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UEG Volleytom
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Thu, 20 February 2014 16:07
 
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pif:tom
nice afternoon game with better end for me
2:4
thx for the games, pif
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Davidb9 - Mercurey
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Thu, 20 February 2014 20:50
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David VAL 3+3
David Pifbat 4-2
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SMP Ishamael
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Sat, 22 February 2014 23:49
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played today. Anu_ vs Ishamael 3-3
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SMP Ishamael
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Sun, 23 February 2014 23:36
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and another tie in this peaceful group..  .. Pifbat-Ishamael 3-3
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Qorlas
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Mon, 24 February 2014 16:47
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FIRST DEADLINE PASSED
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Qorlas
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ACP Miguel
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Tue, 25 February 2014 00:52
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Qorlas, yes i've made several attempts still on the last one i made it was me that was in fault So i don't agree with the decision. I've sent maf a pm saying i would take the penalty.
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DrakeStorm
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Tue, 25 February 2014 07:42
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so what exactly is "non-optical" communication...
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Anu_
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Tue, 25 February 2014 17:20
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Anyone to play League this week?
I can play most of the days, except Saturday.
Please, send me your times and lets see if we can make it.
Anu
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~maf
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Tue, 25 February 2014 19:40
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I hâve not connection since 2 days, i can not accept a tie With migel without play. So i quit the league. I m sorry
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GenuineFauxFarm-CIA
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Tue, 25 February 2014 20:32
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Well, maf, that is quite the solution. I thought you were better than this. But, I must be wrong.
Miguel offers you credit and you throw it back into his face. I would find that insulting.
Qorlas posts rules multiple times and puts out reminders. He works to try to make this a good league and you throw your toys on the floor and pout in your room.
Schedules were difficult, time ran out and rules were known from the beginning. I don't suppose you would like it if you blocked me out of LA and I change the rules on the last turn and add stations so I can win? And, if you don't let me, I walk away crying because you won't let me change the rules?
If I am wrong about this, I am sorry. But, this is what it looks like to me.
Rob
GFF
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CIA Truckerteller
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Tue, 25 February 2014 21:07
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| ~maf wrote on Tue, 25 February 2014 19:40 |
I hâve not connection since 2 days, i can not accept a tie With migel without play. So i quit the league. I m sorry
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~maf
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Tue, 25 February 2014 22:15
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| GP GenuineFauxFarm écrit le Tue, 25 February 2014 20:32 |
Well, maf, that is quite the solution. I thought you were better than this. But, I must be wrong.
Miguel offers you credit and you throw it back into his face. I would find that insulting.
Qorlas posts rules multiple times and puts out reminders. He works to try to make this a good league and you throw your toys on the floor and pout in your room.
Schedules were difficult, time ran out and rules were known from the beginning. I don't suppose you would like it if you blocked me out of LA and I change the rules on the last turn and add stations so I can win? And, if you don't let me, I walk away crying because you won't let me change the rules?
If I am wrong about this, I am sorry. But, this is what it looks like to me.
Rob
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you dont know what happened between miguel and me, you dont know me.. So please keep your comments for yourself. You should be better than me. I ll talk with qorlas for mor explanation.
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Knockando - Apremont
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Tue, 25 February 2014 22:16
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| ~maf écrit le Tue, 25 February 2014 19:40 |
I hâve not connection since 2 days, i can not accept a tie With migel without play. So i quit the league. I m sorry
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Sometimes I just would like to say : sorry all to be french 
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Qorlas
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Tue, 25 February 2014 22:32
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Remind of the rules for the people asking:
d) TD reaction to clashes not played:
*TD will rule clashes not played at Monday 14.00 european time of a particular deadline (Monday morning to give the full days also to USA based players).
*TD will rule total wins, partial wins, double losses etc... according to his feeling about who is more at fault. In case of doubts about who is more at fault, he will rule double loss.
*TD will not contact players to help them schedule the games.
*TD will consider for the ruling only the info that reached him by PM or was posted in the forum 96 hours before the deadline time (so info reaching him before 14.00 Thursday European time of a particular deadline)
*Games scheduled but for every type of trouble not played in the last 96 hours will not be valued in the feeling about who was more at fault (you were too close too the deadline). Public attempts to schedule before the last 96 hours will be considered in the ruling.
*TD will post his rulings in the forum immediately after the deadline and he will not comment about them in public.
(TD will prepare the rulings before the weekend and will publish only the ones about the games not played in last weekend)
Deadline for that game was 24th February. I ruled it with the info (absence of info) I had
Remind:
*TD will post his rulings in the forum immediately after the deadline and he will not comment about them in public.
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~maf
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Tue, 25 February 2014 22:44
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Pour le respect que j'ai envers toi je vais FERMER ma g..., ca fait 2 fois que tu me juges sans rien savoir et ca m'aggace grave mais je vais le prendre sur moi. Arret de te meler de mes affaire ca suffira et je te conseil fortement d'effacer ce msg prématuré.
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UEG xbomanx
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ACP Miguel
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Wed, 26 February 2014 01:53
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Hi all.
To maf: ive send several pms and posted several available times that u never accpeted. You kept asking in the lobby about times that i alteady stated i could not play.
