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  Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Fri, 18 April 2008 10:57
Memoir 44 - Campaign Bag is available for preorder on our webstore.

http://blog.daysofwonder.com/wp-content/dow-uploads/2008/04/game1.jpg


Order your copy now!
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Fri, 18 April 2008 16:30
Shocked

Breakthrough format map??????
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Fri, 18 April 2008 17:11
Looks brilliant - but any chance of larger images so we can paw over them ?
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Fri, 18 April 2008 17:36
The mythical beast is real! Oh ye of little faith (and patience)... Very nice Smile
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Fri, 18 April 2008 19:25
It's a given that I'll be buying this, but as someone who stores his pieces in tackle boxes, I'm a little disappointed that it's set up to accomodate the games in their original boxes. In retrospect, I guess that shouldn't be too suprising.

I guess I'll have to do some experimenting with tackle boxes in the bag, as I don't see an advantage to returning the pieces to their original boxes.
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Fri, 18 April 2008 21:12
I hope my plano boxes will fit inside it... otherwise I will be looking for new plano boxes...
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Fri, 18 April 2008 21:13
Cheng wrote on Fri, 18 April 2008 12:25

It's a given that I'll be buying this, but as someone who stores his pieces in tackle boxes, I'm a little disappointed that it's set up to accomodate the games in their original boxes. In retrospect, I guess that shouldn't be too suprising.

I guess I'll have to do some experimenting with tackle boxes in the bag, as I don't see an advantage to returning the pieces to their original boxes.

Yep, that is disappointing. Especially to those who have already tossed their expansion boxes. This is a dilemma for me as well. While I still have all my boxes, I actually have 2 complete sets of everything (expansions as well) and thought it would be designed to hold individual components - not box sets.

I too will experiment with Plano Boxes. The biggest plus is that the canvas can hold the boards - which has been the greatest challenge in using tackle boxes so far.
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Fri, 18 April 2008 21:52
I still have my original packaging but I'll definitely be passing on this product if it's not meant to reorganize the contents.

Unless, of course, the Breakthrough Map is très cool, but we'll have to wait and see. Definitely not something I'd pre-order.
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Fri, 18 April 2008 21:57
generalpf wrote on Fri, 18 April 2008 14:52

I still have my original packaging but I'll definitely be passing on this product if it's not meant to reorganize the contents.

Unless, of course, the Breakthrough Map is très cool, but we'll have to wait and see. Definitely not something I'd pre-order.

I'll bite because of the map and, well, I am a completist. But I am only buying 1 and I am definitely waiting until they are released so I don't have to pay the full $40. Perhaps Tanga or Pozy will come through for me.
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Fri, 18 April 2008 22:07
Can't help wondering if DOW might have some plans for inserts for the bag at some stage one other expansions come out. IE you ditch the original boxes and store your pieces in the new boxes that they sell you.

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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Fri, 18 April 2008 22:45
Needing more info on the breakout maps as they seem very interesting.
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Sat, 19 April 2008 02:42
Based on the pictures and how the various boxes are arranged to fit inside the bag, that gives a reasonable approximation as to the actual size, which would allow one to determine if their current plano boxes would fit well.

I too have long since pitched the cheapy expansion boxes and the various inserts. Right now I have everything (one each of every release) stored in the original master game box and the air pack box. However, I am mostly using zip-lock baggies and simple stacking methods to keep everything organized inside the boxes. At this point what I have works pretty well, so I'm not sure about dropping $40 on this bag plus another $30+ on various storage boxes to hold everything neatly.

I'd like to see some interior shots of the bag. Are there any sort of divisions and compartments other than the two large compartments and the two dice pockets?

I do like that mapboard, but I can basically create the same thing using my Epic Battlelore maps. We will see. But right now I think I'd rather invest $70 in Wings of War. I love those bi-plane minis!
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Sat, 19 April 2008 11:56
I have seen a copy of the finished bag, and even though I have ditched by expansion boxes a long time ago, I have no doubt that I should be able to find some kind of useful boxes to fit the smaller pockets.

The bag seems to be of a good quality, with plenty of room for everything. It certainly looked much better than expected (after seeing the Nürnberg pic), and the new map is really just icing on the cake!
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Sun, 20 April 2008 13:54
Confused I'm a big fan of M44 but if ever I'll buy this new product it will be for 2 reasons:

1) the map (and in this case 40 EURO are really so expensive!)

2) a sense of "completeness".

