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Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Sat, 29 November 2014 13:29
Hi all! I am updating the groups as soon as first stage groups are completed

*Groups in second stage will be made up according to the placement in these groups with the following format:

Group 1:  A1, B2, C3, D4, E5
Group 2:  B1, C2, D3, E4, Alautre
Group 3:  C1, D2, E3, IL2T, Goupil
Group 4:  D1, E2, 335d, Zil, tempest0
Group 5:  E1, Sysyphus, CMEPTb, RV54, Maskaride
Group 6:  GSV3, Nicolas21, LOCA, Photios, A5
Group 7:  Diplodokus, Cromze, Qorlas, A4, B5
Group 8:  yaelka, SuperPello, A3, B4, C5
Group 9:  Cannonade, A2, B3, C4, D5

      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Mon, 01 December 2014 03:36

Group 1:  A1, B2, Benny, D4, E5
Group 2:  B1, Lirex, D3, E4, Alautre
Group 3:  Elric, D2, E3, IL2T, Goupil
Group 4:  D1, E2, 335d, Zil, tempest0
Group 5:  E1, Sysyphus, CMEPTb, RV54, Maskaride
Group 6:  GSV3, Nicolas21, LOCA, Photios, A5
Group 7:  Diplodokus, Cromze, Qorlas, A4, B5
Group 8:  yaelka, SuperPello, A3, B4, Kotjara
Group 9:  Cannonade, A2, B3, GFF, D5


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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Mon, 01 December 2014 23:24
Group 1:  A1, B2, Benny, Val, E5
Group 2:  B1, Lirex, Hecki, E4, Alautre
Group 3:  Elric, Ameteir, E3, IL2T, Goupil
Group 4:  Dandee, E2, 335d, Zil, tempest0
Group 5:  E1, Sysyphus, CMEPTb, RV54, Maskaride
Group 6:  GSV3, Nicolas21, LOCA, Photios, A5
Group 7:  Diplodokus, Cromze, Qorlas, A4, B5
Group 8:  yaelka, SuperPello, A3, B4, Kotjara
Group 9:  Cannonade, A2, B3, GFF, NextStop Unknown
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Tue, 02 December 2014 06:50
Group 1:  Ravage, B2, Benny, Val, E5
Group 2:  B1, Lirex, Hecki, E4, Alautre
Group 3:  Elric, Ameteir, E3, IL2T, Goupil
Group 4:  Dandee, E2, 335d, Zil, tempest0
Group 5:  E1, Sysyphus, CMEPTb, RV54, Maskaride
Group 6:  GSV3, Nicolas21, LOCA, Photios, A5
Group 7:  Diplodokus, Cromze, Qorlas, A4, B5
Group 8:  yaelka, SuperPello, onyx puffin, B4, Kotjara
Group 9:  Cannonade, Doc, B3, GFF, NextStop Unknown


Not sure how to place todd and aleo since they tied for 4th in group A and they have the same number of wins. What's the tie breaker ?
And do they split the finals points -1 each, which would seem more relevant- or tie breaker decides who gets 2 points and 0 point ?
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Tue, 02 December 2014 20:13
*Points:

they split the points (1 each). It is in the rules of original thread.

Quote:


Players arriving 1st in the groups get 10 points, 2nd 7 points, 3rd 4 points, 4th 2 points, 5th 0 points. In case of ties the ponts are divided.




*Tie-breaking in groups for successive placement in next phase:

forgot to add more options in the final rules Embarassed

Ok: Full version

Tie-breakers are in order: number of stages won, number of games won, Comparison of relative placement in the 5 games involving both players, TELO ranking at the start of tournament.


Game 1 Todd beats aleo
Game 4 aleo beats todd
Game 5 Todd beats Aleo
Game 6 Todd beats Aleo
Game 7 Aleo beats todd

Todd-Aleo 3-2

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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Tue, 02 December 2014 20:24
Correction on ranking after stage 1:

GROUP I

Photios is 4th and Amskaride is 5th for successive stage group placement.

BUT

They split the points of 4th and 5th place as indicated by the rules.

So they both get 1 point from first phase.
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Wed, 03 December 2014 00:00
it's fair, as Maskaride overall played better than me and I just took advantage of the last game where I had no chance and everybody just let me move from Vancouver to LA, completely unhindered. An easy but undeserved victory. Not that I complain!

