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Welcome to new Colonels! Fri, 10 June 2011 17:53
Edit: This thread was becoming too unwieldy for soldiers moving up the ladder to figure out the Colonel promotion requirements. I have moved that to a new thread entitled Colonel Promotion - 2012. If you are interested in reading my "diary" to the promotion of colonel, read on -- but if you just want the requirements pleae go to the other thread. Enjoy! -- Geoff

Sorry to start another promotion thread, but the last one was sidetracked and becoming long...

In any case, I think the first part of the Colonel requirements (seen -- and won -- it all) means that you must win every scenario from both sides. I've been lucky enough to accomplish that.

The second part clearly refers to playing cadets. My count may be a little off, but by analyzing the online records (which is made difficult because the record reflects a player's current rank and not the rank at the time you played them) i have the following numbers.

I have played a total of 45 games against 26 different cadets, since my promotion to Lt. Colonel!

Either I'm missing another requirement or we have to play an even larger number of games against cadets.

Just wanted to share my progress with the other Lt. Colonels out there bucking for a promotion. Smile

Geoff

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 10 June 2011 19:10
Depending on how you count multiple versions of certain scenarios, the database lists over 200 official scenarios, and new ones are added with some regularity. Once all of the official scenarios are available in M-Online, playing and winning all of them from both sides would seem onerous for a Colonel promotion.

Could it involve winning the difficult side of lopsided scenarios?
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 10 June 2011 20:05
I have won every Mission from either side, I have no idea about the Cadets but I have played a few in my time.

Could it not be introducing new people to the game?
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 10 June 2011 20:50
PFC Jökull wrote on Fri, 10 June 2011 14:05

I have won every Mission from either side, I have no idea about the Cadets but I have played a few in my time.

Could it not be introducing new people to the game?


Well, it's clearly not recruiting people to the game -- since the Band of Brothers Achievement was started. Do you mean playing the first game against a cadet?

If that's what you mean, I have been the first opponent for 10 different cadets since promotion to Lt. Colonel.

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 05:38
Well, after tonight I'm at 54 games played against 31 different cadets since making Lt. Colonel.

I must have missed something, I can't believe that's not enough games against cadets.

Maybe we'll know more after someone gets promoted.

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 06:13
i'd like to know how you get Band of Brothers achievement, you have sent 5 invitation and they enrolled, but do they have to play at least 1 multiplayer game or ?
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 06:19
The recruits just have to enroll. They don't have to play any games to count as recruits. You can check their status if you click on Band of Brothers at the M'44 online webpage.

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 07:33
I don't know, but I'm getting increasingly concerned about the unintended consequence of all this.

We experienced players are challenging the newbies to games, and usually beating them, often handily. As somebody else noted, some of the Cadets are deciding that high-ranking players should be avoided -- especially in even scenarios. This evening, three cadets left potential games when they saw me there (and I know I showered earlier this year).
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 09:07
I wondered about this too. Rolling Eyes I know that I would be kind of intimidated to play against someone with 1,000 games played when I first started...

Could the expectation be that you play cadets as the underdog in battle like Omaha? I know that I sometimes do that with my friends to give them some confidence.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 11:45
rasmussen81 wrote on Sat, 11 June 2011 03:07

I wondered about this too. Rolling Eyes I know that I would be kind of intimidated to play against someone with 1,000 games played when I first started...

Could the expectation be that you play cadets as the underdog in battle like Omaha? I know that I sometimes do that with my friends to give them some confidence.


I agree with the concerns. The key is to introduce yourself (of course, if they leave right away that's impossible) in the right way. I start by asking if they've played the board game or if they are new to the game. I tell them that I've played alot and to let me know if they have any questions. Third, i ask if they would like any strategy tips along the way or if we should talk after the game.

If they have 0 games, i always invite for Pegasus Bridge and take the Axis. 1-3 games, then I'll try Sword Beach (Allies) or St. Mere Eglise (Axis). I meet several great new players last night -- they were very talkative and glad to have a few strategy tips.

If this is done the right way, it works well -- and I hope that i've shown them that it's a great game and a good community.

But after several days, I'm getting tired of these same old battles. I'll take a break for a few days and see if someone else gets promoted, then I can figure out the other requirements I hope.

