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Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 00:30
Just played (and won) at Arracourt and was awarded the Advanced Historian medal. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

As far as I know I have missed playing only one scenario on its anniversary.

It was speculated that this award may be given for playing the original 16 scenarios on their anniversay. I will have to check to see if I have done this - duh the award says that I have done this.

The award states "You played the 16 scenarios on their anniversary date."

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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 01:09
Phread wrote on Mon, 19 September 2011 00:30


The award states "You played the 16 scenarios on their anniversary date."

Which 16 are THE 16?
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 01:24
Congrats on being the first, and currently the one and only recipient of this achievement.
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 01:36
Wow, congrats! Surprised

I think I need to snag a list of the "official 16" as well so I can get cracking on those...guessing most of them will have to be next summer.
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 01:58
I assume the "16" scenarios are those of the base M44 board game.

From the M44 Rules

1. Pegasus Bridge 1944-06-06

2. Sainte Mère-Église 1944-06-06

3. Sword Beach 1944-06-06

4. Pointe du Hoc 1944-06-06

5. Omaha Beach (First Assault Wave)1944-06-06

6. Mont Mouchet 1944-06-10

7. Vassieux 1944-07-21

8. Operation Cobra 1944-07-25 to 1944-07-26

9. Operation Lüttich (Counter-attack on Mortain) 1944-08-07 to 1944-08-11

10. Toulon 1942-12-01

11. Liberation of Paris 1944-08-24

12. Montélimar 1944-08-25

13. Arnhem Bridge 1944-09-17 to 1944-09-19

14. Arracourt 1944-09-19

15. St. Vith 1944-12-20 to 1944-12-22

16. Saverne Gap 1944-11-19 to 1944-11-23

There are 11 days per year when one could achieve the requirements for the Advanced Historian award.

(The dates listed are taken from my "Officer Career" spreadsheet.)

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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 03:39
oops... Arnhem 9-17
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 03:52
Randwulf wrote on Mon, 19 September 2011 13:39

oops... Arnhem 9-17


You may be able to play Arnhem today as my "Officer Career" spreadsheet lists Arnhem starting September 17 and finishing September 19. Be in quick or wait 12 months.

In fact looking at the Historian Medal one can see that it is still being awarded for Arnhem today.

Historian
Played a scenario on its historical date

Sous-lieutenant SAMY26 Awarded on 2011-09-19 01:38:44 at Arnhem Bridge

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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 04:28
cool... let's play it then....
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 04:44
Congratulations, Phread! You certainly deserve to be the first player getting this award.
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 06:23
And the second to be awarded this achievement was Colonel gheintze.

Well done Geoff. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Our second 1-2. Cool Cool Cool Cool
We will have to be careful, people may start to think that DoW is organising this for our enjoyment. Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 06:27
Yes, but I missed Mont Mouchet on June 10.

However, I've played every other scenario that's been available on its historical date so far.

There must be a programming bug.

It must be scheduled to check after today, and see if you've played 16 on the date or something like that...

Geoff

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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 07:01
Geoff, I have also missed Mont Mouchet on its original date, the only one I have missed.
Dang it I don't want to give the medal back. Crying or Very Sad Crying or Very Sad Crying or Very Sad

Can anyone remember what were the first 16 scenarios in the original M44 Beta?

Looking at my "Officer Career" spreadsheet Mont Mochet would appear to be one of the original scenarios, one of the 16.

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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 07:24
Congratulations, Phread. THAT one I'm jealous of!
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 08:40
Nygaard wrote on Mon, 19 September 2011 17:24

Congratulations, Phread. THAT one I'm jealous of!

Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Shucks Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 11:07
Well done sirs.

This one will be mine August 25th 2012 ! Crying or Very Sad
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 16:47
The list posted above is the correct list for the original 16 scenarios.

I'm still not sure why I was awarded it. I went back to check my career record and I definitely did not play Mont Mouchet on it's historical date.

I've played 15 out of 16 original scenarios (as listed above) on their anniversary. I've also played 12 others on their anniversary that were released later. As stated above, Mont Mouchet is the only one I've missed.

I sent a PM to Yann about it. My guess is that it became activated today, since it was the first day that you could get it. Maybe it only checks to make sure you've met the requirements after playing a battle on it' anniversary. But if you only need 16 battles on their anniversary and they don't have to be the originals, it seems unusual that only myself and one other player earned it.

