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Sysyphus
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Nations Cup 2016 Thu, 12 May 2016 06:00
Hi all,

We are 2 days away from the start of SPWC, and we barely have 40 players in. Different factors made me step away from TTR for a bit, and I don't feel the urge to come back full time.

That's why I won't be organizing/taking care of NC this year, and will leave it to someone else.

The transition to the new platform is a total failure (from the community point of view). That was fun to participate in the development of the new platform (thanks Eric for your great communication) but the business model does not, unfortunately, match the development of the community.

There is no chance for us to grow and/or to replace the players who are taking a break from the community. Moreover, the community aspect of the game has been reduced to nothing.
TTR was an online (board)game, it is now an Ipad app where the solo experience/purchase prevails over the social aspect of the game.

Little has come out of our discussions with Rasmussen. I personally did not want to organize tournaments on a technically flawed platform. I also had a pm from a lady in charge of social networks for Asmodee, I am still waiting for a thanks to my lengthy answer...
A few tweets/facebook posts won't gather people together. That's surely not how we got 200 players playing NC at the same time.

I will also spend my summer in France, I'd like to enjoy that time 200%. It is not a given that the Red TGV will be playing next NC either. We will discuss it during our meeting this summer.

For those reasons, it's time for someone else to run NC.


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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Thu, 12 May 2016 12:30
Crying or Very Sad

everything you wrote is correct.
the community is a little tired, especially the old big.

if we want this beautiful thing continues, we need a sense of responsibility and interest by everyone.

I hope this happens. but I have my doubts.

dan


      
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Thu, 12 May 2016 16:07
I can HELP with NC 2016, but I cannot run it. The early work is still during a very busy part of farming season. I can do more towards the end of NC. Or alternatively, I can run another tourney along with SMC next year during Winter months.

Rob
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Thu, 12 May 2016 21:43
I'm on vacation all summer.
I can help, run or something else.

Cheers

Stas
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Fri, 13 May 2016 01:51
First of all, many thanks to all those who have toiled so much to make this community what it is and for all the hard work for the tournaments/leagues/etc. Thumbs Up Smile

Sysy nails the points, and while it surely seems that with all the recent changes, techno problems, etc. that the community has taken a hit, I for one hope it's not a fatal one.

With that in mind, though my time is somewhat limited and my knowledge of how everything runs around here even more limited, I am willing to try and lend a hand in any way if that will help. Just need a patient teacher Wink Know of any? Razz

And lastly, Juju, we all know the reason that Red is wondering what to do about next NC if there is one: still reeling from the last result? Our cap will console you all this summer Razz

Cheers,

Ross
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Fri, 13 May 2016 05:14
CIA scorps wrote on Fri, 13 May 2016 01:51



Sysy nails the points, and while it surely seems that with all the recent changes, techno problems, etc. that the community has taken a hit, I for one hope it's not a fatal one.


To be fair, the day players had to pay to play instead of having a code in the box (with 3,000,000 boxes sold, it was pretty logical after all) stopped the constant flow of new players interested in tournaments, excepted for Italians/Russians/Ukranians.
From a pool of players mainly interested in boardgames, we now have a pool of new players interested in being busy 5 minutes during the bus commute.

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With that in mind, though my time is somewhat limited and my knowledge of how everything runs around here even more limited, I am willing to try and lend a hand in any way if that will help. Just need a patient teacher Wink Know of any? Razz



It is more a communication job than anything else.
1. Review the rules with the players concerned (dea/Truck/Qorlas)
2. Contact Maximour to provide a list of players
Send pm all around to motivate players
3. Contact Knock/DN if they are ok to do prepare ticki.
Send pm all around to motivate players
4. Contact and kick the butts of captains to get their team ready.
Send pm all around to motivate players
5. Launch and close registration threads.
Send pm all around to motivate players
6. Prepare a schedule.
Tell Kasi that he's played 100 games over the last 2 weeks, that he has time to enter a tournament
7. Make sure Opening QTs, Heroes/Captains QT are organized.
Send pm all around to motivate players

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And lastly, Juju, we all know the reason that Red is wondering what to do about next NC if there is one: still reeling from the last result? Our cap will console you all this summer Razz


Some Red players will be there, at least me Wink

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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Fri, 13 May 2016 15:02
Fully agree with what Julien said
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Sun, 05 June 2016 11:05
Sysyphus - Pommard schrieb am Fri, 13 May 2016 05:14


6. Prepare a schedule.
Tell Kasi that he's played 100 games over the last 2 weeks, that he has time to enter a tournament




Very Happy Without reading that, and without a mail from anybody, I take part in SPWC. Just cause Elka asked a bit disappointed, that I again don't take part. So I registered after deadline and was luckily participant. Give HER that job, u will have a crowd of 1000 players participating all tournaments. Or can U resist her???? Laughing

But seriously, it's something else to open a game, when u have time, and play it in 5 min, or to schedule a fixed appointment vs tops, when u have to play 7 games à 20-30min Smile. Yes, U're right, the 2nd is much more exciting!!! Laughing Thats why I played Fusion and play SPWC already. So, GET UP AND PLAY, COMMUNITY!

