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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Tue, 19 February 2013 15:10
The line ups for this round:

Helcat - Dugrim
Jaykay2010 * - Vercingetorix1302
gheintze * - Artimon
lucky91 * - Looney Llama
van Voort * - clorofila 2 pt
tank commander - Jeronimon
JAParker 2pt - JJ's Juggernaut
Gonzalan - sam1812

Where JAParker will be our 2 pt player.


Go Allies Go!

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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Tue, 19 February 2013 15:11
Hey guys,

I just want to clarify a little on my previous post. All of these scenarios are based on actual battles. In Malaya Zemlya, there was a night landing, a Soviet Naval marine unit behind the lines and a lot of air power was used by both sides. I tried to incorporate these facts in this scenario. Doing this makes the scenario much more interesting to play. I also realize that by doing this, ugly bug problems crop up. However, unless they will effect our head to head play, I think we can overcome them by stating them in the rules or just by a gentlemanly agreement not to use a certain card until appropriate. I do appreciate you guys finding some of them before we play. I just don't want to write them so simply that they are no fun to play. All of the special rules in this one bring a nice flavor to the scenario. Otherwise, I don't think Erik would have chosen it.

I think in the future, I will post our upcoming scenario as early as possible so you can 'try it out' and let me know if I have missed something that needs corrected or explained. Until there is a major update to correct some of these bugs,we will have to live with what we have. Please do not get discouraged or frustrated. For me, this is the only way I get to play new scenarios with good players. I'm kinda bored with the official ones.

I'm having so much fun writing and playing these scenarios that I plan on having a Pacific Theater tournament after this one. I think it will be a blast to continue playing with you guys.

Eric
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Tue, 19 February 2013 15:56
Good news that you are already thinking ahead, Eric Smile Pacific Tournament sounds good!

Don't worry about bugs, gentleman rules and scenario testing: I'm sure we all are willing to go through those processes in order to make this a better tournament. It's such a small price to pay for this great experience, Eric!
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Tue, 19 February 2013 16:21
clorofila wrote on Tue, 19 February 2013 09:56

Good news that you are already thinking ahead, Eric Smile Pacific Tournament sounds good!

Don't worry about bugs, gentleman rules and scenario testing: I'm sure we all are willing to go through those processes in order to make this a better tournament. It's such a small price to pay for this great experience, Eric!


I agree. I was posting the bus for informational purposes, not as a criticism.

Thanks, Eric! I'm looking forward to this round and getting back on the winning track.

Geoff
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Tue, 19 February 2013 17:17
I noticed that every turn I faced a new Allied opponent.
Everyone wants to try the new rookie?
Surprised
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Tue, 19 February 2013 18:40
Dugrim wrote on Tue, 19 February 2013 09:17

I noticed that every turn I faced a new Allied opponent.
Everyone wants to try the new rookie?
Surprised


Dugrim,

Feels like this doesn't it! Only 3 battles for me in this format , from the last tourney, so pretty much in the same boat or guess tank in this case!

But, that is the beauty of this format, get to play one and all and with 10 scenarios and 8 players you will get your revenge on an opponent possibly, if your leader listens to your wishes!

Besides, being the rookie during the last go, found it quite fun and that is why I find myself back for more! That and Looneyllama being kind enough to let a "rookie" return for more beatings!
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Tue, 19 February 2013 18:43
Dugrim wrote on Tue, 19 February 2013 17:17

I noticed that every turn I faced a new Allied opponent.
Everyone wants to try the new rookie?
Surprised

If you look closely you will see that we all face a new opponent every round, it makes the tournament more exciting and you get to meet new people. Cool

But I would not put it past our esteemed high commanders that they sit in the Brigadier bar and say to each other: "What can we do to pester that little Dugrim with this Round?" Razz



LooneyLlama wrote on Tue, 19 February 2013 13:11

Sending in a bug report is a waste of time as nothing has been corrected in over a year.

This as in M44 as in life is my curse. I am the eternal optimist and will give people a second (and third and fourth) chance to better themselves and do the right thing. Never give up on people.

For M44 it's more: never give up, never say die, never stop!