I thought that there would be more players over the 16 battle threshold by now...

I sent a message to DoW letting them know, so they could investigate.

Geoff

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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 18:55
I suppose the other possibility is that the requirements were changed to play 27 scenarios on their historical date. Or 60% of the available scenarios on their date (27/45 at this point).

In which case, they just overlooked changing the descriptive text.

I would imagine that today is the first opportunity to hit the 60% plateau.

Geoff

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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 20:02
My sources on the frontline are reporting back with their progress towards the Advanced Historian award. My intelligence services are still puzzled that only two have been awarded.

To help everyone out, I will provide a list of the historical battles that I have played, so that we can compare and try to decipher the code. Smile

Sugar Loaf and Half Moon 5/13-5/19
Panzers vs. Grants 5/27
1st Armored to the Rescue 5/27
Flanking Maneuver at Bir Hakim 5/27
Into the Cauldron 6/5
Pegasus Bridge 6/6
St. Mere Eglise 6/6
Sword Beach 6/6
Pointe du Hoc 6/6
1st Assault Wave (Omaha Beach) 6/6
Juno Beach 6/6
**Mont Mouchet 6/10 (I missed this one) Embarassed
Escape via Coastal Road 6/14
Hellfire Pass 6/15-6/17
Ponyri 7/5-7/9
Vassieux 7/21
Guam Landings 7/21
Operation Cobra 7/25-7/26
Japanese Counterattack 7/25
Counterattack on Mortain 8/7-8/11
Toulon 8/20-8/26
Liberation of Paris 8/24
Montelimar 8/25
Battle of Warsaw 9/8-9/26
Arnhem Bridge 9/17-1/19
Arracourt 9/19
Saverne Gap 11/19-11/23
St. Vith 12/20-12/22

Hope this helps others...

The next battles are in October: 10/18 Gates of Moscow, 10/22 Red Barricades Factory, and 10/23 Matanikau River.

Geoff

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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 22:22
Very strange ... I also earned my medal after playing only 15 of the 16 original scenarios on their historical date, having missed Saverne Gap in 2010. Since December 2010, I played every available scenario on its anniversary, for a total of 27. I am only missing those maps dated from October to December and those which were published after their 2011 anniversary had already passed.
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 22:25
Turboheizer wrote on Mon, 19 September 2011 16:22

Very strange ... I also earned my medal after playing only 15 of the 16 original scenarios on their historical date, having missed Saverne Gap in 2010. Since December 2010, I played every available scenario on its anniversary, for a total of 27. I am only missing those maps dated from October to December and those which were published after their 2011 anniversary had already passed.


The more I think about this, my theory about 60% seems to make sense. Now you have missed a scenario besides Mont Mouchet, but also have 27 anniversary battles.

Still weird that the description text wasn't changed though.

But I always thought that it would be impossible to make us play every one as new ones were continuously being added. Also, as the number of battles expands, it is more difficult for newcomers to know what the 'original 16' would mean.

And it has to be that 27 is the magical number at the moment. We'll find out in a month, when the next anniversaries are. Assuming that new battles aren't released of course. Smile

Geoff

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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 23:04
So you only need to PLAY on aniversary date? That's easy. I started to catch this award by playing AND winning BOTH sides on aniversary date.
So far 20 such events, and 2 more when I was able to win only one of the sides. Missed 3 July battles due to vacation (damn GPRS networks!). Hope to catch you by November, guys!
Congratulations!
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 23:11
fjetzt wrote on Mon, 19 September 2011 17:04

So you only need to PLAY on aniversary date? That's easy. I started to catch this award by playing AND winning BOTH sides on aniversary date.
So far 20 such events, and 2 more when I was able to win only one of the sides. Missed 3 July battles due to vacation (damn GPRS networks!). Hope to catch you by November, guys!
Congratulations!


Yes, you just need to play a battle from one side. June 6th must have been a long day for you! Very Happy

More wins are always better anyway...

Geoff
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 September 2011 23:45
gheintze écrit le Mon, 19 September 2011 23:11

June 6th must have been a long day for you!


The longest !

Had to
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Tue, 20 September 2011 03:00
Turboheizer wrote on Tue, 20 September 2011 08:22

Very strange ... I also earned my medal after playing only 15 of the 16 original scenarios on their historical date, having missed Saverne Gap in 2010. Since December 2010, I played every available scenario on its anniversary, for a total of 27. I am only missing those maps dated from October to December and those which were published after their 2011 anniversary had already passed.