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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Wed, 03 December 2014 00:26
Groups of second stage!

http://www.tickipedia.net/wiki/MPWC_2014-2015_phase_1_stage_ 2


Deadline 15th December!

You have time until 7th December to try to schedule the groups.
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Thu, 04 December 2014 12:24
After looking at the discussions in the 9 groups, I've noticed that it's getting more and more complicated to schedule the games, even with 5 players.
Just putting an idea on the table: Form the groups when the availabilities are known. Obviously, this is only available for the qualifications, not for semi or final. However, this would help.
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Thu, 04 December 2014 14:41
If scheduling is impossible I will rule out the scheduled date according to what I read in the forum and groups could be played with 4 players or even 3.

The mixing up of the groups is part of the new format... we need to test it out a little more before deciding it is impossible
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Thu, 04 December 2014 15:31
The problems of organization there will always be.

remains a game, not a job.

the ability to do a whole group in one evening for me is very positive.

the past few years was lost one evening for 2 or 3 games.

Wink
dan
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Fri, 05 December 2014 23:15
group 4

SIVORRO 28
335D 25
ZIL 21
DANDEE 20
TEMPEST0 7

thx all
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Fri, 05 December 2014 23:22
ITA dandee wrote on Sat, 06 December 2014 02:15

group 4

SIVORRO 28
335D 25
ZIL 21
DANDEE 20
TEMPEST0 7

thx all



What a competition!))
Before last 5er: 23-22-21.
Dan played bad 4er and can't made better then 4th place.
And last game my battle against 335d. He had 20+21, I had 22+9+6.
Longest and win for dan.
114-113 for me. Wow!
Thx all. We played about 2h10mibs. So fast.
Very exiting games.
Wish luck all of us!

cu

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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Tue, 09 December 2014 16:07
Qorlas écrit le Wed, 03 December 2014 00:26

Groups of second stage!

http://www.tickipedia.net/wiki/MPWC_2014-2015_phase_1_stage_ 2


Deadline 15th December!

You have time until 7th December to try to schedule the groups.


Could you add for next stage something like :" a player have to post before the 7th ALL his avaibilities until 15th December (yes or no or perhaps)" and not only for the 3 or 4 days following his post. It seems it would be really easier to schedule.

P.S. I'm just talking about CET evenings, it's incredible/unbearable to see so hard scheduling in some groups with all players available in CET evenings just because of bad communication from 1 or 2 players Sad
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Tue, 09 December 2014 18:35
Fully agree with your point. I will remind that on next stage.

Bad communication is really bad for this tournament
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Tue, 09 December 2014 22:54
Group 2 finished all games tonight (9/12):
Alautre 34, vassilis 23, lirex 16, Hecki 15, Morientes 13.
If we add the points from 1st stage (10-7-4-2-0):
Alautre 34, vassilis, 33, lirex 23, Hecki 19, Morientes 15.

Grats to Alautre, started with 0 points and came 1st!
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Tue, 09 December 2014 22:58
You don't add the points of first phase!

You add another 10-7-4-2-0 for this phase to theones of first stage.

So Alautre 10
vassilis 7
lirex 4
hecki 2
Morientes 0

to be added to the points awarded in first stage

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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Tue, 09 December 2014 23:09
OK, then:
vassilis 17 (10+7)
lirex 11 (7+4)
Alautre 10 (0+10)
Hecki 6 (4+2)
Morientes 2 (2+0)

Right?
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Wed, 10 December 2014 07:53
yep
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Wed, 10 December 2014 19:45
I tried to edit tickipedia with the results of our games (group 2), but it seems I have no permission to do it... However, I have kept the results, in case you need them.
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Wed, 10 December 2014 19:57
vassilis écrit le Wed, 10 December 2014 19:45

I tried to edit tickipedia with the results of our games (group 2), but it seems I have no permission to do it... However, I have kept the results, in case you need them.


