me everyday to see if there is anything new, really not that much on our part.
      
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Attention, Dow people! Wed, 11 April 2007 09:54
Thanks, Eric for posting the BL Hills LoSA Official BattleLore Line of Sight Examples.

But there are still a few situations that you didn't cover where it is unclear whether there is line of sight. For example, where there is more than one hill hex in-between the archers, and also if the hills are all connected, but there is a gap or two between the archers on the same elevated terrain area.


I have posted a scenario, in the Fan Adventures section, of examples of elevated terrain where I find the line of sight is unclear:

1495U More Questions about elevated terrain!

Someone from Dow, please officially clarify these as concerning line-of-sight. Thank you.

Jude
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Wed, 11 April 2007 14:56
Jude, If I understadn your question, both of these situation are already explained in the example:

Jude wrote on Wed, 11 April 2007 02:54

For example, where there is more than one hill hex in-between the archers, and also if the hills are all connected, but there is a gap or two between the archers on the same elevated terrain area.

If there is any number of hill hexes between the two archers, also on the same hill, and they are all connected, with no other obstructions, then they have line of site. This is covered by Example F. Only 1 hill is shown to save space. But if this specifica condisition exists and the units are in range of each other, then they would still have LOS. So there could be up to 3 hills between them, and Exmple F is still applicable giving them LOS.

If they are both on a hill with no other obstructions between them, then Example E is still in effect. Same principle as above, you go go up to 3 empty hexes between the two hilss (so they remain withing range) and still have LOS.

If one of these archers has a hill in front of him (while both standing on a hill themselves) but there is a break in the continuity, Example D is in effect. There is no LOS.

the examples are just there for reference and only show 3 or 4 hexes total to save space. The rules themselves are written below the graphic. Everything I said above fralls in line with the written text and should be the way this is interpreted.

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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Wed, 11 April 2007 15:56
No offence, ColtsFan76, but I'd still like to get an official answer. What you wrote is one interpretation, but it is not stated officially anywhere that:

--More than one hill hex of the same elevated terrain area in between 2 units still allows LOS if there is no blocking terrain in between the units;

--A series of hill hexes, connected, but with a gap, don't allow LOS across the gap, if there is no blocking terrain in between the units.

--The other situation that I was attempting to show in the examples I made in
1495U More Questions about elevated terrain!
is:
What if the hill area is connected, but the LOS runs along a hexside where there is a connected hill on one side, but a clear area on the other?

It could instead be interpreted that only 1 (adjacent) hill hex can be between 2 units on the same elevated terrain area. I believe this is how many players were interpreting it, taking "adjacent" in the rules to mean only the next hex.

It could also be interpreted that any series of connected hill hexes allow LOS to any other ones in the connected area, as long as there is no other blocking terrain.

That is why we need an official clarification. Unless you are aware of one that I am not, that clears this up? If so, please post a link. Thanks.

Jude
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Wed, 11 April 2007 17:07
No offense taken and hopefully none given to you from me either!

However, what makes you think this doesn't cover your answer already?

Quote:

Example D: Neither archer unit has line of sight. The standard banner archer unit cannot see over the front hills (first rank of hills) to the second rank of the hill. The pennant banner archer unit cannot see past the front hill hexes to the standard banner archer unit.

Example E: Both archer units have line of sight. The units although not on the same hill have line of sight because there is nothing between the two hills that would block their line of sight.

Example F: Both archer units have line of sight. The units are on the same series of contiguous hill hexes and therefore the units have line of sight.


Where does the text limit the gaps? The visual examples themselves are just there to further clarify the written examples. I take the written examples as having the precedence.

I am also basing this off of M44 - there was some question when this (the BL LOS) was first discussed that maybe it changed the way we are to interpret LOS. But now that this has come out, it looks like it is squarely in line with M44.

As to your Scenario: I believe Example J by Example F. They are continuou hill hexes along the LOS path. But you can wait for official confirmation.

Example K is already addressed by Example D and you can sprinkle in I for good measure. Even though the hills are continouos, they are not continuous over the LOS path. Example D already shows that a gap in the mountains, when the units are not on the first set of hills, blocks LOS. But i will conceed this one probably needs official DOW confirmation.

Example L needs no explantion. This one is covered by both the rules and Example E already. LOS goes along the side hex of the hill in between. Since the right side is clear, it doesn't matter what is on the left side. Replace the middle hill with the edge of the board (which has already been confirmed to block LOS) and you have the exact same situation as E.

Example M falls under the same category as Example K. You have a continuous hill but across the LOS path, it is broken. A hill in between spaced by two gaps blocks LOS. This will be ruled the same way as Example K.