Geoff
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 13:19
Perhaps the DoW guys could become a little more talkative and at least confirm how many different requirements need to be fulfilled for a promotion to Colonel (without revealing any details) ... or tell us how many Cadets we have to play against so that we can formulate some other strategies?
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 13:56
gheintze wrote on Fri, 10 June 2011 08:53


I have played a total of 45 games against 26 different cadets, since my promotion to Lt. Colonel!

Either I'm missing another requirement ....
Geoff


Yes I think you are (missing another requirement...). Cool

Making it to the higher ranks becomes increasingly difficult: we couldn't end up with an Army of Colonels, could we? Very Happy

In this particular case, you probably shouldn't expect so much from your earlier (ie pre-Lieutenant Colonel) fighting prowess...

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 14:09
eric wrote on Sat, 11 June 2011 13:56

gheintze wrote on Fri, 10 June 2011 08:53


I have played a total of 45 games against 26 different cadets, since my promotion to Lt. Colonel!

Either I'm missing another requirement ....
Geoff


Yes I think you are (missing another requirement...). Cool

Making it to the higher ranks becomes increasingly difficult: we couldn't end up with an Army of Colonels, could we? Very Happy

In this particular case, you probably shouldn't expect so much from your earlier (ie pre-Lieutenant Colonel) fighting prowess...




That makes sense, but at present we have an army of cadets and lt.colonels with too few officers in between Very Happy Very Happy

A suggestion: I think it would be interesting if there could be only 1 Maréchal/General of the Army for each country at a time,
So 7 all together. And that they had to be challenged to loose their position (or be absent from Mem44online for a preordained amount of time).
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 14:10
Oh and congrats on your two nifty Band of Brothers achievements, btw!
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 15:04
eric wrote on Sat, 11 June 2011 07:56

gheintze wrote on Fri, 10 June 2011 08:53


I have played a total of 45 games against 26 different cadets, since my promotion to Lt. Colonel!

Either I'm missing another requirement ....
Geoff


Yes I think you are (missing another requirement...). Cool

Making it to the higher ranks becomes increasingly difficult: we couldn't end up with an Army of Colonels, could we? Very Happy

In this particular case, you probably shouldn't expect so much from your earlier (ie pre-Lieutenant Colonel) fighting prowess...




Eric, thanks for your advice and congratulations. I will get back to work...

Glad you could chime in and give some guidance.

Geoff
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 15:45
Nygaard wrote on Sat, 11 June 2011 13:09

eric wrote on Sat, 11 June 2011 13:56

gheintze wrote on Fri, 10 June 2011 08:53


I have played a total of 45 games against 26 different cadets, since my promotion to Lt. Colonel!

Either I'm missing another requirement ....
Geoff


Yes I think you are (missing another requirement...). Cool

Making it to the higher ranks becomes increasingly difficult: we couldn't end up with an Army of Colonels, could we? Very Happy

In this particular case, you probably shouldn't expect so much from your earlier (ie pre-Lieutenant Colonel) fighting prowess...




That makes sense, but at present we have an army of cadets and lt.colonels with too few officers in between Very Happy Very Happy

A suggestion: I think it would be interesting if there could be only 1 Maréchal/General of the Army for each country at a time,
So 7 all together. And that they had to be challenged to loose their position (or be absent from Mem44online for a preordained amount of time).






Oh dear, that means winning Arnhem Bridge, First Assault Wave and the other more difficult games as the underdogs again!!!
(Lots more sleepless nights for me then!!!)


As to your idea of only 1 per country I think that would be very restrictive for me.
(Especially if you include the absentee suggestion)

As I work in the British merchant navy, internet time to play M44 on-line is restricted and very expensive, so I am normally AWOL for 3 or 4 months at a time.

Which means I have to play an awful lot when I am at home and have a VERY understanding wife and kids (I believe I have 3 of them)

if thats the requirment for Colonel just how much harder can you make it for the ranks that follow!!!!
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 16:09
I suspect that by virtue of each rank getting progressively more difficult (and requiring more and more time) there will be a decreasing pool of high ranked players. We can already see that the pool of people who have made Lt. Colonels is fairly small and it will be even smaller for people who make Colonel...and then there are 5 more ranks after that!!! Shocked

I don't think DoW will need to place restrictions on the number of people who reach General of the Army. The nature of the promotions will do that. Very Happy

I'm still searching for the time to examine my records to figure out what I need to be promoted to Lt. Colonel, let alone play the battles I still need. Smile
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 16:53
I've got twelve left to have won them all as a Lt. Colonel.

