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  Speculations ..... Fri, 08 September 2006 22:04
As we now know, that the Big Thing to come is Battlelore, let's speculate, what might come with the game and tell the guys from DoW, what we desperately need Very Happy in a C&C-Game in Fantasy-Setting.

The obvious: Humans, Dwarves, Elves, Orcs, Dark-Elves, Undeads, Wizards, Kings, Good & Evil, Dragons, Griffins, Swords, Bows, Axes, Horses, maybe Ships, Castles, Dungeons, Towers, .... and a beautiful Princess Cool

Would be nice if "Overlore-Scenarios" would be possible.

Then somehow I expect the possibility to muster the troups you need for every scenario - a (wiiiiiiiide!!) range of troops one may chose units from to make different strategies possible, and a good campaign - mode where some Role-Playing should be possible. Best of course would be that one could play the humans or the dwarves or the elves - whatever race you d like to play - or at least a bonus if you choose units from only one race.

Do I expect too much? Rolling Eyes
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Fri, 08 September 2006 22:33
To be honest, this is a new realm for me. Shadows over Camelot is the closest I have come to any type of medieval/fantasy game. I am not sure what to expect but seeing the epic scope of it all, I would expect it to go above and beyond what Memoir 44 has done. So far the speculation has been enough for me to hold off on getting War of the Rings which I had been eyeing for quite some time.

I would love to see Overlord-type scenarios - and the press release I read this morning relates that this will be a 2 player or 2-team game. My only hesitation with the overlord is that memoir 44 was easy to pick up two of every copy. Ancients' price hindered me from getting two sets as I would rather spend the money on the expansions. With a MSRP of $70, two box expansions sceduled for next year, and monthly releases of blister packs, it will be very hard justifying 2 sets to get to the the overlord scenarios.

So my suggestion is that additional boards be available individually (ala Winter/Desert Board) so that we can play the Overlord w/o blowing our lunch money for the whole year.
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Fri, 08 September 2006 23:55
I guess I expect BattleLore to be in direct competition to the warhammer fantasy type game. I'm thinking we'll see expansions based on race or culture... expansions based on terrain...

should be a fun ride!
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 09 September 2006 14:25
I posted this one earlier but my computer locked up in the middle of it. I wanted to compile what we know so far to help focus our speculations:

Figures
210 figs come in the base box. (Memoir 44 gaves us 2/3 of that). With the new Banner Bearer figure - which the game has 58 of them - that gives as an average unit size of 3.6 figures. So it sounds like we are going to have the standard 3 or 4 figures per unit. I would imagine we would see a few more single figure "units" and quite possibly units that contain 5+ figs.

Eric said in Tom Vasel's interview that the base game will come with 17 different sculpts (vs Memoir 44's 5 figure sculpts). All of the pieces will look the same (gray) and will be distinguished between the Banners. The bulk of the initial pieces will represent humans with a few mercenaries represented by Goblins and Dwarves. The exapansions will focus on new races and terrain.

Figures are aslo going to be about 25% larger than Memoir 44 (for humans). The Hill Giant is closer to scale on the Shadows over Camelot knights - though I get the impression it will be slightly larger. The special figure that will be included in the base game is the spider.

The Banner Bearers sound like they are similar to the Flag Bearers in Battle Cry: they will look just like the other figures for that type of unit but will have a banner on their stand. However, the Banner will be interchangeable on the figures. The banner gives info based on shape, color, graphics, etc. will tell you how the units will fucntion. With the Red Dwarf figure, we can see a shape, a predominant color (supposedly why this dwarf is a "Red" one!), a fleur-de-lis, and a now familiar cross swords symbol that harkens back to Battle Cry and Ancients (in Memoir, the Grenade replaced the cross-sabers).
http://blog.battlelore.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/red-dwarf.jpg

Player's Guide
The rules are going to have nearly 80 pages. Though Eric warned not to be afraid of the book as master of the pages is not necessary to play the game. A seperate adventure booklet is also publicized which I guess will include the scenarios.

Gameboard & Tiles
Sounds like the typical two-sided board that we saw with Memoir. However, no hex dimensions have been given (Assuming it is the same as the other C&C game though) and no word yet if the size goes beyond the typical 9 x 13 hex board. The game is supposed to be able to support more mass scale battles instead of tactical skirmishes. So maybe we can hope for a mauch larger initial board.

