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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 11 March 2012 03:03
JJs Juggernaut wrote on Sun, 11 March 2012 01:42

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I also can agree that you don't need those wins in at least 4 differnt battles in each side (I only had 3 in my allied statistics for the Eastern front).
...

Are you sure is like that?
Anyway, those victories started to count since I have been promoted to Mayor or all victories ever?
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 11 March 2012 03:55
Mr Syky please start reading this thread from the 1st post.

You will find your question is answered early in this thread.

      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 11 March 2012 04:06
Syky wrote on Sat, 10 March 2012 21:03

JJs Juggernaut wrote on Sun, 11 March 2012 01:42

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I also can agree that you don't need those wins in at least 4 differnt battles in each side (I only had 3 in my allied statistics for the Eastern front).
...

Are you sure is like that?
Anyway, those victories started to count since I have been promoted to Mayor or all victories ever?


Yes I am sure, and only victories since the promotion to Major count. As Phread says, the proof is in this thread.
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 18 March 2012 22:04
Mr. Phread and Mr. Juggernaut,
I already read all the pages here (Was like reading War and Peace Laughing ). I was just surprised, that you don't need to play various scenarios. Most of the people mentioned here, that you need to playmore scenarios on all the theaters.
Anyway, thanks for investigation and sharing the information here to all of you guys! Cool

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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sat, 19 May 2012 02:24
No one has posted on this fpor a while, but I think we might want to bump it
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Tue, 03 July 2012 05:26
Hi all,

I won on all maps, so both sides,and more than 20 wins on every map,432 plays, and still I am a Major Sad
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Tue, 03 July 2012 06:12
GoekaWar wrote on Tue, 03 July 2012 05:26

Hi all,

I won on all maps, so both sides,and more than 20 wins on every map,432 plays, and still I am a Major Sad

I will try to help you, some questions:
Do you have ten wins as Axis and ten wins as Allies in each theatre? ( not counting the newer ones, see first post)
Has all this been after your promotion to Major? (previous wins do not count here)

If so then you might try this (speculations not certainties):
Play more Majors
Play more different ranks

And remember above all to enjoy the game and have fun!
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Tue, 03 July 2012 06:33
Furthermore I have added the four new scenarios: Utah Beach, Gold Beach, Carentan Causeway and Operation Goodwood to the list of not counting scenarios.

Good luck to all promotion hunters. Smile
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Tue, 03 July 2012 06:53
Wait - Operation Goodwood? Not Operation Spring, or both?
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Tue, 03 July 2012 06:59
I said added Wink Operation Spring and Knightsbridge were in there alteady.

For completeness I will quote from the first post:

excluding the following scenarios (wins in these scenarios do not count for the 80 victories):
Western: Operation Spring, Operation Goodwood, Utah Beach, Carentan Causeway, Gold Beach
Eastern: Warsaw and Rhez
Mediterranian: Gallabat&Metemma, Montélimar, Toulon, Tunisia and Knightsbridge
Pacific: none known to me

      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Tue, 03 July 2012 23:55
Thanks - I had not picked up Goodwood from previous posts...
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Wed, 04 July 2012 02:13
If you win all the maps as Axis & allies you got more then 20 wins, for instance, Western, excluding the ones that do not count, you have 32 wins, or does the counting go like this?
You have to win from 1 scenario,for instance St.Vith 10 x Axis and 10 x Allies? Confused
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Wed, 04 July 2012 02:56
No

Should be 10 x as each side on each front.

In the ones that count
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Wed, 04 July 2012 02:57
That can be 10 x in 1 scenario, or once each in 10.