This will be difficult:
Axis -- Escape via Coastal Road, Toulon, Liberation of Paris, Arnhem Bridge, Arracourt, Red Barricades Factory, St. Vith
Allies -- First Armored to the Rescue, First Assault Wave, Gallabat and Metemma, Sidi Rezegh Airfield, and Dug in at Sidi Omar

Good luck to everyone! See you on the battlefield.

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 18:08
i wonder if this can be done. Only lower or same ranks are visible to one player, so Cadet can only see the rank of Cadet while other player's rank (and maybe game numbers) are unknown to them, this might be a solution to avoid any preliminary intimidation due to rank and game numbers, while higher rank players such as Captain can only see Captain and anything lower, but can't see the higher rank whether he's Major, or Lt. Colonel, or even General.

or even better, in battlefield, no one can see any ranks, so ranks are basically only for private achievement, or in forum knowledge.

and back to this BoB thing, i think i have my 5 invitees enrolled, but in the BoB page, i see them with yellow light (not green), is this because they haven't played multiplayer games or something wrong ?
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 18:29
Nightrain wrote on Sat, 11 June 2011 20:08

i wonder if this can be done. Only lower or same ranks are visible to one player, so Cadet can only see the rank of Cadet while other player's rank (and maybe game numbers) are unknown to them, this might be a solution to avoid any preliminary intimidation due to rank and game numbers, while higher rank players such as Captain can only see Captain and anything lower, but can't see the higher rank whether he's Major, or Lt. Colonel, or even General.

or even better, in battlefield, no one can see any ranks, so ranks are basically only for private achievement, or in forum knowledge.


Although this would keep new players from be 'scared' of playing more experienced players, I'm not sure I would like that. It's fun knowing who you're playing against and it's interesting to see the player's name with their rank before it. Hiding rank doesn't follow real military systems very well either...it would be a strange army that kept the high-ranking soldiers secret from the rest of the troops!! Laughing

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and back to this BoB thing, i think i have my 5 invitees enrolled, but in the BoB page, i see them with yellow light (not green), is this because they haven't played multiplayer games or something wrong ?


If 5 of your friends have signed up for the Online game, you'll get the Band of Brothers achievement after the next battle you play! Congratulations!! The circle by their name will turn green when they are promoted to Second Lieutenant and once three of your recruits are promoted, you get the Band of Brothers Instructor achievement. Cool

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 19:51
Did I get it right that we have to play and win again all 41 available scenarios as a Lieutenant Colonel? Confused
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 11 June 2011 19:55
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Did I get it right that we have to play and win again all 41 available scenarios as a Lieutenant Colonel? Confused


Well, Eric probably won't tell us outright, but that is my guess.

I'll give it a try and let you know what happens. Cool

Geoff
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 12 June 2011 16:54
I cry foul!

Those of us that recruited a "band of brothers" in good faith should be credited more than just a medal. I recruited 6 players, and at least 4 of them are active players.

If the requirement for promotion to Colonel are that we play cadets - fine, but then the point system needs to be changed to reflect that. Otherwise, we get dinged skill points because we're playing against lower ranked players.

As for having to replay and win every battle - well that's a good way to generate revenue, but it seems arduous. A better, and more representative of the leadership qulaities higher ranking officers are expected to play would be to credit the Lt. Colonel with the cumulative medals/points/victories his band of brothers acheives.

Also, I think if a cadet "buddies" with a Lt. Colonel that player should be able to count the cadet as part of his band. That way every Lt. Colonel could recruit his own band, even if it was from a player who has already signed up.

I'd appreciate DOW's feedback/comments on this one.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 12 June 2011 20:03
jamesherrell wrote on Sun, 12 June 2011 15:54

I cry foul!
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If the requirement for promotion to Colonel are that we play cadets - fine, but then the point system needs to be changed to reflect that. Otherwise, we get dinged skill points because we're playing against lower ranked players.


I don't agree. You get less points, but you're working your way up the ladder - there is a price for the promotion, that's all. Changing point system only because of this requirement seems exaggerated to me.

jamesherrell


As for having to replay and win every battle - well that's a good way to generate revenue, but it seems arduous. A better, and more representative of the leadership qulaities higher ranking officers are expected to play would be to credit the Lt. Colonel with the cumulative medals/points/victories his band of brothers acheives.