There is no restriction of permission, strange... explain me by PM what is exactly the problem
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Sat, 13 December 2014 17:09
Groupe 5
Sysyphus  38       ----> 10
RV54      21       ----> 5.5
Maskaride 21       ----> 5.5
vigulisam 19       ----> 2
CMEPTb    2        ----> 0
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Sun, 14 December 2014 21:58
Group 1 Results Listed Below:

1st Magic Hansen (30)
2nd DrakeStorm (23)
3rd Benny (22)
4th Val (19)
5th Ravage (7)


Thanks,

Rav

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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Tue, 16 December 2014 18:15
It seems that the second phase will be concluded Wednesday.

I am personally aware that to schedule a Multi event can be stressing but at the same time all the 5 players in one group have definitely the right to have only well-defined times that can be dedicated to an hobby like play online Smile

The workgroup worked as a team to change the format to make it less stressing the majority of the players. The downside was to push out the USA based players from their enclosed group before the semifinals.


A couple of things that I wish to say also for future Multi tournaments.

*Think and think a lot if you are able to offer flexible schedules before you sign up in multis. You cannot think to have all the events in your preferred times when you need to accomodate 5 players at the same time. I didn't play in Multis in 2011 and 2012 for this reason and I had to concede a time bad for me in this stage by reformulating my real world schedule to give time to the games.

*I didn't make the revised rules by myself. They are a product of the workgroup working on tournaments... so I can apply the rules but I cannot change them while the tournament is LIVE. I cannot change the groups or the format because there is trouble in scheduling.
It is useless to give "comments" on them now... I am only applying them as they are. The time to work on the rules was before the tournament and will be again before the next one.... but it will not be my work! It is the work of the tournament workgroups.
When you play in football/soccer you can complain about the stupidity of the offside rules with the referee but you cannot ask the referee to change it Wink

Thanks to all the players that made the second phase possible!
The third phase will be similar but on a longer timeframe so I expect less trouble Smile

      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Wed, 17 December 2014 23:02
Group 8

Ironhorse2 32 points
Yaelka 26,33 points
SuperPello 20 points
Kotjara 11,33 points (one game won, if need)
Onyx 11,33 points (no game won)

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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Wed, 17 December 2014 23:53
Group 3

_ADR_ ran away during game 5.
Game 6 play with bot.

Elric 28 = 4+4+2+4+7+7
IL2T 24 = 2+7+7+2+4+2
ameteir 22 = 7+2+0+7+2+4
_ADR_ 0 (4 = 0+0+4+0+0+0)

I dont know about points in game 6. I have 2 or 0!? Shocked

Goupil 0 Not played

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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Thu, 18 December 2014 00:22
Group 3 still not defined. It will need to be officially ruled in the next hours.


The decision is in the hands of the referee panel. So anything could happen.

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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Thu, 18 December 2014 00:37
IL2T was 4th in final game. He Should have 22 points instead of 24. We were told to play a 4er with bot by SuperPello, Dandee, and Ommie. IL2 was blocked from connecting LA/Ny by Elric and I, and was in 4th place by a long shot.
Now it is being ruled that bot doesn't count in that game? If that is the case, we need to replay game as a 3er....it isn't fair to give IL2 points after the fact and just discount the bot all of a sudden. Not having a bot in the whole game changes things. Results would have been different.

Another issue is during game 5, ADR didn't want to play, but then reluctantly played and vocalized that he had it out for me because I was in the lead overall (2 wins out of first 4 games), tthen blocked me 5 times, and then left the game on purpose with the last half game as bot, leaving me hurting, but Elric and IL2 unaffected.

I think it to be unfair to count Game 5 as is, and also to change game 6 after the fact, as it affected the overall results in this group.

Only the first 4 games were legit and according to rules.
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Thu, 18 December 2014 00:49
Ranking is updated (ranking after 2 stages in column "3rd stage"), but it could be modified for ameteir and IL2T, depending of the decision of TD (4 and 7 or 5.5 and 5.5...or 7 and 7...or anything else Rolling Eyes )

But everybody can check if no mistakes for other players Smile

http://www.tickipedia.net/wiki/MPWC_2014-2015_ranking


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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Thu, 18 December 2014 01:33
Ruling for Group 3:


*ADR left the games during game 5 of the series.
He is placed last in this group with 0 points.
He receives a warning because he left the games.

*Goupil forfeited the games days ago and he is placed last in the
group with 0 points.