Yet we(i doubt the word we is correct altough) continued to seek a good time frame. By then i started sending the pms also to TD.
Finally we found a day and time but i missed it. By then i send a Pm to you saying i would take the loss. Even then u did not contact the TD.
TD rules for 4-0 to me.
I post in fórum saying i cannot take the win. Still that decision sticks. By then TD contacts me and again i explain it all. If we had agreed to play on thursday it wouldnt even count for This decision. But i strongly ask qorlas that the rulling in my opinion is not 100% fair.... And he rules for tie.
After what ive read my respect that was almost zero for you...became minus 100!
Sorry to all about This last posts that nothing added to TTR.
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UEG Volleytom
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~maf
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Thu, 27 February 2014 03:33
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recapitulation of the facts :
After proposing to miguel directly in the lobby to play for the league when he was there 2 or 3 times , he refused to play, don't know why, even if he was playing with others...
After that, all he proposed me for dates to play was only the 18th , 19th and 20th ( + a monday morning , morning I was working)
dates that were close to the deadline of the league.
At first, I had proposed to miguel other dates cause I couldn't come to those 3 days he proposed, but then I managed to free my shedule on the 19th at 22h30 PM.
And everybody knows he never showed up.
Miguel was aware that he proposed me only a few dates , that's why he was fair play by proposing to take forfait if I couldn't play those days , then chose to be fair play again, by taking the loss after he didn't show up to the appointment.
I'm writing all this to point out that it' not my fault if it was almost the end of league (to report results of matches)
Nevertheless, after rethinking I actually was there on sunday night playing , and I had seen Miguel's message and could have report results in the forum at that time , but I didn't know I would have connexion problems the next 2 days and I had planned to do it on monday.
Therefore it's indeed a bit my fault but I had all month to play and write results while Miguel proposed me only dates 5 days before the end , and wrote me this message to accept to take the loss on sunday at 6PM which is very late , I could have not seen it if I was not playing that night.
So at last, I don't understand the decision on match nul here ; even if rules stipulate this way in term of timing, but for me it should be clear that Miguel is the one that didn't show up and consequently it's 90% Miguel's fault and obvious he has to take the loss. (even with end timing rule)
I'm sorry if the decision of quiting the league seemed brutal but as it ruined my chances to win the league I chose that this match nul meant league nul for me.
ps : Note that I'll not be responding to the bad quotes that have been said torwards me, I consider those as unfair , judging me on a misunderstanding of bad luck timing.
I have also my impulsive temper that lead me to that decision of quiting, however it's just a game, I don't want to fight with people for a decision that was personnal and against maybe the rules but not people.
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Sysyphus - Pommard
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Comments about Rulings
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Thu, 27 February 2014 04:18
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I won't comment on the maf's situation but I guess maf and some other players can find answers among those general remarks about why we have rulings.
It is not as if we did not warn players several times before the tournament started.
About catching someone in the lobby :
A player has to accept that someone else does not want to play without notice. Playing random games during the day does not mean that you are ready to play competitive games.
Scheduling has to be made by pm as early as possible to give everybody a chance to play at a convenient time.
Scheduling by pm
League started January 10th, deadline was Feb 24th.
If one did not send any pm to a particular player before let's say Feb 5th/10th (already too late imo), you are putting yourself at risk of a ruling, especially if your opponent had already contacted you.
Players are accountable for their communication, do not blame the rules nor the TD.
If you know that you are off for 2 weeks, let people know... Dea is busy in March, she made sure our clash was played in February.
GFF/Knock will be busy later in spring, they have already taken steps to get those matches played...
A ruling
One ruling does not annihilate your chances of going up a division at the end of the season. Not only you can still claim one of the top 3 spots, but you can still work on your TELO.
Quitting the league not only ruins your tournament, your fun but also ruins your opponent's and organizers' tournament (I'd like to hear what MV thinks about losing 7 points without being concerned by the issue), and fun...
We made sure that scheduling attempts in the last 4 days were not taken into account in a ruling to avoid those kinds of reactions. Therefore there's no ground, no reason to discuss the rulings.
Accept the ruling, the consequences, man up and move on. Not that much of a big deal for anybody in the end.
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ACP Miguel
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Thu, 27 February 2014 04:58
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Maf again u are not making yourself look good.
and i quote pms that i sent or message written on league divison B thread
"Hi New League
lets start Smile
till 24th february round 1-5
so Maf, Yaelka, Marschall Vorwärts, Suburu
i have time to play (all times are Portuguese times, same as UK)
14 Jan from 14 till 19
15 Jan Morning
22 Jan from 14 till 19
23 Jan from 14 till late night (for me its ok to start untill 23)
for these next weeks this are the best time frames for me. anyone willing to start?
Enjoy
Miguel"
sent 21th january
"Maf, Yaelka, Marschall Vorwärts, Suburu
Available times (all CET)
21 January: Afternoon (start 15) + Night (till 23 or so)
22 January: After 21 pm (i leave work around 21)
23 January: Afternoon (starting 15 till 21)
26 Januray: Starting around 22 cet
Unsure about 24 but possible to play during early afternoon
27 January: Afternoon (start 15 can play until 20)
28 cant play
29 January: Afteroon (start around 15 till 21.30 or so)
so it seems i offered quite a lot...