Until you see that screen with the percentages and will have to admit defeat, because there are no more units to order. But then there is always the "Rematch" button! Mad
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Wed, 20 February 2013 12:58
Jeronimon wrote on Tue, 19 February 2013 17:43

For M44 it's more: never give up, never say die, never stop!

Until you see that screen with the percentages and will have to admit defeat, because there are no more units to order. But then there is always the "Rematch" button! Mad


Well said!!!
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Wed, 20 February 2013 21:06
LooneyLlama écrit le Tue, 19 February 2013 15:11



I'm having so much fun writing and playing these scenarios that I plan on having a Pacific Theater tournament after this one. I think it will be a blast to continue playing with you guys.

Eric


Hi Eric,

I think we all enjoy a lot your scenarios. And we are all aware about the fact we could meet some bugs as you are creating so many new funny rules and tactical schemas in your scenarios.

The only thing important is to clarify which rule you want we play when some bugs appears.

What a great idea to continue with a Pacific tournament, thanks a lot for all these beautiful scenarios !
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Fri, 22 February 2013 20:33
Eric,
Maybe it is good to remind people in the notes that you are not supposed to use BEL with the anti tank guys.

Or could they in 1943?
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Fri, 22 February 2013 21:52
Jeronimon wrote on Fri, 22 February 2013 12:33

Eric,
Maybe it is good to remind people in the notes that you are not supposed to use BEL with the anti tank guys.

Or could they in 1943?




Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Mon, 04 February 2013 16:03

For this, and all future scenarios in our tournament, please do not use the BEL card with anti-tank units. We will consider it my house rule. Thanks.

Eric



Jeroen,

Your answer per previous post by our esteemed designer.
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 23 February 2013 08:24
Hi Tony,

Thanks for reminding me, but I was aware of the tournament rules. Cool

But in one of the previous scenarios Eric also mentioned it in the description of the scenario on M44. I thought that might be handy to do here also. Smile
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 23 February 2013 16:10
Jeronimon wrote on Sat, 23 February 2013 00:24

Hi Tony,

Thanks for reminding me, but I was aware of the tournament rules. Cool

But in one of the previous scenarios Eric also mentioned it in the description of the scenario on M44. I thought that might be handy to do here also. Smile


Jeroen,

But of course you were, silly of me to think not, never underestimate you, you are always on top of your game!! Laughing

It was for the benefit of the rest of our compatriots!! Laughing

Afterall, a FLYING DUTCHMAN sees and knows all!

Tony
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Fri, 01 March 2013 22:57
To all commanders,

Round 5 is now completed. A stunning 7-2 victory for the Axis. I thought this would be much closer. A couple of the battles could have gone the other way(especially mine with Lucky)to even out the results. The overall battle report shows a 45% victory margin for the Allies. Not bad in my estimation.

We now move on to our final battle in 1943, The Belgorod-Bogodukhov Offensive. I feel this will be a fairly even battle. Look out if the Allies can get their armor into a coordinated attack. Also, if they can hold Hill 317, there is the potential to inflict maximum damage on any bunched units. The extra armor for the Axis could be the deciding factor. Good luck gentlemen!

Helcat will now let Sam know who his 2 point player will be and Sam will set the lineups.

The scenario is now posted online for you to practice.

Eric
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Fri, 01 March 2013 23:54
Eric,

Yes, 7-2 not the best results for us ALLIES, but 2 9-7 scores and my 9-6 against Sam, though not that close, easily could have been 5-4 and a little closer.

Still, rather enjoyable scenario, obviously would like to win, but playing and experiencing new and unique scenarios makes NOT WINNING easier to take!

On to the B-B Offensives and time for the ALLIES to exact out revenge!
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 02 March 2013 01:47
I don't often quote Ilya Erhenberg, but the situation seems to require it:

"Henceforth the word German means to us the most terrible curse. From now on the word German will trigger your rifle.

We shall not speak any more.
We shall not get excited.
We shall kill.

If you have not killed at least one German a day, you have wasted that day.
If you think that instead of you, the man next to you will kill him, you have not understood the threat.
If you do not kill the German, he will kill you.
If you cannot kill your German with a bullet, kill him with your bayonet.
If there is calm on your part of the front, if you are waiting for the fighting, kill a German before combat.