There are 46 tiles - similar to Memoir's 44. We can see a preview here of an outpost with a crown symbol. It is quite possible that the crown represents some faction, and thus ownership of the tile. But it also may trigger some other mechanic in the game when figures are on it.

Cards
The command cards sound like the typical 60-card deck. I assume we will have the standard Section cards where you move X amount of units in Y section. The "tactic" cards might be a bit different. The fact that the expansions will come with cards implies that maybe the tactic cards will be able to be switched out. Playing goblins, customize the deck for goblins? It also sounds like different figures will impact the number of cards you can hold.

Something new is the 60 Lore cards. Not sure what this will encompass. Are these cards played seperately from the command cards? Do they represent specific Lore Masters?

This game offers 42 Summary Cards! 42?!? We need a summary card to summarize the summary cards! Hopefully, this means each side will receive 21 cards each because this is a lot of info!

Other Items
2 War Council sheets - my first impression was that this sounds like a possible summary sheet on par with Ancients sheets. However, the interview with Eric made it sound like this is an integral part of the game itself. This may be the "command center" of your side - allowing you to determine the special powers of your team.

There are also 24 Lore Master tokens? Same as the Lore cards, what could these do? Is the rogue pic we got representative of the Lore Master tokens? Again, does this represent a figure in the game? Does this token represent you, as the player? Will it effect all of your forces?
http://blog.battlelore.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/bl_rogue.jpg

Like Memoir, we see that DOW plans to support this game extensively on the website. An online editor for scenarios will be available with the registration of one BattleLore game.

Finally, we show that there are 12 battle dice. Obviously, one person can use as many dice as need be, but shifting the per person dice up from 4 a piece to 6 a piece is a good sign that more dice will be needed on a typical dice roll.

Overall, I am very excited about this game. I wanted to break into fantasy games and had been eyeing War of the Ring for quite some time. But this one combines two other great factors. The first being Richard's system. I have not yet tired of the system. And while Ancients has been the most complex, I still play Battle Cry also. On top of that, my girlfriend understands the concept of the system and is willing to play the game. BattleLore promises to be more complex than Ancients. Finally, I have always been impressed by Days of Wonder. They have some of the most beautiful games and have found creative ways to introduce new mechanics to board games. Further, they have one of the most extensive and interactive online support systems. I anxiously await the sneak peeks that will be coming out before the November release.

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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 09 September 2006 16:42
Excellent recap of what was probably a not-so-great-sounding interview (I was really tired from jet-lag, despite not being the one who had to rise up at 4;00 am. That was Tom's unfortunate task Very Happy .

Just one quick precision (I'll keep other comments for future blog entries): The 17 sculpts count include the Hill Giant and the Earth Elemental promo figures that will be available separately. In the game box proper, there are 15 different types of sculpts.

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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 09 September 2006 16:54
ColtsFan76 wrote on Sat, 09 September 2006 08:25

I posted this one earlier but my computer locked up in the middle of it. I wanted to compile what we know so far to help focus our speculations:

Figures
210 figs come in the base box. (Memoir 44 gaves us 2/3 of that). With the new Banner Bearer figure - which the game has 58 of them - that gives as an average unit size of 3.6 figures. So it sounds like we are going to have the standard 3 or 4 figures per unit. I would imagine we would see a few more single figure "units" and quite possibly units that contain 5+ figs.

Eric said in Tom Vasel's interview that the base game will come with 17 different sculpts (vs Memoir 44's 5 figure sculpts). All of the pieces will look the same (gray) and will be distinguished between the Banners. The bulk of the initial pieces will represent humans with a few mercenaries represented by Goblins and Dwarves. The expansions will focus on new races and terrain.

Figures are aslo going to be about 25% larger than Memoir 44 (for humans). The Hill Giant is closer to scale on the Shadows over Camelot knights - though I get the impression it will be slightly larger. The special figure that will be included in the base game is the spider.

The Banner Bearers sound like they are similar to the Flag Bearers in Battle Cry: they will look just like the other figures for that type of unit but will have a banner on their stand. However, the Banner will be interchangeable on the figures. The banner gives info based on shape, color, graphics, etc. will tell you how the units will fucntion. With the Red Dwarf figure, we can see a shape, a predominant color (supposedly why this dwarf is a "Red" one!), a fleur-de-lis, and a now familiar cross swords symbol that harkens back to Battle Cry and Ancients (in Memoir, the Grenade replaced the cross-sabers).
[img]http://blog.battlelore.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/red-dw arf.jpg[/img]

Player's Guide
The rules are going to have nearly 80 pages. Though Eric warned not to be afraid of the book as master of the pages is not necessary to play the game. A seperate adventure booklet is also publicized which I guess will include the scenarios.