Perhaps there is a discount for Colonels - for us 15 from 16 will do!!!! Shocked Laughing Shocked Shocked Laughing Shocked
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Tue, 20 September 2011 08:04
Then what about the time when you guys will have won ALL maps on their anniversary?
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Tue, 20 September 2011 12:34
hdescavernes wrote on Tue, 20 September 2011 18:04

Then what about the time when you guys will have won ALL maps on their anniversary?


Then we get a bar to the medal.

Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Wed, 30 November 2011 18:21
Phread wrote on Sun, 18 September 2011 19:58

I assume the "16" scenarios are those of the base M44 board game.

From the M44 Rules

1. Pegasus Bridge 1944-06-06

2. Sainte Mère-Église 1944-06-06

3. Sword Beach 1944-06-06

4. Pointe du Hoc 1944-06-06

5. Omaha Beach (First Assault Wave)1944-06-06

6. Mont Mouchet 1944-06-10

7. Vassieux 1944-07-21

8. Operation Cobra 1944-07-25 to 1944-07-26

9. Operation Lüttich (Counter-attack on Mortain) 1944-08-07 to 1944-08-11

10. Toulon 1942-12-01

11. Liberation of Paris 1944-08-24

12. Montélimar 1944-08-25

13. Arnhem Bridge 1944-09-17 to 1944-09-19

14. Arracourt 1944-09-19

15. St. Vith 1944-12-20 to 1944-12-22

16. Saverne Gap 1944-11-19 to 1944-11-23

There are 11 days per year when one could achieve the requirements for the Advanced Historian award.

(The dates listed are taken from my "Officer Career" spreadsheet.)


For #10 you have listed Toulon and the Date of 1DEC42. The problem is you have either mistaken it for Tunisia or the date is incorrect?


Tunisia 1DEC42
http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/editor/view/?id=1326

Toulon 20AUG44 - 26AUG44
http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/editor/view/?id=23
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Wed, 30 November 2011 19:50
My error, the scenario is correct (Toulon is one of the 16) the date is not. Well spotted sir.

Thanks for letting us all know.

The corrected list is

From the M44 Rules
1. Pegasus Bridge 1944-06-06
2. Sainte Mère-Église 1944-06-06
3. Sword Beach 1944-06-06
4. Pointe du Hoc 1944-06-06
5. Omaha Beach (First Assault Wave)1944-06-06
6. Mont Mouchet 1944-06-10
7. Vassieux 1944-07-21
8. Operation Cobra 1944-07-25 to 1944-07-26
9. Operation Lüttich (Counter-attack on Mortain) 1944-08-07 to 1944-08-11
10. Toulon 1944-08-20 to 1944-08-26
11. Liberation of Paris 1944-08-24
12. Montélimar 1944-08-25
13. Arnhem Bridge 1944-09-17 to 1944-09-19
14. Arracourt 1944-09-19
15. St. Vith 1944-12-20 to 1944-12-22
16. Saverne Gap 1944-11-19 to 1944-11-23

There are 11 days per year when one could achieve the requirements for the Advanced Historian award.

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Re:Advanced Historian Mon, 19 December 2011 19:02
I signed up in August. If it's true that you need 15 of these particular 16 then it will be until the end of July before I get Advanced Historian (if I don't quit by then).

Fortunately I haven't yet missed any of these (knock on wood for St. Vith) so I have 7/16 (+3 N/A).

Old Man must be something like you played a game 3 years after your first game.
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Wed, 21 December 2011 00:49
Yep. It's here now.
St Vith was the missing one.
In the meantime I played 31 scenarion on their anniversaary (winning both sides on 29 of them and only one side on Guam and Tunisia - midnight came too soon), just in case.

So far only 4 of us.
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Wed, 21 December 2011 19:20
Congratulations Oberst fjetzt!

Unless I made a mistake looking through your history, it appears that fjetzt has also only played 15 out of 16 base game scenarios on their anniversary. I did not see a record of Operation Cobra on July 25-26.

So the requirements seem to remain "Play 15 out of 16" instead of "Play all 16 scenarios on their anniversary."

Please correct me if I've missed something.

Geoff
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Wed, 21 December 2011 19:57
I hoped it was : play 16 on the right date - check if you reached 16 at the end of one of the original 16 only ... (could have been programmed like that if it was programmed when only 16 existed)
But that is not the case ... reached that.
So the informed guess of 15 of the original 16 could be right.