So far as we know, I don't think anyone has tried only playing one scenario and getting 10 wins in it
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Fri, 06 July 2012 03:02
Look I have for instance now 7 wins for First assault wave for Axis, so I need 3 more, for Axis, then I got for instance for Alies 6 wins on St mere Eglise,so I need 3 wins on a other front? Or if I win 10 lonely fronts I can count them as 10 too?
Confused
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Fri, 06 July 2012 09:34
These are mere speculations of "how to become a lt colonel" :

- 10 wins each side each front, on a few different maps (4-5) per front & side AFTER becoming major (that's 80 wins at least, after becoming major) ; some maps do not count (Utah, Gold, Goodwood, Carentan, Spring for western front / Knightsbridge for desert, & possibly Gallabat - Montelimar - Toulon - Tunisia / possibly Rhzev & Warsaw for eastern front) ;

- playing (about ? , at least ?) 20-25 cadets, some of them (10 ?) have to be promoted afterwards (i.e. I guess it's to prevent people for creating false ID and win one game vs a kind of decoy) ;
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Fri, 06 July 2012 23:10
GoekaWar wrote on Fri, 06 July 2012 02:02

Look I have for instance now 7 wins for First assault wave for Axis, so I need 3 more, for Axis, then I got for instance for Alies 6 wins on St mere Eglise,so I need 3 wins on a other front? Or if I win 10 lonely fronts I can count them as 10 too?
Confused



Nein, nein, nein


It is "Front" (Western, Eastern, Pacific, Med)

Not "Battle"

Clearer?
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Fri, 06 July 2012 23:30
Can van Voort save Goeka 15% or more on getting to Lt Col?

Yes.

In those that count:

Western 38 AL / 32 AX (You can stop playing here)

Pacific 12 AL / 12 AX (You can stop playing here too)

Eastern 8 AL / 14 AX

Med 14 AL / 13 AX (You can stop playing here too)


So you need 2 more allied victories in the East (not at Warsaw or Ryzev)

Report back to me when you are done



Offer void in Nebraska

van Voort is just some guy on the Internet


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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Fri, 06 July 2012 23:32
silenttimo wrote on Fri, 06 July 2012 08:34

These are mere speculations of "how to become a lt colonel" :

- 10 wins each side each front, on a few different maps (4-5) per front & side AFTER becoming major (that's 80 wins at least, after becoming major) ; some maps do not count (Utah, Gold, Goodwood, Carentan, Spring for western front / Knightsbridge for desert, & possibly Gallabat - Montelimar - Toulon - Tunisia / possibly Rhzev & Warsaw for eastern front) ;


Try page 1 of the thread. Everything before full Col is based on lifetime achivement across all ranks (I think that is true even of Captain to Major)

Quote:


- playing (about ? , at least ?) 20-25 cadets, some of them (10 ?) have to be promoted afterwards (i.e. I guess it's to prevent people for creating false ID and win one game vs a kind of decoy) ;


That is for full Col, not LtCol.

And we are not too sure about cadets needing to promote off you

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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sat, 07 July 2012 00:59
Tx Van Voort, I will inform you about the progress. Smile
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sat, 07 July 2012 14:22
Yes Geoka - report in after you dump the dirt from the Western Theater from your boots, and have sharpened up your cold weather skills...

( Cold Weather training @ Camp Ripley MN anyone?... )

"Western 38 AL / 32 AX (You can stop playing here)"

Funny sh*t !!
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 08 July 2012 00:42
Won 2x Suomussalmi,with Allies still Major.

Will continue with Allies in in Eastern.
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 08 July 2012 01:49
Yep, sorry Van Voort. You're right.

However, I remember someting about "beating your peers", meaning you have to beat other majors, ain't it right ?


To Goekawar : I really think it's not very "fair-play" to play vs cadets on Red Barricade Factory... Very Happy

That's me, but I used to only play cadets on western front and "no more rules than western front" maps (Tunisia, Montelimar, Gallabat, Toulon).
The only exception is joining an open game, finding a cadet waiting to play japs, russians or ergs ! Cool

And about RBF, I never invited someone with less than 60 games, asking most of the time (when my opponent did have less than about a 100 games) "do you know that map ?".
It's so tricky, technical and complex, that it would have meant no glory beating a cadet or 6-games 2nd lieutenant on that one.
I even remember playing vs a major (IIRC) who DID NOT know the map, obviously, and was so upset during the game (complexity, mines, snipers, anti-tanks obstacles, medals on buildings..., I still don't know) that he did throw a damaged tank on mines, just to finish the game, when I was leading 9-x.