Gameboard & Tiles
Sounds like the typical two-sided board that we saw with Memoir. However, no hex dimensions have been given (Assuming it is the same as the other C&C game though) and no word yet if the size goes beyond the typical 9 x 13 hex board. The game is supposed to be able to support more mass scale battles instead of tactical skirmishes. So maybe we can hope for a mauch larger initial board.

There are 46 tiles - similar to Memoir's 44. We can see a preview here of an outpost with a crown symbol. It is quite possible that the crown represents some faction, and thus ownership of the tile. But it also may trigger some other mechanic in the game when figures are on it.

Cards
The command cards sound like the typical 60-card deck. I assume we will have the standard Section cards where you move X amount of units in Y section. The "tactic" cards might be a bit different. The fact that the expansions will come with cards implies that maybe the tactic cards will be able to be switched out. Playing goblins, customize the deck for goblins? It also sounds like different figures will impact the number of cards you can hold.

Something new is the 60 Lore cards. Not sure what this will encompass. Are these cards played seperately from the command cards? Do they represent specific Lore Masters?

This game offers 42 Summary Cards! 42?!? We need a summary card to summarize the summary cards! Hopefully, this means each side will receive 21 cards each because this is a lot of info!

Other Items
2 War Council sheets - my first impression was that this sounds like a possible summary sheet on par with Ancients sheets. However, the interview with Eric made it sound like this is an integral part of the game itself. This may be the "command center" of your side - allowing you to determine the special powers of your team.

There are also 24 Lore Master tokens? Same as the Lore cards, what could these do? Is the rogue pic we got representative of the Lore Master tokens? Again, does this represent a figure in the game? Does this token represent you, as the player? Will it effect all of your forces?
[img]http://blog.battlelore.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/bl_rog ue.jpg[/img]

Like Memoir, we see that DOW plans to support this game extensively on the website. An online editor for scenarios will be available with the registration of one BattleLore game.

Finally, we show that there are 12 battle dice. Obviously, one person can use as many dice as need be, but shifting the per person dice up from 4 a piece to 6 a piece is a good sign that more dice will be needed on a typical dice roll.

Overall, I am very excited about this game. I wanted to break into fantasy games and had been eyeing War of the Ring for quite some time. But this one combines two other great factors. The first being Richard's system. I have not yet tired of the system. And while Ancients has been the most complex, I still play Battle Cry also. On top of that, my girlfriend understands the concept of the system and is willing to play the game. BattleLore promises to be more complex than Ancients. Finally, I have always been impressed by Days of Wonder. They have some of the most beautiful games and have found creative ways to introduce new mechanics to board games. Further, they have one of the most extensive and interactive online support systems. I anxiously await the sneak peeks that will be coming out before the November release.


Speculating along with ColtsFan76 ...
( it is fun to Speculate!! )
Maybe the 17 different figs gives us some nice unit type fig variations or individuals- leader/heros/wizard figs. Thought either would mean some expense w/molds (!?) And Eric said the bulk of figs were HYW humans. But 17 !?!??! WoW

Player Guide..
80 Pages !!! _ Well I guess a whole fantasy world needs to be created. There will be the C&C unit combat to explain, the creation and combat of 'lore masters'-leader/heros/wizard. And the rules with Monsters that Eric said were handled differently than the C&C rules we are use to (????) Will be interesting on how the rules interface!
Calling the battle scenarios 'adventures' was confusing at first.

Game board...
Yea, I hope its a slightly larger board to handle all this 'hack & slash' & magic flying around,,ha-ha

60 Lore cards
Maybe they're the spec. cards for all these Wizards, Clerics, Warriors and Rogues you gather in "customizable War Councils"?

Summary Cards
We didn't use all the Summary Cards at once when we play an M44 scenario and
we did complain we wanted more Summary Cards on terrain & units with the M44 expansion !!??

Other items...
He did say he didn't want players to constantly have to refer to the rules book. So the War Council sheets may be quick reference sheets, I bet your right.
Lore Master tokens - couldn't these be like the markers in M44?