As for playing, i've specifically said i wouldnt schedule via ttr chat or play spont. I often work while @work (yes my work sometimes allows that since i'm on call) meaning i can play a ttr game, not a league game. please read the rules about scheduling also.
so if u are stating something please try to be as accurate as possible, specially if there is a simple way of showing you are not.
as for you playing the league or not, couldnt care less!! rules were there from the start you should start by reading them.
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UEG Volleytom
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Thu, 27 February 2014 17:33
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...is thie still the right thread to post an ordinary result? 
i played against david this afternoon...me with marvellous colours and tix 
i had every track i needed at least 1 move before david
so
5,5:0,5
greetings
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Davidb9 - Mercurey
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Thu, 27 February 2014 21:48
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Grats Tom nightmare clash
But luck change
David Lucullupus 5-1
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SMP Ishamael
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Sat, 01 March 2014 14:18
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played today
maf - Ishamael 3-3
First 4 games went easily to the starter (although in game 3 maf could have been more lucky with drawing tickets). 5th game was very close but i just won it with LA-NY+Hel-LA vs 3 tickets (Sea-NY, NY-Dal,Win-LR): 131-130. Last game was the most interesting with LA-Mia+Chi-NO vs LA-NY, Mon-NO, Dal-NY. I decide not to try to block, and concentrate on my tickets. But near the end it seems I will lose, so I draw and find Tor-Mia, not easy to make, but I make it and finish the game, meanwhile maf was drawing closed to get 6 green. Then he loses connection and bot takes closed instead of playing the 6 green which would win: 123-130. We decide to count that score. I still draw but find nothing, final score: 111-130
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ACP Miguel
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Sat, 01 March 2014 20:41
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to my next opp:
ommie
Anu_
Lucullupus
Pifbat69
Ishamael
Val
my available times for next week:
4th March from 17 till night (i can cope with starting a game till 24 as i'm 1 hour behind)
5th March afternoon 14 till 20.30 (need to leave at 20.30)
6th March free day
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AAA_Lucullupus
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Sun, 02 March 2014 02:27
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Sorry Miguel,
but Tuesday is our fusion cup day and Wednesday and Thursday I am busy the whole day.
I can offer my next opponents (MV, ommie, Ishamael, Volleytom)
Monday 3rd, Friday 7th or Saturday 8th (European afternoon or evening)
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SMP Ishamael
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SMP Ishamael
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Mon, 03 March 2014 22:35
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Mon 3 21:00 CET Lucullupus - Ishamael 2-4
much better tix for me in most of the games
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RUST Patterson
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Wed, 05 March 2014 08:46
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Anyone available for tonight?
Preferred starting time 2030. Maybe a second game at 2200.
Please let me know here or via PM.
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SMP Ishamael
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Thu, 13 March 2014 17:10
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Anyone interested to play next Sunday 16th (any time)?
I would prefer one of my 2nd deadline opponents: MV, ommie, Miguel, Davidb9. But the others (yaelka, Drake, Volleytom, suburu) are welcome also.
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AAA_Lucullupus
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Fri, 14 March 2014 09:55
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Anyone (especially ommie, Miguel, Volleytom, MV) available for playing league on (all CET)
Friday, 14th (today): 20.00 - 0.00
Monday, 17th: 14.00 - 18.00, 20.00 - 0.00
Wednesday, 19th: 14.00 - 18.00.20.00 - 0.00
Thursday, 20th: 14.00 - 18.00
Have fun!
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Anu_
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~maf
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Sat, 15 March 2014 14:29
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Anu vs ~maf
2 - 4
Patterson vs ~maf
3 - 3
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Davidb9 - Mercurey
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Davidb9 - Mercurey
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Sun, 16 March 2014 10:08
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Bon il a quand même la tête dans le sac... on commence dans 5 min
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~maf
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Sun, 16 March 2014 11:17
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David & ~maf
2 - 4
J'avais effectivement la tête dans le sac, des parties intéressantes avec plus de loko de mon coté.
Tks for the games David
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SMP Ishamael
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Sun, 16 March 2014 21:52
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yaelka - Ishamael 6-0
got destroyed.. i had some changes here and there, but sometimes with a little luck Elka was always on top. well played!
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~maf
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Mon, 17 March 2014 22:36
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yaelka & ~maf
1 - 5
Luck Luck Luck Luck, i was just lucky
Tks for the games yaelka....
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UEG Volleytom
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Re:NEW League Season 1 Division B
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Mon, 17 March 2014 23:53
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ommie:tom
3:3
nice games...nice tie:-)
thx to mamyphys:-)
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i can only see that you dont play TTR on following days. 20.02.14 and 17.02.14. I do not spend more time for see what time are your absent before 10.02.2014. So please stop attack other players like GenuineFauxFarm or disagree with TD rulings. Sometimes its better to respect the decision and keep your mouth. The rullings are for all players the same and not allowed players to do something in single-handedly. 