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Do not count days; do not count miles.
Count only the number of Germans you have killed.

Kill the German - this is your old mother's prayer.
Kill the German - this is what your children beseech you to do.
Kill the German - this is the cry of your Russian earth.

Do not waver. Do not let up. Kill."
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 02 March 2013 01:57
And with that in mind I will appoint Tank Commander as my 2 point player.
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 02 March 2013 02:12
I don't quote myself very often but "The Russian bear is baring his teeth. It is now time to pull them out".
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 02 March 2013 02:24
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ClEgJBX20os/TYmPZhNyr-I/AAAAAAAAHFw/SmqrH4nRMTA/s1600/ww2-cartoons-hitler-cornered-by-the-russian-bear-stalingrad-January-1943.jpg
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 02 March 2013 03:31
That is the right answer.
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 02 March 2013 04:48
Nicely done vV.
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 02 March 2013 06:46
van Voort wrote on Fri, 01 March 2013 19:47

I don't often quote Ilya Erhenberg, but the situation seems to require it:

"Henceforth the word German means to us the most terrible curse. From now on the word German will trigger your rifle." Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 02 March 2013 06:50
Here are the pairings for Round 6.

As previously noted, Tank Commander will be the Russian 2-point player.

The German 2-point player will be Jeronimon.

And here's who will play against whom.

sam1812 vs lucky91
Artimon vs Helcat
clorofila vs Jaykay2010
Dugrim vs gheintze
Jeronimon vs JAParker
JJs Juggernaut vs Gonzalan
LooneyLlama vs van Voort
Vercingetorix1302 vs Tank Commander

Good luck, and let's all have fun.

Sam
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 02 March 2013 10:59
I still think the fight is closer to them than to us:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/30626174/jerfotodiv/BerlintoBear.jpg



And the only way the Bear is coming to Berlin is like this:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/30626174/jerfotodiv/BeartoBerlin.jpg

The caption reads: for our Zoo



(Technically it's WWI and they are Austrians, but the picture has the right setting to counter the picture that vV put up. Propaganda is not a factual business you know. Razz )


sources for these images: diverse websites, I kind of just plucked them from the internet in the heat of propaganda. Reverse search with Google images will get you there. Wink
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 02 March 2013 11:37
Helcat wrote on Fri, 01 March 2013 19:57

And with that in mind I will appoint Tank Commander as my 2 point player.



It is a great honor to serve as the 2 pt player. I certainly hope that I can bring our side those 2 pts considering the results of the last round.

Now our side needs a decisive round to rally around. To all my comrades, crush the invaders under your tank tracks while moving towards total victory.
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 02 March 2013 17:54
Commanders,

I was checking our upcoming scenario and discovered that I had inadvertantly left out Gung Ho rules for the Allies. I am sorry for this oversight. I was tweaking this scenario right up until it was posted and somehow it slipped by. I also had left out the Hill 317 deck option. Without these two Expert options, the Allies chance of winning were next to nil. Please accept my apologies.

Eric
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 02 March 2013 18:00
Eric, I played allies around 12 hours ago and the Hill was working (Recon as Air Power). Am I getting that wrong?
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 02 March 2013 18:20
I managed that too

Did not have GUng ho though I think
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 02 March 2013 20:15
Ok, glad to hear it's working. When I played yesterday it didn't work. I didn't realize initially that I didn't have the Hill 317 option checked in expert mode. For a while there I thought it was a bug. It was a bug alright, my bug. What happens is that I go back and forth changing out and in different options until I feel it's right. Those are two that I thought I had in but didn't. It's good to go now.
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sat, 02 March 2013 22:52
Hi.

I just played this and the Recon Air Power did not work for me.

Also, certain cards allowed the extra order while others did not-strange.
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sun, 03 March 2013 00:14
tank commander, Hill 317 should work. As far as not allowing you to order an extra unit, it should work for all cards except recon 1. It will only allow you to order one unit or Air Power. That is a bug that I noted in the description. Did it not allow you to order an extra unit from any other cards? That did not happen at any time when I tested it.