* Game 5 was finished by the bot replacind ADR: The game is considered not valid

* Game 6 should have been played by the 3 remaining players without the bot. Therefore the last game is considered without the bot.


* The group is considered finished with games 1,2,3,4,6

Ranking: Elric 21 (1 win) 10 points
IL2T 20 (2 wins) 5.5 points
Ameteir 20 (2 wins) 5.5 points
ADR 0
Goupil 0
      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Thu, 18 December 2014 01:40
After 2 stages:

Elric	10	10	1	20	(2-5-54)
Sysyphus	7	10	2	17	(1-5-59)
Cromze	7	10	3	17	(1-5-58)
yaelka	10	7	4	17	(1-5-55.33)
Magic Hansen	7	10	5	17	(1-5-53)
vassilis	10	7	6	17	(1-3-52)
Sivorro	5,5	10	7	15.5	(1-3-52.5)
LOCA	4	10	8	14	(1-3-55)
ameteir	7	5.5	8	12.5	(0-5-46.5)
nicolas21	7	5,5	10	12.5	(0-3.5-44.5)
GSV3	10	2	11	12	(1-6-50)
Ironhorse2	2	10	12	12	(1-5-51)
vigulisam	10	2	13	12	(1-4.5-46)
GenuineFauxFarm	2	10	14	12	(1-4-49)
dandee	10	2	15	12	(1-4-48)
cannonade	10	2	16	12	(1-3-40)
335d Touring	4	7	17	11	(0-4-42)
SuperPello	7	4	18	11	(0-3-42)
lirex	7	4	19	11	(0-2.5-41.5)
Knockando	4	7	20	11	(0-2-42)
Diplodokus	10	0	21	10	(1-3-36.5)
Alautre	0	10	22	10	(1-3-34)
AT Ravage	10	0	23	10	(1-2-31)
toddcalu	1	7	24	8	(0-3-42)
benny	4	4	25	8	(0-2-40)
IL2T	2	5.5	26	7.5	(0-2-32)
RV54	2	5,5	27	7.5	(0-1-37)
- Doc -	7	0	28	7	(0-3-35)
DrakeStorm	0	7	29	7	(0-2-33)
alfredleopold	1	5,5	30	6.5	(0-2-40)
Maskaride	1	5,5	31	6.5	(0-0-38)
Hecki	4	2	32	6	(0-2-33)
=ZiL=	2	4	33	6	(0-1-38)
Qorlas	4	2	34	6	(0-1-37)
_ADR_	5,5	0	35	5.5	(0-1.5-30.5)
onyx puffin	4	1	36	5	(0-1-32.33)
Nextstop unknown	0	4	37	4	(0-3-31)
CMEPTb	4	0	38	4	(0-2-21.5)
Val	2	2	39	4	(0-1-36.5)
Lucullupus	0	4	40	4	(0-1-32)
Morientes ZL	2	0	41	2	(0-2-28)
Kotjara ZL	0	1	42	1	(0-1.5-26.88)
Photios	1	0	43	1	(0-1-26)
Goupil	0	0	44	0	(0-1.5-14.5)
tempest0	0	0	45	0	(0-1-14)

      
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Re:Multiplayer Winter Championship Qualifying round... stage 2 Thu, 18 December 2014 07:55
Rank after 2nd stage 
1 Elric
2 Sysyphus
3 Cromze
4 yaelka
5 Magic Hansen
6 vassilis
7 Sivorro
8 LOCA
9 ameteir
10 nicolas21
11 GSV3
12 Ironhorse2
13 vigulisam
14 GenuineFauxFarm
15 dandee
16 cannonade
17 335d Touring
18 SuperPello
19 lirex
20 Knockando
21 Diplodokus
22 Alautre
23 AT Ravage
24 toddcalu
25 benny
26 IL2T
27 RV54
28 - Doc -
29 DrakeStorm
30 alfredleopold
31 Maskaride
32 Hecki
33 =ZiL=
34 Qorlas
35 _ADR_
36 onyx puffin
37 Nextstop unknown
38 CMEPTb
39 Val
40 Lucullupus
41 Morientes ZL
42 Kotjara ZL
43 Photios
44 Goupil
45 tempest0
      
    
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