Carsten
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Sat, 25 June 2016 21:26
Intro:
I'm OK to assist with rules and schedule as usual, I will be neither organizer nor TD.


Topic:
If NC shall happen we'd better bring this to a conclusion soon.

1) Who is the organizer?
2) Who is the TD?
3) What's the decision whether the mandatory platform (that has to be used if 2 players don't find an agreement where they want to play) is Web or Steam?

For team formation we need to know #3 really soon, as there are players who won't (or may need to be convinced?) play if it is one or the other.

In any case (as there will be matches that are played on Steam if players like to do that) we need to start working on the rules soon (Steam rules have to be added), so we need the TD.

Without an organizer we won't get any of that ...
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Mon, 27 June 2016 02:02
As I said before I can try it.

Default platform for this year is unfortunately java.

Yes rules for steam have to be done.
As I see it:
30 mins per player
Observable for all
Ranked
No bot

If any bag happens during official game players must make screenshots and send it to TD.
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Tue, 28 June 2016 20:31
Rules are not that easy - I open another thread to dicuss them as it's not only relevant for NC
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Mon, 11 July 2016 10:38
End of Nation Cup ? Crying or Very Sad
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Mon, 11 July 2016 18:19
No.
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Tue, 12 July 2016 02:48
dea1 wrote on Sat, 25 June 2016 15:26

Intro:
I'm OK to assist with rules and schedule as usual, I will be neither organizer nor TD.

Topic:
If NC shall happen we'd better bring this to a conclusion soon.

1) Who is the organizer?
2) Who is the TD?
3) What's the decision whether the mandatory platform (that has to be used if 2 players don't find an agreement where they want to play) is Web or Steam?

For team formation we need to know #3 really soon, as there are players who won't (or may need to be convinced?) play if it is one or the other.

In any case (as there will be matches that are played on Steam if players like to do that) we need to start working on the rules soon (Steam rules have to be added), so we need the TD.

Without an organizer we won't get any of that ...


So I realize this is summer and slow time for TTR online. (always has been)

But as Sivorro notes, Nation's Cup will happen. I think there may be less teams, but a Nation's Cup will happen.

Truly the questions dea raises above need to be answered.

So A. Do we have an organizer who patiently can guide us through Sysyphus 7 items?
1. Review the rules with the players concerned
2. Contact Maximour to provide a list of players
3. Contact Knock/DN if they are ok to do prepare ticki.
4. Contact and kick the butts of captains to get their team ready.
5. Launch and close registration threads.
6. Prepare a schedule.
7. Make sure Opening QTs, Heroes/Captains QT are organized.

I am willing to do #6 or #7, or maybe #4 if needed. Whoever is organizer can give me one of the duties. sounds like scorps and others may be willing to take some as well.

B. Do we know if Truck is willing to be TD? He does an excellent job with it.

C. Where are we on the platform rules, compromising issues, besides noting that online is preferred platform? Can we make some adaptation to allow for boards that can or need to play on Steam go into slot 3? or some such compromise?
(yes, I look for the peaceful solution even though it is fraught with concerns on if a team will even have player capable of multiple platforms and the 'strategy' of placement of the 4 boards.)


      
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Tue, 12 July 2016 11:42
RUS Sivorro écrit le Mon, 11 July 2016 18:19

No.



Good news Smile

      
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Thu, 04 August 2016 16:09
Sysyphus - Pommard wrote on Fri, 13 May 2016 06:14


1. Review the rules with the players concerned (dea/Truck/Qorlas)
2. Contact Maximour to provide a list of players done
3. Contact Knock/DN if they are ok to do prepare ticki.
4. Contact and kick the butts of captains to get their team ready.
5. Launch and close registration threads. Lauched
6. Prepare a schedule. dea, are you in?
7. Make sure Opening QTs, Heroes/Captains QT are organized.



      
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Fri, 05 August 2016 15:07
RUS Sivorro wrote on Thu, 04 August 2016 16:09

Sysyphus - Pommard wrote on Fri, 13 May 2016 06:14


6. Prepare a schedule. dea, are you in?





Well, you already prepared one, so I can only comment on it:
*) I'm missing the Deadline for National Teams Registration.
*) I think it's all one week too late - a Final between Dec 21 and 31 is not realistic.

If the timeframe stays as it is I can't help with the assignment of teams to groups and the RR schedule of matches because I won't be available from Sep 9 - 18.
But Truckerteller - he is TD again, correct? - normally did that on his own anyhow so you shouldn't need me.
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Thu, 11 August 2016 02:27
RUS Sivorro wrote on Thu, 04 August 2016 17:09

Sysyphus - Pommard wrote on Fri, 13 May 2016 06:14


1. Review the rules with the players concerned (dea/Truck/Qorlas)
2. Contact Maximour to provide a list of players done
3. Contact Knock/DN if they are ok to do prepare ticki.
4. Contact and kick the butts of captains to get their team ready.
5. Launch and close registration threads. Lauched
6. Prepare a schedule. dea, are you in?
7. Make sure Opening QTs, Heroes/Captains QT are organized.






Tried to kick all butts.
Knock ok with ticki. Dom don't answer for a moment. Francois ok too.
Need we review the rules?
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2016 Sun, 21 August 2016 19:24
Ticki's NC 2016 first page started.

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