However, that's me... Rolling Eyes

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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 08 July 2012 02:59
Odd, you ought to be there if it is truly lifetime victories as I believed

However, I went and checked my own record as Major, I was promoted after with 10 victories on each side in the Pacific as a Major

So it looks like I owe Silentimo an apology


You are, as a Major:

West AL 21 AX 14 (You can still stop playing here)
Eeat AL 5 AX 10 (Need Allies)
Med AL 8 AX 11 (Need Allies)
Pac AL 11 AX 7 (Need Axis)


van Voort not responsible for any extra fun you have playing unecessary games in the course of your promotion.

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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 08 July 2012 04:09
@ van Voort, so this night total 3 Suomussalmi, 1 Ponyri,1 Lisjanka All Allies wins.
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 08 July 2012 04:35
2 in the Med as Allies (in the right ones) and you should be done
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 08 July 2012 14:32
May be a non issue at this point, but having kept records, I am certain that it is 10 / side / theater AS a Major...
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 08 July 2012 19:23
@ van Voort, Hellfirepass, Dug in Sidi Omar, Escape to Coastal road, all win for Allies, no results.
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 08 July 2012 21:12
trentdep wrote on Sun, 08 July 2012 14:32

May be a non issue at this point, but having kept records, I am certain that it is 10 / side / theater AS a Major...

I agree, for Lt. Colonel you need to all this after becoming a Major.

And it is never a non issue. Smile Maybe this promotionseeker has been helped, but there will be more!

@Goekawar, if you have ten wins in each front as each side and are not promoted. Hunt for your peers, fight other Majors and maybe ranks above that. As said before we still do not know everything there is to know about this promotion.

Check your career and report back to us. Good luck with it!

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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 08 July 2012 21:58
I will give up on this, it makes no sense,if there is no guideline,you never know when you are promoted.Or must I win again 2 East, 2 Med? What a mess....
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 08 July 2012 23:04
The idea that requirements for promotion were not publicized in a specific, step by step manner *is* perhaps unique ( ish ) to Memoir as far as on line gaming goes, but it does mirror the real world - at least the military...

Goeka : Start a list - you'll probably not need it more than a few days. Van Voort has done a lot of looking at the records for you - just start where he left off as of 7/7 @ 22:09


West AL 21 AX 14 (You can still stop playing here)
Eeat AL 5 AX 10 (Need Allies)
Med AL 8 AX 11 (Need Allies)
Pac AL 11 AX 7 (Need Axis)

This was just before you posted ( it is possible he counted one or two of these wins ): "so this night total 3 Suomussalmi, 1 Ponyri,1 Lisjanka All Allies wins."

At any rate, that would have left you + 5 Eastern Allied wins, but still short 2 Med Allies, 3 Pacific Axis...

Your next post was 3 x wins in Med as Allies... Should have left you 3 wins Pacific as Axis - assuming no overlap and correct data posted...

You're right there - just hack away a bit longer - and THEN - perhaps you can relax and just enjoy the game for a while ( I know I am now that I got through the last couple of wins )...

After that it's ~ Forever ~ to Colonel - hopefully you'll get over that stress of making it to the finish line, because it is untenable for the next leg !!



      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 08 July 2012 23:08
And if you want to check his math, this is the easiest ( only? ) way to find out wins SINCE BEING promoted to Major :

http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44-online/en/career/?id=89 3344

( this is actually mine - I'm assuming it will default to yours when you use the link - if not, perhaps just chop off everything after career/ )

Achievements ( medals ) and promotions are easy to spot - they are off to the right...
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Sun, 08 July 2012 23:16
Promotion from Major Lt Colonel should be simple.