12 battle dice
Maybe,, say.. theses are different colored sets of dice for monster, units & Lore Master,,, with different hit percentages/ results ??

I am like you this does sound like an exciting/fun game!
What with the constant referencing by Eric with phrases like 'open-ended', 'flexible', 'robust'', 'a lot of tools on line' , opportunity's to build your own 'adventures'-and [armies ??- Yea!! ] The opportunity to create _ 'scenarios from the front' feature will really get the guys imagination cook'in !!!
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 09 September 2006 17:00
It's even more than I thought ....
I really get excited 'bout BattleLore, seems there will be no limit for this game -
just one more question: What size will the 'standard' figurines be? In the Interview Eric talks a lot about mass-combat - what makes me thionk of the LotR movies Rolling Eyes

Would be nice if I could use my old 15mm all-painted figurines with this game - a reason more to buy it - what I will do anyway Nod
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 09 September 2006 18:46
céro wrote on Sat, 09 September 2006 10:00

It's even more than I thought ....
I really get excited 'bout BattleLore, seems there will be no limit for this game -
just one more question: What size will the 'standard' figurines be? In the Interview Eric talks a lot about mass-combat - what makes me thionk of the LotR movies Rolling Eyes

Would be nice if I could use my old 15mm all-painted figurines with this game - a reason more to buy it - what I will do anyway Nod

He said the standard figure will be about 25% larger than the M44 figures. Ther are approximately 1/72 scale - or 1 inch = 6 feet. so for a standard 6 foot human figure, it would be approximately 1.25 inches. What scale does that make it? 1/56 in my head. I don't know what that translates to in mm w/o looking something up.

So dwarves are going to be slighlty smaller and stockier - probably just a bit shorter than the M44 figures are now.

The figures for SoC just taller than 1.5 inches - which is about a 1/48 scale. I guess I am expecting the Hill Giant to be about 2 inches or so. Maybe we can hope for more!
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 09 September 2006 18:47
eric wrote on Sat, 09 September 2006 09:42

Excellent recap of what was probably a not-so-great-sounding interview (I was really tired from jet-lag, despite not being the one who had to rise up at 4;00 am. That was Tom's unfortunate task Very Happy


For a minute there, I thought you were going to tell me not to believe everything on the internet again Wink

It was a good job. It took a few minutes to get used to the accent Very Happy but after that I thought it was an excellent interview.
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sun, 10 September 2006 20:09
Maybe the Lore cards operate the magic system? Will we be able to set up Pelennor Fields and Helm's Deep with this system?
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Mon, 11 September 2006 22:41
New info on the banners.....

From the new post, we see that there are at least 2 different banner shapes.

Each banner will determine unit type with a symbol that will presumably match the dice symbols. So far we see Archers, Cavalry, and Warriors.

Each banner will have one of (at least) 3 colors - Red for Heavy, Green for Light, and we assume Blue for Medium. This follows the C&C:A classifications. We have the ability to "upgrade" units from class to class.

Each Banner also have some other unique characteristics. 1 is the shape mentioned already. 2 is about 1/3 of the banner that has a unique design. We see that the Knight has a checkered pattern while the Goblin and Orc have a slid color with a fleur-de-lis on it. (Note, this are just sample images - not to imply that all humans will have the checkered pattern or that goblins and dwarves are identified the same way. 3 - Possible distinction with the "class" system. The Knight has a lion shaped Red Area while the other figures show a Stripped red, blue, and green, area. 4 - Possible distinction with the color of the units type. We see both black and white cavalry. This may be a means of determining ownership - or it may just be a visable offset because of the background. Regardless, this is all we have visually!
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Mon, 11 September 2006 22:57
It's not all - seems there is the possibility to 'upgrade' your troups from green to blue then red. Is this while the game(battle) ist on? Or can you upgrade only veterans- units that survibed the last battle - or ist it a matter of the lore-cards?
While the answers slowly come in from DoW the more and more question arise - and I still would like to see a mini from very near (big picture) with all the details it has - I already love this game Cool
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Wed, 13 September 2006 04:14
More interviews here:
http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/9292.html

Sounds like the boards will be expandable. One side will be "framed" so to speak like the Memoir 44. The back side of the board will be "half" the board so you can easily butt it up to another board to make the "overlord" version. But instead of "overlord scenario" it will be called "epic adventure" Somewhat dissapointed in this. i was hoping to be able to extend the board in all directions - not just two side by side.