Not satisfied, I hoped at least bag could contain some new stuff could have a real effect on the game. Because of bag dimension I fear there's no sequel... boh let's see
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Sun, 20 April 2008 17:15
Like Angelo I am a big fan of M44 & DOW but without some special inserts designed to hold armies, terrain tiles etc (apart from the breakthrough map), it is just a bag, I can get a bag a lot cheaper than this, either from a bag shop or military surplus e.g. http://www.surplusandadventure.com/shop/camping-outdoor/bags -holdalls/military/large-canvas-webbing-backpack-359138.html
Shame really, I had been looking forward to a useful way of "keeping it all together"

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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Mon, 21 April 2008 00:04
Well...
Thanks DoW for this bag. I wont buy it . No need .
But I have few questions :

1 - This breakthrough board will be available for order someday ?
2 - Will be more scenarios using this battle mode ?
3 - The Desert/Winter map board is no longer in the main page of the site. They will be available for order again ?

Thanks...
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Mon, 21 April 2008 03:01
I had held off on any storage solution waiting for the Campaign Bag, meanwhile I managed to squeeze everything in to the original and Air Pack box.

Seeing this though, I'm going back to all the threads about storage to see what kind of tackle box to use. I'm not going to pay $40 (or even 30% off $40) for a bag that doesn't even let me divide things up the way I want to. And a paper map? If it was mounted or cloth or something I'd consider it, but a folding paper map isn't enough of an hook.

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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Mon, 21 April 2008 06:14
angelo wrote on Sun, 20 April 2008 04:54

Because of bag dimension I fear there's no sequel... boh let's see


Hi Angelo,

For now, let's just say that that fear is totally unfounded (then again, we heard folks tell us the same thing in the year that preceded the Air Pack, and after we released that one too Rolling Eyes )

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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Mon, 21 April 2008 06:16
labalbi wrote on Sun, 20 April 2008 15:04

Well...
Thanks DoW for this bag. I wont buy it . No need .
But I have few questions :

1 - This breakthrough board will be available for order someday ?
2 - Will be more scenarios using this battle mode ?
3 - The Desert/Winter map board is no longer in the main page of the site. They will be available for order again ?

Thanks...


1 - Don't know but unlikely for that particular one.

2 - Yes, there will be more scenarios in the Breakthrough formats, as well as more battle maps in general.

3 - The Desert/Winter board will be reprinted sometime later this year.

eric
      
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  Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Mon, 21 April 2008 15:59
Hmmm, disappointed, the bag looks great, but I really hoped for a packing solution for the game components, not the game boxes. Sad

My cards do not fit anymore in the original space as I use deck protectors. I hopped for a place to put my extra minis. Rolling Eyes

Anyway, how many expansion boxes fit in one of the front pouches? How may maps in the map pouch?

Can we have the internal size of the different compartments (front pouches, map pouch, main compartment, and small side pouches)?

Can we have a picture of the bag with the top flap opened and a M44 box inside?

Is it possible to buy the plastic container that comes with the terrain pack?

If I am going to buy it I need to plan what kind of compartment box I will put inside, (those nice Plano Boxes are not available locally).
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Mon, 21 April 2008 16:46
I think this back can handle all M44 expansion even when (thats my case) we are not using the original boxes. Plastic boxes from many sizes can fit there...

My problem to buy it is the shipment fee to Brazil. And the price, of course.

I dont know why but everything in Euro costs much more than the same in dollar . Thats the reason I always import my games from USA and not from Europe.

In my local currency the dollar is cheaper than Euro , which make the deal even better when paid in dollar....

Anyway...
I do hope to see this new grand map available for download.
Im eager to see anyone here posting some impressions on this new kind of map which can change the way we play M44.
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Mon, 21 April 2008 17:49
From the pictures of how to load this, you can fit 2 copies of the base game plus the extra boards, plus the Air Pack, plus one expansion (turned sideways and standing on end) in the large compartment.

The two outside pouches can fit one expansion each. The little pouches can hold dice.

I was able to fit all expansions except the Airpack into one original box. If there is room to store boards in the bag and if I can pull out dice and maybe a small Plano for the markers or cards, I think I can easily get two complete sets of this game into one bag using a combination of the original boxes and the Plano boxes I have een using. I think this method will also accomodate a couple more expansions on the scale of the other "army" expansions.

http://static.memoir44.com/lang/english/images/mm_cb_inside.jpg

http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/content/bag/
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Mon, 21 April 2008 20:39
Of course, the image shown is how DoW would best use the campaign bag...but it certainly isn't limited in that sense.