Eric
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sun, 03 March 2013 04:17
I've just played another match and the Hill worked. Perhaps will should all try it a bit more, to make sure.
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sun, 03 March 2013 04:43
I played it tonight, and Gung-Ho worked as described--could order extra units for all cards except Recon 1.

Hill 317 has been working when I played, as well.

It should be noted--only the Allies can use Hill 317 (as described in the Rules), and only IF the Allies occupy Hill 317 can they use the Recon 1 as an Air Power--and that is also as it is described in the rules.

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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sun, 03 March 2013 11:21
LooneyLlama wrote on Sat, 02 March 2013 18:14

tank commander, Hill 317 should work. As far as not allowing you to order an extra unit, it should work for all cards except recon 1. It will only allow you to order one unit or Air Power. That is a bug that I noted in the description. Did it not allow you to order an extra unit from any other cards? That did not happen at any time when I tested it.

Eric


Hi Eric.

I went back through the log file. At the start of Turns 3 & 17 I occupied Hill 317. I played Recons both turns but could not "order" any German units for an Air Strike. I had to settle for a single order to one of my units. I see that I was able to order an extra unit on all other turns, so the Gung Ho rule did work-I forgot about it not working with the Recon.

Perhaps the type of unit which holds Hill 317 makes a difference? I had a tank unit on the hill.
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sun, 03 March 2013 16:44
tank commander,

I have Hill 317 working now. When you played it the designated hill in expert mode wasn't activated. Sorry. I usually have 2 or 3 versions of the same scenario to experiment with. This is the first time I goofed and put online the one that wasn't going to be used. Don't get me wrong, it is very close to the final version but I don't check it as thoroughly as the one you see.

It is now in working order. I'm pretty sure all bugs and my mistakes are corrected. Let the games begin.
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sun, 03 March 2013 17:08
Hey guys,

I have received a note from Sam asking if he could change scenarios. He was basing his decision on the unfinished version. He is very concerned about the BEL card being too powerful in Belgorod. In my scenario you get 2 points for an infantry exit. That is a potential 6 points. Honestly I didn't think of that.


So, here is what we will do. I am going to eliminate the 2 point infantry exit. Everthing else will stay the same. Again, I am sorry for the confusion. I am predicting this scenario will play out very even. Honestly, in my trials BEL never came up for the Allies. It is a too powerful card with Gung Ho. I hope everyone is satisfied with this decision. Let's play.

Eric

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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sun, 03 March 2013 17:24
Thank you for making that adjustment, Eric. It brings things back into line.

Tally ho! Let the games begin!
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Sun, 03 March 2013 18:33
LooneyLlama wrote on Sun, 03 March 2013 09:08

Hey guys,

I have received a note from Sam asking if he could change scenarios. He was basing his decision on the unfinished version. He is very concerned about the BEL card being too powerful in Belgorod. In my scenario you get 2 points for an infantry exit. That is a potential 6 points. Honestly I didn't think of that.


So, here is what we will do. I am going to eliminate the 2 point infantry exit. Everthing else will stay the same. Again, I am sorry for the confusion. I am predicting this scenario will play out very even. Honestly, in my trials BEL never came up for the Allies. It is a too powerful card with Gung Ho. I hope everyone is satisfied with this decision. Let's play.

Eric



What! That was my one and only plan of "A"ttack! Now must devise plans "B" to "Z" in hopes that one of those 25 others will work!!

Bad enough that you beat me 3 times last week Sam, SFTF and BGG, and here we are a week later and still causing damage to my hopes! Laughing

Indeed, let the fighting begin!
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Mon, 04 March 2013 02:45
LooneyLlama wrote on Sun, 03 March 2013 11:08

Hey guys,

So, here is what we will do. I am going to eliminate the 2 point infantry exit. Everthing else will stay the same.

Eric


Eric--will there now be ONE point for exiting infantry? Or no points at all? And is there still one point for exiting tanks?

Thanks for clarifying this!
      
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament Mon, 04 March 2013 04:33
Yes, exiting an infantry gives the Allies 1 medal.
      
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