Again, I beg to differ: this solution would put the Lt. Colonel in no control whatsoever, regarding his promotion, since he would solely depend on others' performances.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 13 June 2011 04:30
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Although this would keep new players from be 'scared' of playing more experienced players, I'm not sure I would like that. It's fun knowing who you're playing against and it's interesting to see the player's name with their rank before it. Hiding rank doesn't follow real military systems very well either...it would be a strange army that kept the high-ranking soldiers secret from the rest of the troops!! Laughing



like i said, only an idea, we need something to make a conducive environment for new comers otherwise they will only spend the first free 50 and run away for good Very Happy

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If 5 of your friends have signed up for the Online game, you'll get the Band of Brothers achievement after the next battle you play! Congratulations!! The circle by their name will turn green when they are promoted to Second Lieutenant and once three of your recruits are promoted, you get the Band of Brothers Instructor achievement. Cool


i guess you're right, got it after a game!
now it's time to 'force' them for a promotion to get that Instructor thing Very Happy
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 13 June 2011 06:07
Turboheizer wrote on Sat, 11 June 2011 13:51

Did I get it right that we have to play and win again all 41 available scenarios as a Lieutenant Colonel? Confused


Well, i won them all as a Lt. Colonel and... nothing happened.

So, i'm missing something else I guess...

No idea what to do next.

Geoff
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 13 June 2011 08:21
Geoff have you won them all from both sides?

I have won all 41 since promotion to Lt Col but only 31 from both sides - working on the rest at the cost of my ranking points. Laughing Laughing Laughing 10 to go and counting down.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 13 June 2011 12:26
Phread wrote on Mon, 13 June 2011 02:21

Geoff have you won them all from both sides?

I have won all 41 since promotion to Lt Col but only 31 from both sides - working on the rest at the cost of my ranking points. Laughing Laughing Laughing 10 to go and counting down.


Yes, I've won all 41 battles from both sides since my promotion to Lt. Colonel.

My ranking actually went up significantly winning as the underdog all those times.

I'll be taking a break as I have no idea what to work towards at this point... just have to wait and see when someone gets promoted and analyze their record.

Geoff
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 13 June 2011 12:49
gheintze wrote on Mon, 13 June 2011 14:26

I'll be taking a break as I have no idea what to work towards at this point... just have to wait and see when someone gets promoted and analyze their record.

Geoff


Out of curiosity, what are you going to do when you've reached General of the Army? Rolling Eyes I playing just to play, but it sounds like you're more goal diven than I am...so what is going to be your goal after you've reached the top of the ranking ladder? Razz

I hope this isn't an offensive question because I'm really interested in the answer since it's a different focus than my own. I don't think you're the only one with this focus, Geoff, you're just the one I know. Very Happy
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 13 June 2011 13:14
rasmussen81 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2011 06:49

gheintze wrote on Mon, 13 June 2011 14:26

I'll be taking a break as I have no idea what to work towards at this point... just have to wait and see when someone gets promoted and analyze their record.

Geoff


Out of curiosity, what are you going to do when you've reached General of the Army? Rolling Eyes I playing just to play, but it sounds like you're more goal diven than I am...so what is going to be your goal after you've reached the top of the ranking ladder? Razz

I hope this isn't an offensive question because I'm really interested in the answer since it's a different focus than my own. I don't think you're the only one with this focus, Geoff, you're just the one I know. Very Happy


Well, I'll obviously keep playing at that point. But judging by how difficult it is to get to Colonel, I won't have to worry about that any time soon... Cool

I've managed to play many times and have a lot of fun so far (after all, i had won 70/82 before I even knew that could be a requirement) even when i wasn't worried about promotion, so I expect that will continue even after I've gotten to the top of the promotion ladder. I'll also keep going after achievements and I'm sure they will continue to release new battles to play.

I've let some other things slip as I pushed hard for the goal of winning all 82 as a Lt. Colonel. So I just need a few days to pay attention to other aspects of life...

So, it's not frustration (well, not too much Laughing )... just need to take care of some other priorities. Sorry, I didn't mean to sound annoyed.