For those of you who have thrown out your expansion boxes (sacrilege!) I don't think that there is a law against getting storage boxes that could easily take their place.

I look forward to making the campaign bag a central part of my carrying solution!
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Tue, 22 April 2008 07:04
Hmmm... $40 +shipping for a bag and a map?
No new rules, no new terrain tiles and no new miniatures?
I don't want to sound like a complainer but I will have to seriously think about this one.

I was disappointed by the contents of AirPack for the price I paid (yes I still bought a second one).

I own two each of the M'44 products and I see on the blog that the bag will not accommodate two of everything and will not come with a web code.

Luckily I have my boxes but not he inserts... ha ha

Now the completist in me has a dilemma... one bag, two or none?
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Tue, 22 April 2008 12:07
JasonMa wrote on Sun, 20 April 2008 18:01

And a paper map? If it was mounted or cloth or something I'd consider it, but a folding paper map isn't enough of an hook.


Where does it say it is a paper map?

Edit: Uhh, Never Mind, I found it in the blog.

Rats, it is described as being made of just paper, like a road-map, which makes it rather less enticing to me. Color me "Underwhelmed" hehe.


I thought it would be a double-sized map in the square Battlelore format rather than the Overlord rectangle format for doublesize, but still made of the same map material as the original.

Edit: Now I really want to know the individual pocket dimensions I requested below before editing this message. I now consider the map is no longer much of a selling point, and if the bag cannot fit some decent PLANO-type storage boxes in the two expansion side pockets, then I'll just get a different bag now rather than wait for this. I would still prefer this, as the external graphics on the bag look fantastic.

Also, I would like to add myself to the growing list of those requesting the various individual pocket dimensions. It will assist me in making a better choice of plastic containers sized to fit inside the various pockets. (My original boxes are getting abused, as I demo games quite frequently, and the boxes get handled... a lot Wink ).

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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Tue, 22 April 2008 13:43
Well you know the size of the expansion boxes. And you know those fit in the front pouches. So anything of that size will fit. Given it is cloth, it should move a bit so evenif you get something that is slightly wider but not as deep, it should still fit as well.

Not that I wouldn't mind dimensions, but that at least gives you something to think about it we get them.
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Tue, 22 April 2008 14:25
Hmm, You charge 40 EUR = 60 USD!!!

I'm afraid that's way too much...
      
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  Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Tue, 22 April 2008 14:34
I DO Hope DoW will put this new map available for download . Im willing to PAY for this map to play this new breakthrough mode .

In fact , for me , this new map is the GREAT News ...

Why nobody talks about it ? Maybe nobody has played it yet..
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Tue, 22 April 2008 16:41
Thank you!

Just finished my pre-order for two bags to hold all my Memoir '44 Stuff.

If it doesn't arrive on time this time, I promise to check my credit card status before going off half-cocked and throwing a hissy fit!

Be that as it may,

THANK YOU!!!

Darion Leonidas
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Tue, 22 April 2008 17:56
labalbi wrote on Tue, 22 April 2008 07:34

Im willing to PAY for this map to play this new breakthrough mode.

It will only cost you $40 or 40-euro. And you get a free bag with it!

Not much to talk about on the map as there isn't a whole lot of details. One side is blank that will support "breakthrough" type scenarios in the future.

The flip side is a pre-set scenario that will make for quick set-up. And while I don't want very many of these pre-printed scenarios (I prefer the flexibility of the terrain tiles as it is one of the draws to M44 over other similar games), I wouldn't mind a few of these for those times I want a quick game of M44 and don't want to spend the time on set-up.

What I would be happy with is one each of a winter, desert, and coastal board (3 maps) each with the "generic" side on one side and a pre-printed scenario on the other. That would about hit the spot for me on the pre-printed side.

I would like to see a costal one offer more sea hexes so we can utilize the ships and more countryside so we can simulate a push to an objective further inland all on the same board. The beach strip is about right as is.

I think a desert map would be a good addition to be included in the British Expansion. I think that would be an appropriate bonus.

I also think this might make for a decent campaign mode. (Which is why I assume it is being introduced with the CAMPAIGN bag, among other reasons). A couple of maps that go together would make for a decent campaign if it had the pre-printed troop set-up. No worries on the terrain - just set up the troops, carry over any applicable troops from the previous board, and continue on with your campaign.