10 wins on each side in each theatre after promotion to Major.. 80 wins in total.

I'm not sure where the problem is.
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Mon, 09 July 2012 08:30
I am really intrigued now, and I will dig deeper.


I know how you feel Goeka, I spent about two months thinking I was right at the cusp of making Colonel


Cannot post attachments here, but I will email the record
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Mon, 09 July 2012 08:49
Hmm

Checking the addition

Right now you have

43 battles in 2011
349 in 2012
62 in the last 15 days

That adds up to 454, yet your profile says you fought 457.
3 missing somewhere


You were promoted 3/23/3 at 1st Armoured as Allies

I have cross checked that date against the Officer Roster

http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44-online/en/officer/roste r/?rank=maj&start=110&count=10#roster_content

So that date is correct
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Mon, 09 July 2012 09:00
I shall try and compare you record as Major v mine

You

115 wins off 275 played

Me
109 wins off 207 played


I was promoted after completing 10 wins as each side in the Pacific, and already had 10 wins each side in the theatre

Me

Pacific
10 wins as Allies, on 6 scenarios
10 wins as Axis, on 6 scenarios

You

7 wins as Axis.


I see I did say that earlier, but I was wrong to tell you you just needed Med after doing the East
van Voort wrote on Sun, 08 July 2012 01:59


You are, as a Major:

West AL 21 AX 14 (You can still stop playing here)
Eeat AL 5 AX 10 (Need Allies)
Med AL 8 AX 11 (Need Allies)
Pac AL 11 AX 7 (Need Axis)


van Voort not responsible for any extra fun you have playing unecessary games in the course of your promotion.


The first two are done, the last, Axis in Pacific, is not
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Mon, 09 July 2012 10:32
You have to beat your peers !!

It's written, black on white.
Invite majors (well, maybe it also works on higher ranks), beat them, get victories on about 6 different maps per side per front (at least five).

But beat your peers...
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Mon, 09 July 2012 10:35
Phread wrote on Sun, 08 July 2012 23:16

Promotion from Major Lt Colonel should be simple.

10 wins on each side in each theatre after promotion to Major.. 80 wins in total.

I'm not sure where the problem is.

The 80 wins are certainly neccessary, but there are a bunch of people who managed this and were not promoted after reaching this goal. So, as we might suspect of DoW by now, there is some other requirement that we have not yet fathomed out. We mostly focus on the beating of peers and advise them to play more majors. Playing some more games has helped all of them gain the promotion but we are still uncertain what specific requirement has been met then.
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Mon, 09 July 2012 10:44
trentdep wrote on Sun, 08 July 2012 23:08

And if you want to check his math, this is the easiest ( only? ) way to find out wins SINCE BEING promoted to Major :

http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44-online/en/career/?id=89 3344

( this is actually mine - I'm assuming it will default to yours when you use the link - if not, perhaps just chop off everything after career/ )

Achievements ( medals ) and promotions are easy to spot - they are off to the right...

This link indeed links to your (trentdep) career. If you want to go to your own career (GoekaWar) click on your signature banner. Or use the above link substituties trentdepth number with your own (39344). (It might be handy to save it in your browser favourites. Wink
      
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Re:[spoiler alert] Promotion requirements cadet through to Lt Colonel Mon, 09 July 2012 13:12
van Voort's record as a Major, Maj and above in the scenarios that count

Eastern

4 Allied and 3 Axis wins

Pacific

6 each

Med

7 Allied, 9 Axis

West
6 Allied, 5 Axis



We know I did get promoted, so that should establish an upper bound.

The only problem is that going back and checking what ranks people were at when Goeka played them - which is up to 4 months ago, will be very tedious to do.

Though I may do it.


I suggest though that he get the remaining Pacific victories first
      
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