Little more info on the banners. Sounds like the two shapes on the previews are all we get in the base game. So one has to wonder if the two banner styles - one with a Lion head and one with a fluer-de-lis is all we going to get or if they will make each plastic banner type have multiple banner stickers. Also sounds like the banners are glued on so we don't have to put on stickers like we did for Ancients.

Sounds like we will get archers and crossbowman and they have different abilities.
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Wed, 13 September 2006 04:46


Would be nice if I could use my old 15mm all-painted figurines with this game - a reason more to buy it - what I will do anyway Nod [/quote]
He said the standard figure will be about 25% larger than the M44 figures. Ther are approximately 1/72 scale - or 1 inch = 6 feet. so for a standard 6 foot human figure, it would be approximately 1.25 inches. What scale does that make it? 1/56 in my head. I don't know what that translates to in mm w/o looking something up.



25% bigger than 1/72 scale would be 25 mm, as 1/72 is 20mm.



      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 16 September 2006 00:40
just saw an interesting picture of the supposed Battlelore-gameboard on the french Asmodee website:

http://www.asmodee.com/jeux-de-societe/news/news.htm?HK=6419 83fad28ef609aa4236a86af51969&ID=590


looks a lot like M44 and makes me even more curious about the war council concept!! Smile
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 16 September 2006 00:56
Palpatine,
Actually 1/72 scale should be about right.
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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 16 September 2006 02:20
travica wrote on Fri, 15 September 2006 17:40

just saw an interesting picture of the supposed Battlelore-gameboard on the french Asmodee website:

http://www.asmodee.com/jeux-de-societe/news/news.htm?HK=6419 83fad28ef609aa4236a86af51969&ID=590


looks a lot like M44 and makes me even more curious about the war council concept!! Smile


Way to go travica !
War Council sheets,,hummm
Token Cups?? My eyes are to old....
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 16 September 2006 02:29
Your eyes look quite good. Laughing
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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 16 September 2006 05:18
How cool is this!?!?


http://www.nucleus.com/~richdesn/bl-setup-shoot-det_1.jpg
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 16 September 2006 08:45
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How cool is this!?!?



This pic dropped my expectations a lot. It looks just like memoir with fantasy figs. I was hoping that Richard would have come up with something to spice up the game a little bit. I guess I have to wait until I see the rules to decide whether I buy this or..
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sun, 17 September 2006 01:46
Umm, Henkka, you knew it would be using the same system, what did you expect? I love the system and think it will work very well with medieval combat. Commands and Colors: Ancients which probably uses similar mechanics is fantastic.
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sun, 17 September 2006 06:08
Kenntak wrote on Sat, 16 September 2006 18:46

Umm, Henkka, you knew it would be using the same system, what did you expect? I love the system and think it will work very well with medieval combat. Commands and Colors: Ancients which probably uses similar mechanics is fantastic.

My thoughts exactly. I always expected a 9 x 13 board.
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sun, 17 September 2006 06:43
Looks all as it should be.

There will be a lot more opinion than discussion in the Forum, for awhile anyway..
more sentences starting with _ 'i' think' , 'i' believe, 'i' can't, 'i' don't, 'i' won't,, ...

Then the Forum will be for the enthusiasts with _ how do 'i', if 'i', 'i' did, if 'i', etc's !
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sun, 17 September 2006 09:11
Kenntak wrote on Sun, 17 September 2006 02:46

Umm, Henkka, you knew it would be using the same system, what did you expect? I love the system and think it will work very well with medieval combat. Commands and Colors: Ancients which probably uses similar mechanics is fantastic.


I guess, I wasn't all that clear. But it seems you got my point enyway. I meant exactly that. This is his fourth game, I was hoping he'd come up something other than a pure clone. As much as I like the system, enough is enough. Also, if it's not better than Ancients, then I probably won't be buying it. And I'll be able to judge it after I see others comments (reviews) and inspect the rules myself.

I hope, I made my point clear this time. =)
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sun, 17 September 2006 16:44
I think the game looks good at first sight.

I wasn't expecting the board to look too different from Memoir44, one of the things I like about that game is that it looks pretty damn good once you've set it up.
Grass and woods will still have to be green
if you know what I mean.

I'm pretty sure there will be a number of things that distinguish Battlelore from Memoir.

It's always been clear that Battlelore would be using the same game system as Memoir44, there are plenty of different games out there if one is looking for something completely different.