I think we will see that the rule of thumb is that if the hill hexes remain continuous along the LOS path, that LOS will be maintained. If something breaks it along the way, the LOS is lost if anything else is in the way. But we can wait for DOW to confirm that.
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Wed, 11 April 2007 17:48
Since this thread has gotten way off topic, I was afraid DOW wasn't checking on it in order to answer Jude's questions. I emailed Eric and he said he sent it off to Richard to look into. Hopefully we will see something soon.
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Wed, 11 April 2007 22:31
Hi Jude
How Line of Sight works is always fun to try and explain ;o)

I believe that our example F presented and your Example J are similar just a few more hexes between the two archer units. "Both archer units have line of sight. The units are on the same series of contiguous hill hexes and therefore the units have line of sight."

Your example L is covered in the rules p.21. "When the imaginary line runs along the edge of one or several hexes which contain obstructions, the line of sight is not blocked, unless the obstructions stand somewhere along both sides of the line segment."

As for your other two hill examples K and M, let me first say that the hill arrangement of each is very unique.

Basically we have always played that line of sight is not blocked when units are at the same height and on the same hill (plateau effect). But in your examples even though the units are on the same hill, the line of sight between the two units does not have a series of contiguous hill hexes (the LOS has gaps) therefore the units do not have line of sight in your examples K and M.

Thanks
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Thu, 12 April 2007 05:18
RBorg wrote on Wed, 11 April 2007 16:31

Hi Jude
How Line of Sight works is always fun to try and explain ;o)

I believe that our example F presented and your Example J are similar just a few more hexes between the two archer units. "Both archer units have line of sight. The units are on the same series of contiguous hill hexes and therefore the units have line of sight."

Your example L is covered in the rules p.21. "When the imaginary line runs along the edge of one or several hexes which contain obstructions, the line of sight is not blocked, unless the obstructions stand somewhere along both sides of the line segment."

As for your other two hill examples K and M, let me first say that the hill arrangement of each is very unique.

Basically we have always played that line of sight is not blocked when units are at the same height and on the same hill (plateau effect). But in your examples even though the units are on the same hill, the line of sight between the two units does not have a series of contiguous hill hexes (the LOS has gaps) therefore the units do not have line of sight in your examples K and M.

Thanks
Richard Borg



Thank you, Richard Borg. That is clear and quite helpful. Sorry for coming up with such strange examples, but I guess I am good at that! Smile

So clear terrain of a lower elevation is definitely considered an obstruction to LOS between two units on hill terrain, even if those hill terrain hexes can trace an elevated path to each other via a different route. But in example L, there is LOS because the path is traced along a hill hexside, and there are clear hexsides only along one side of the LOS line.

I will modify my example scenario to incorporate your answers.

Thanks, again.

Jude
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Thu, 12 April 2007 05:25
ColtsFan76 wrote on Wed, 11 April 2007 11:07



I think we will see that the rule of thumb is that if the hill hexes remain continuous along the LOS path, that LOS will be maintained. If something breaks it along the way, the LOS is lost if anything else is in the way. But we can wait for DOW to confirm that.


That is a good way of stating it. I will add that (unless you object) to my examples of LOS scenario, also.

Jude
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Thu, 12 April 2007 13:32
Jude wrote on Wed, 11 April 2007 22:25

ColtsFan76 wrote on Wed, 11 April 2007 11:07



I think we will see that the rule of thumb is that if the hill hexes remain continuous along the LOS path, that LOS will be maintained. If something breaks it along the way, the LOS is lost if anything else is in the way. But we can wait for DOW to confirm that.


That is a good way of stating it. I will add that (unless you object) to my examples of LOS scenario, also.

Jude


By all means, if it is helpful to you and others, please use it!
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Fri, 13 April 2007 00:38
The updates just kinda stopped..............
      
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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Fri, 13 April 2007 19:20
player142544 wrote on Fri, 13 April 2007 00:38

The updates just kinda stopped..............

You can stop counting days now Rolling Eyes Wink

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Re:36 days and finally a new blog post! Fri, 13 April 2007 19:47
Well, some of us weren't quite as impatient, and it was worth the wait! I'm very excited about Call to Arms after reading the ruleset and eagerly await it in the next couple weeks. Thank you guys for everything so far, this game keeps exceeding expectations!
      
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Re:36 days and finally a new blog post! Fri, 13 April 2007 22:29
"...a Dwarven Battalion and a Goblin Skirmishers set. These packs introduce new units to the game, along with the Specialist and Weapon summary cards necessary to field them."

It sounds great!!
My question is: Do we need more than 1 blister of each? I mean, is it enough buying one blister of each type? Will each blister have only a unit of every type included, thus needing 2 blisters to get two units of say, axe-dwarfmen? If it is so, then I can see myself buying LOTS of blisters... Sad for my money Smile for my gaming...
      
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Re:36 days and finally a new blog post! Sat, 14 April 2007 00:10
This is purely speculation.