So those are some of my thoughts on what we know so far and how I would like to see it possibly developed in the future.
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Tue, 22 April 2008 18:12
hehe...
The problem is the shipment fee , Colt...I believe it will cost me another U$40 to get the Bag in Brazil...

Anyway...
I have all expansions but PT , but I would love to have printed maps to ready-to-play matches...Would be really nice ...

No need to put the tiles, no worry about shake the table !
I would pay for a downloading version of this map , so I could print it in my local bureau .

Lets see what DoW has prepared for 2008 . Im waiting..
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Tue, 22 April 2008 18:16
Just 3 observations:

1. I don't need to carry my sets around, I want to organize the contents of all the sets I own. So, the bag is not an option for me unless there is/are (a) new organizer-box(es) to put into the bag in the pipeline.

2. M44 is a game!
Why do I have to buy a bag (that I do not need!) to get a games expansion? IMHO the expansion should be made available without the bag too.

3. 40 EUR = 40 USD ??? (+ 11 EUR p&p in my case)

Thx,

Bart
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Tue, 22 April 2008 19:07
Do you plan to have these for sale at gencon?
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Tue, 22 April 2008 23:57
Could someone PLEASE describe this map to me?!? I feel like I'm really out of the loop...and I'm REALLY into M '44!!! Embarassed
I have not the slightest idea what a "breakthrough" map is...

THANKS!
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Wed, 23 April 2008 00:53
I just hope DoW will put out more scenarios with the "breakthourgh" map then they have for "overlord" maps. Still only "5" official ones Mad
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Wed, 23 April 2008 01:53
yosemite wrote on Tue, 22 April 2008 14:57

Could someone PLEASE describe this map to me?!? I feel like I'm really out of the loop...and I'm REALLY into M '44!!! Embarassed
I have not the slightest idea what a "breakthrough" map is...

THANKS!


My understanding of this style of map is it is twice the size of the one which comes with the game. However, instead of lying end-to-end "Overlord" style (Creating an even longer Rectangle) it would be like unto 2 regular map-boards being laid side to side, creating a square map.

Please, those with more experience, correct me if I'm wrong.
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Wed, 23 April 2008 01:57
ColtsFan76 wrote on Tue, 22 April 2008 04:43

Well you know the size of the expansion boxes. And you know those fit in the front pouches. So anything of that size will fit. Given it is cloth, it should move a bit so evenif you get something that is slightly wider but not as deep, it should still fit as well.

Not that I wouldn't mind dimensions, but that at least gives you something to think about it we get them.


Yes, this is what I am starting with, but the PLANO boxes I really want to use, assuming front of expansion box is the top, are approximately 1 inch taller on the height, 1/2 inch thicker on the width, and 1.5 inches shorter on the long axis, IIRC from measuring the PLANO boxes in the store I saw them in. So, dimensions of the pockets would be nice to rule them out or make me buy them. Cool
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Wed, 23 April 2008 03:14
yosemite wrote on Tue, 22 April 2008 16:57

Could someone PLEASE describe this map to me?!? I feel like I'm really out of the loop...and I'm REALLY into M '44!!! Embarassed
I have not the slightest idea what a "breakthrough" map is...

THANKS!

As linked to on the first post:

http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/content/bag/

and a little more here on the blog:
http://blog.daysofwonder.com/2008/04/18/memoir-44-campaign-b ag-for-storage-travel/en/

It is a large pre-pritned scenario on one side with permanent terrain and little markings for unit set-up. In addition, the reference cards and scenario info is printed on the map. On the flip side, it is a generic countryside that is 13 x 17 - or two boards placed next to each other on their long side (a la BattleLore epic vs short side-to-side a la Overlord).

It is a paper map like you would have if you went traveling.
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Wed, 23 April 2008 22:00
Thanks for the links!!! Smile

SO...a Breakthrough map is pre-printed with terrain, etc. on one side and generic on the other. Is the plan that there will be MORE of these maps available? If so, will they be sold separately? I guess it's the term "Breakthrough map" that's throwing me here. Is this the Next Big Thing for M '44 or a one-shot deal to help sell the case?
      
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Re:Campaign Bag is available for preorder! Wed, 23 April 2008 22:03
I don't think it is a "one and done" promotion. It sounds like "breakthrough" is just another way to describe a "double-board" and to distinguish it from "overlord" in its configuration.

What remains to be seen is if there is special rules involved for reinforcements or a second line of defense or whatever. For right now, it is just a different overlord!

As far as speculation, you can check out my thoughts above.
http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?goto=131599#msg_num_29
      
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