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Re:Speculations ..... Sun, 17 September 2006 17:12
I just wonder - and I think thas's because i used to play tabletops - if one get's the feeling of of a huge batttle-field with looootsss of units to command. I'd be very disapointed, if the 'feeling' (whatever this means) playing BL would be the same than Mem 44 (a game I really appreciate).
But may be clos combat changes alreday everything??
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sun, 17 September 2006 21:49
CCA 'feels' very different to Memoir, and neither feel the same as Battle Cry. The beauty of this system is that it's giving us a common language. I still love to play Third Reich, Panzerblitz, DBA, and so on, but it's hard to find opponents, and games take a long time to learn and play. With this system we can play a fun but flavoursome game in any era with minimal setup time against a complete newbie almost anywhere, or find a challenging opponent without too much trouble.

I'm really looking forward to having that in a fantasy setting. I used to love AD&D (actually, I played T&T more often than D&D), and I love War of the Ring, but both take a long time to learn and play. Enter Battlelore...
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sun, 17 September 2006 22:03
Thanks for the reply, yangtze- I just know Mem44, the other two games are hardly available in Switzerland or at least at tremendous costs.

Well, I'm still looking forward to BL - and there's another question, that came to my mind - (it was mentioned in other posts):

Will there be a Point-System per Unit - that means ie, Both player get a certain number of points, with which they can buy units to reach their aim (conquer a certain hex, kill all enemies, defend a position, destroy a building and so on). This would change a lot to Mem 44 where the historical setting is very important (and also very well done)
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Mon, 18 September 2006 10:33
That's a good question... There's a fan created points system for M44 available via the M44 forum, but none that I know of yet for Commands and Colours. We know there will be scenarios with Battlelore, but I wonder if there's a background mythology it all fits with?

I liked the Tolkienesque D&D and T&T worlds which were substantial, but loose enough to accommodate any kind of kingdom or force makeup, and players could add to the universe and build the mythology. The Traveller universe was the best example - there's an online database somewhere where you can add worlds you've created.
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Mon, 18 September 2006 14:04
blackstarr wrote on Fri, 15 September 2006 23:18

How cool is this!?!?



That's very cool! It looks a lot better than what I was expecting.
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 23 September 2006 15:01
I didn't see this asked earlier so here goes (though I confess that I didn't do eny searches). Will there be flying units in BattleLore? A fantasy game without flyers is just not a fantasy game =)

What I had in mind is a unit that has movement of say 5-6 hexes and can pass over frendly and non-archer enemy units. Possibly limits oppoments battle back or makes them battle back with less dice. Or something along these lines..

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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 23 September 2006 15:24
That's a good question
Maybe they will be special creatures like the giant and the elemental
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 23 September 2006 21:02
Henkka wrote on Sat, 23 September 2006 08:01

I didn't see this asked earlier so here goes (though I confess that I didn't do eny searches). Will there be flying units in BattleLore? A fantasy game without flyers is just not a fantasy game =)

What I had in mind is a unit that has movement of say 5-6 hexes and can pass over frendly and non-archer enemy units. Possibly limits oppoments battle back or makes them battle back with less dice. Or something along these lines..

We haven't heard anything official to my knowledge. However, Memoir 44 is introducing planes in the next expansion so I assume they have the mechanism worked out.

We were told that the base game has just humans, goblins, and dwarves. The 3 special minis are the Hill Giant, Earth Elemental, and the Giant Spider. So I doubt we will see flyers in the base game. But maybe as a future expansion!
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 23 September 2006 21:43
Does anyone know if the members of your war council have a figure? and fight in the game, ala C&CA?
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 23 September 2006 22:30
No, the War Council is handled completely off-board and really has nothing in common with a concept such as the leaders of past games.
Details will follow in a future blog entry.
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Re:Speculations ..... Sat, 23 September 2006 23:16
Will the game have heroes, ala D&D running across the battlefield?
      
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Re:Speculations ..... Wed, 27 September 2006 19:30
Not right away (or maybe I should say not in the short run Laughing <pun intended>)
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Re:Speculations ..... Mon, 02 October 2006 13:53
25 millimetres = 1 inch

So we are looking at about 20mm scale, but given that 40K quotes 25mm as their scale and they are exagerated style miniatures they work out to about 30mm.


Hope this helps. Very Happy
      
    
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