And of course I'm not offended, Jesse. Thanks for making me clarify my position. Smile

BTW, yesterday my schedule was -- play M'44 online in the morning for awhile as we overslept and missed church, go to the games group I organize and play M'44 Overlord (Hedgerow Hell -- most excellent)and Olympus (awesome game from the designers of Kingsburg), come home and play more M'44 Online for the final push to win them all -- so I think I've earned a rest. Very Happy

Geoff

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 13 June 2011 21:07
OK, I know I said that I would let this drop...

But I love this game and the promotion to colonel is puzzling me.

So, I suspect that I won enough games against cadets (and Eric implied as much above).

Also, there has been some speculation in other threads that the rank of your opponent matters. But it is too hard to keep track of the rank of your opponent at the time you play them from the records, so I can't track this. Also, it would seem contrary to the idea that DoW wants us to play all players, regardless of rank, country of origin, etc...

Now, I've also won every scenario from both sides since my promotion to Lt. Colonel. Still no promotion...

Above, Eric said not to rely on you pre-Lt. Colonel career to earn the promotion to Colonel. Given the above information and taking into account the previous rank promotion criteria (side of the battle, front, etc..), I broke down my victory totals since earning Lt. Colonel

It's an astonishing (to me anyway) 185 victories against 120 defeats. And if I break them down by side and front location:

Eastern
Allies 16
Axis 13

Mediterranean
Allies 18
Axis 22

Pacific
Allies 26
Axis 15

Western
Allies 34
Axis 41

Total Allies - 94; Total Axis - 91

It looks like I'm a little light on Axis Eastern Front victories. I guess my next move is to try to move the victory totals past 15 and then 20 in an even manner to see what the magic requirement is.

I certainly hope that I'm on the right track...

Geoff

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 13 June 2011 22:33
In my opinion, Geoff deserves another hint. He has done everything he could have reasonably done, and even fulfilled the originally intended "Band of Brothers"-requirement. If you continue poking about in a fog, you will eventually start losing your motivation.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 13 June 2011 23:00
Turboheizer wrote on Mon, 13 June 2011 16:33

In my opinion, Geoff deserves another hint. He has done everything he could have reasonably done, and even fulfilled the originally intended "Band of Brothers"-requirement. If you continue poking about in a fog, you will eventually start losing your motivation.


Thanks for your support, Turbo. Smile

Hopefully, once I find my way through the fog, it will be easier for others to follow. Very Happy

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 14 June 2011 02:58
gheintze wrote on Tue, 14 June 2011 01:00

Turboheizer wrote on Mon, 13 June 2011 16:33

In my opinion, Geoff deserves another hint. He has done everything he could have reasonably done, and even fulfilled the originally intended "Band of Brothers"-requirement. If you continue poking about in a fog, you will eventually start losing your motivation.


Thanks for your support, Turbo. Smile

Hopefully, once I find my way through the fog, it will be easier for others to follow. Very Happy

Geoff


If anyone can be the lead scout and find the path for others, it's Geoff. I have faith that he will figure out the requirements and then guide the rest of the troops to greatness and promotion! Very Happy

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 14 June 2011 03:03
rasmussen81 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2011 20:58

gheintze wrote on Tue, 14 June 2011 01:00

Turboheizer wrote on Mon, 13 June 2011 16:33

In my opinion, Geoff deserves another hint. He has done everything he could have reasonably done, and even fulfilled the originally intended "Band of Brothers"-requirement. If you continue poking about in a fog, you will eventually start losing your motivation.


Thanks for your support, Turbo. Smile

Hopefully, once I find my way through the fog, it will be easier for others to follow. Very Happy

Geoff


If anyone can be the lead scout and find the path for others, it's Geoff. I have faith that he will figure out the requirements and then guide the rest of the troops to greatness and promotion! Very Happy

Good luck!! Cool


The eternal optimism and positive attitude of Jesse has buoyed my spirits. I'm online right now trying to pick up a few more wins!

Geoff

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 14 June 2011 03:05
gheintze wrote on Tue, 14 June 2011 05:03

The eternal optimism and positive attitude of Jesse has buoyed my spirts. I'm online right now trying to pick up a few more wins!

Geoff


Very Happy I'm glad to help! Where there's a will, there's a way...and you definitely have the will!!! Cool
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 14 June 2011 04:25
well you know Geoff, in real life, promotion isn't as easy as winning battles or gaining achievement i guess.