That means I have to wait for june ... I joined on June 14th ... and aparently June 6th would have been better ... And by wait, I mean that literally ... If I am right, there are none of the original 16 between now and June 6th ...
Of the original 16, I'm only missing the 6 on June 6th and one on June 10th ... so if you guys are right, I'll get it on June 6th, if I manage to play 6 games on that day ...
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Wed, 21 December 2011 20:34
Phread wrote on Tue, 20 December 2011 11:45

And for those players who like to plan ahead the current official scenarios anniversaries January - May

Start Date - End Date -- Scenario
1943-01-10 1943-01-22 Slopes of Mount Austen
1942-01-26 1942-02-07 Rzhev
1944-02-16 1944-02-17 Breakout to Lisyanka
1945-02-26 1945-03-06 The Meat Grinder
1945-05-13 1945-05-19 Sugar Loaf and Half Moon
1942-05-27 1942-05-27 1st Armoured to the rescue
1942-05-27 1942-05-27 Flanking Maneuver at Bir Hakeim
1942-05-27 1942-05-27 Panzers versus Grants




None of these scenarios are needed for the Advanced Historian.
After today you will have to wait until June 6 for an Advanced Historian scenario. (St. Vith is Dec 20-22.)
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Wed, 21 December 2011 20:36
Quit2 wrote on Thu, 22 December 2011 07:57

I hoped it was : play 16 on the right date - check if you reached 16 at the end of one of the original 16 only ... (could have been programmed like that if it was programmed when only 16 existed)
But that is not the case ... reached that.
So the informed guess of 15 of the original 16 could be right.

That means I have to wait for june ... I joined on June 14th ... and aparently June 6th would have been better ... And by wait, I mean that literally ... If I am right, there are none of the original 16 between now and June 6th ...
Of the original 16, I'm only missing the 6 on June 6th and one on June 10th ... so if you guys are right, I'll get it on June 6th, if I manage to play 6 games on that day ...


If you don't manage at least 4 scenarios on June 6 you will have to wait one more year.
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Wed, 21 December 2011 21:01
You are right, I have missed Operation Cobra on 25th of July...

Here's the list of anniversaries played (and won):

1st Armoured to the rescue
Arnhem Bridge
Arracourt
Breakout at Klin
Counter-ttack on Mortain
Dug in at Sidi Omar
Escape via the Coastal Road
First Assault Wave
Flanking Maneuver at Bir Hakeim
Gallabat & Matemma
Gates of Moscow
Guam Landings
Hellfire Pass
Into the Cauldon
Juno Beach
Knightsbridge
Liberation of Paris
Mont Mouchet
Montélimar
Panzers versus Grants
Pegasus Bridge
Pointe-du-Hoc
Sainte-M`ere-Eglise
Saverne Gap
Sugar Loaf and Half Moon
Suomussalmi
Sword Beach
Toulon
Tunisia
Twin Villages
Vassieux
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Fri, 23 December 2011 06:58
To be an advanced historian takes study, time, hard work and a little bit of luck (some days you just can't play.)
Just like in real life, you don't get to be a historian overnight. Razz

I personally think it is good to have some achievements that take (some?) time and dedication to get.
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Fri, 13 April 2012 22:43
I was thinking about this achievement and I got a question ...
As far as most of us lives in different time zones, what is the main time zone that is used to calculate when the game was played?
i.e.: Im in GMT+1 ... And if I play some scenarion on June 6th lets say 5am, in the US is still only June 5th. Therefore, if the server (or whatever) runs in the US, it is taking US time and not considering me playing this scenario on that particular day.
Any idea or opinions?
      
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Re:Advanced Historian Fri, 13 April 2012 23:39
Syky wrote on Fri, 13 April 2012 16:43

I was thinking about this achievement and I got a question ...
As far as most of us lives in different time zones, what is the main time zone that is used to calculate when the game was played?
i.e.: Im in GMT+1 ... And if I play some scenarion on June 6th lets say 5am, in the US is still only June 5th. Therefore, if the server (or whatever) runs in the US, it is taking US time and not considering me playing this scenario on that particular day.
Any idea or opinions?


The clock runs on Paris time.

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Re:Advanced Historian Sat, 14 April 2012 00:37
Thats my time! Razz

Thanks, Goeff!
      
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