What we know:
1) We know that the Specialist expansion will cost approximately $20 (and they are more boxed than blister).
2) Memoir 44 Expansions cost around $20 each, IIRC
3) 2 of the 3 M44 Expansions came with 72 and 66 plastic miniatures each, plus 22 double-sided hexes and other goodies

Assumptions:
1) The BL:S expansions look to only include the specialist cards as "other goodies"
2) Since there is less "cardboard," there may be more "plastic" but a minimum of 68~72 miniatures is probably a safe bet. Thats approximately 17 to 18 4-figure units. That would probably give you a good 3~4 types of unit per pack with multiple units of each type.

I would say it is safe to assume that one specialist pack will have enough specific units to satisfy your gaming needs. Probably enough for an Epic battle also unless you plan on fielding all Dwarves vs. all Goblins. Then 2 of each pack might be required. But that is just my twisted logic.
      
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Re:36 days and finally a new blog post! Sat, 14 April 2007 04:37
Thanks for the info Surprised . I'm not that acquinted with Memoir 44, so I was just guessing.
If it's as you say, I think that's the best option, as it's cheaper and tidier(all you need from a given expansion is in the expansion itself).
Now that you mention it, I think DOW stated some time ago that there will be blisters(small ones) available ONLY from their website. I assume these could well be single units.
      
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Re:36 days and finally a new blog post! Sun, 15 April 2007 01:34
Actually, the assumptions are incorrect, for a number of reasons (bigger, more expensive minis than in M44, greater number of different sculpts, higher price for M44 expansions, banner costs, etc..). But we'll get to it once we start getting into the details of the Specialist packs.

For now, I am in Yosemite with a spotty connection so these things will have to wait a bit though. Razz

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Re:36 days and finally a new blog post! Sun, 15 April 2007 07:54

I just checked out the picture for the dwarven battalion expansion and the figures that it features. It's nice to see that DOW are furthering the stereotype that short men have big swords Laughing
      
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Re:36 days and finally a new blog post! Sun, 15 April 2007 10:31
huskydog wrote on Sun, 15 April 2007 06:54


I just checked out the picture for the dwarven battalion expansion and the figures that it features. It's nice to see that DOW are furthering the stereotype that short men have big swords Laughing


As I've often said before: There is nothing worn under my Dwarfs' kilts; it's all in perfect working order.
      
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Re:36 days and finally a new blog post! Sun, 15 April 2007 23:36
Our Size simply is used for otherthings rather that
mere height.Thats basically why we get all the Elf Chicks Twisted Evil


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Re:No blog post for 30 days? Next up: Single-unit Blister Info? Mon, 23 April 2007 04:44
Jude wrote on Wed, 11 April 2007 23:18

RBorg wrote on Wed, 11 April 2007 16:31

Hi Jude
How Line of Sight works is always fun to try and explain ;o)

I believe that our example F presented and your Example J are similar just a few more hexes between the two archer units. "Both archer units have line of sight. The units are on the same series of contiguous hill hexes and therefore the units have line of sight."

Your example L is covered in the rules p.21. "When the imaginary line runs along the edge of one or several hexes which contain obstructions, the line of sight is not blocked, unless the obstructions stand somewhere along both sides of the line segment."

As for your other two hill examples K and M, let me first say that the hill arrangement of each is very unique.

Basically we have always played that line of sight is not blocked when units are at the same height and on the same hill (plateau effect). But in your examples even though the units are on the same hill, the line of sight between the two units does not have a series of contiguous hill hexes (the LOS has gaps) therefore the units do not have line of sight in your examples K and M.

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Richard Borg



Thank you, Richard Borg. That is clear and quite helpful. Sorry for coming up with such strange examples, but I guess I am good at that! Smile

So clear terrain of a lower elevation is definitely considered an obstruction to LOS between two units on hill terrain, even if those hill terrain hexes can trace an elevated path to each other via a different route. But in example L, there is LOS because the path is traced along a hill hexside, and there are clear hexsides only along one side of the LOS line.

I will modify my example scenario to incorporate your answers.

Thanks, again.

Jude



Actually, I think maybe I misunderstood the answer to my Example L! There IS LOS because there is a contiguous hill between the units, and there would still be LOS, even if the clear terrain hex along one side was blocking terrain instead (like woods or a unit) because it is only along one side. For some reason, I had interpreted Richard Borg's reply to mean that there was no LOS in Example L!

So, clear terrain of a lower elevation is NOT considered an obstruction to LOS between two units on hill terrain, so long as there is no blocking terrain (including another hill hex) between them (see example E in BL Hills LoSA Official BattleLore Line of Sight Example), or if there is only blocking terrain along one hexside (see Example L in 1495U More Questions about elevated terrain!).

Does this seem right to everyone? Sorry about the confusion.

Jude
      
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Re:36 days and finally a new blog post! Mon, 14 May 2007 15:56
i surpose i will need an elfs extended life span before i get an elf expantion. or a dragon or enything Crying or Very Sad Crying or Very Sad Dead
      
    
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