There is a certain internal requirement that even we, as employee, don't know, or as an employer, we don't need to disclose everything to our employees, right ? Very Happy

i guess we just keep playing for fun, because that's the spirit we need to keep and cause we love this game Cool

but kudos on your great work and wonderful winning ratio Smile
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 14 June 2011 06:26
Nightrain wrote on Mon, 13 June 2011 22:25

well you know Geoff, in real life, promotion isn't as easy as winning battles or gaining achievement i guess.

There is a certain internal requirement that even we, as employee, don't know, or as an employer, we don't need to disclose everything to our employees, right ? Very Happy

i guess we just keep playing for fun, because that's the spirit we need to keep and cause we love this game Cool

but kudos on your great work and wonderful winning ratio Smile


Nighttrain, thanks for the compliments.

Of course, we play just because M'44 is fun. But I can play that on my board at home. Part of the additional fun with the online game is chasing the achievements and promotions, at least for me. That is an additional challenge that I can't get with the boardgame.

Some of the achievements require you to adjust your strategy, which is also an interesting challenge that improves your game by making you look at it in a new or different way.

In any case, I know this isn't real life (or else my monitor would be bloodstained and battle scarred by now Smile), but it is sometimes frustrating not knowing whether you are making any progress at all. The same holds true at work -- if your employer would let you know exactly what to do, you would be able to do your job more efficiently.

Obviously, DoW can do what they want with the promotions -- give more information or less -- after all it's their game. I'm just trying to share my progress (and hope others will share theirs) so that we can figure out what needs to be accomplished. People can look at this thread or not, if they would rather be surprised.

On that note, 15 on each front for each side is not the magic number. But I'm approaching 200 wins as a Lt. Colonel. Very Happy

Geoff

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 14 June 2011 07:19
gheintze wrote on Tue, 14 June 2011 08:26


(snip)but it is sometimes frustrating not knowing whether you are making any progress at all. The same holds true at work -- if your employer would let you know exactly what to do, you would be able to do your job more efficiently.


I think this is the key to the frustration (however minor) that you're having with the promotion system and with some of the achievements. Not that there is anything wrong with your approach, but you want to have a recipe outlining what steps you need to take, while DoW is providing clues to a puzzle. Smile All of the threads about promotion requirements are attempts at creating the recipe for players who want that, which I think is fine.

So the natural question becomes: "Would it be better for DoW to provide a detailed explanation of exactly what is required for each promotion and achievement?" Obviously answers will vary depending on your point of view. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Geoff would like the details so that, like at work, he can do his job (of being promoted) more efficiently. Very Happy

I'm not sure what I think about the question. I kind of like the mystery involved but for me the promotions and achievements are just icing on the cake and I don't mind stumbling onto them by accident. Cool It's an interesting question, though, and will have many different answers!
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 14 June 2011 13:18
rasmussen81 wrote on Tue, 14 June 2011 01:19


So the natural question becomes: "Would it be better for DoW to provide a detailed explanation of exactly what is required for each promotion and achievement?" Obviously answers will vary depending on your point of view. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Geoff would like the details so that, like at work, he can do his job (of being promoted) more efficiently. Very Happy



I don't really want or need the exact recipe, as that would make the answer too easy for everyone. I agree that the mystery is some of the charm.

But when I'm out of ideas, it would at least be nice to know if we're on the right track. Hopefully, some other Lt. Colonels are farther along in other areas (already have 200 wins or something else) and can prove or disprove theories.

I think it would be neat if we could work together as a community to solve the problem.

My concern is that the requirement is something that I could never actually figure out, like that you need to win all of the scenarios against players other than cadets. That is a requirement that you could never stumble upon (and would be next to impossible to figure out). In order to complete that you would have to work specifically towards that goal -- but without at least a nudge in the right direction, you would never get there.

In any case, I'm still having fun playing... so if the promotion comes, it comes. I've no idea what to work towards, so I'm just going to continue to do what I do -- play against all comers and see what happens.

Last night, I was able to play with someone and have a great discussion about strategy and what he should think about to improve. It's nice to see someone get better as you are playing four games with them and now I have a friend in Colorado. Smile

So, that's another great part of the online game -- being able to help others improve.

Good luck to all!

Geoff

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