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Major Duncan
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Battle for Abbeville Thu, 03 August 2017 14:04
Ouch, just finished my first solo game and the French won easily 10-4.They had the luck with both cards and dice, but I don't think it would have changed the outcome, only the magnitude.

If the French do what they didn't do historically, i.e a methodical coordinated attack with tanks, infantry and artillery, I don't see what the Germans can do. The French have plenty of units, and can pull back critically damaged ones, which the Germans can do nothing about apart from the odd recon strike.

Any ideas on German strategy?
      
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Re:Battle for Abbeville Thu, 03 August 2017 14:57
https://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/battles/?id=4643&am p;am p;returnto=view

It seems the battle reports bear out your experience. With 66 games reported the Allies win 71% of the time, the Axis 29%.

I see that the biggest problem for the Axis is the infantry are all spread out allowing for "defeat in detail". They definitely need to fall back, consolidate and hunker around their supporting artillery.

The problem with this strategy is that the Allies can advance unmolested, build a good card hand and move their armor and artillery in to peck away slowly until a general advance is called for.

The actual historical battle was a bit of a rout initially for the Allies until the Germans consolidated near the Somme. So the fact that this battle scenario plays out similarly is appropriate.

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Re:Battle for Abbeville Thu, 03 August 2017 15:20
Clexton27 wrote on Thu, 03 August 2017 13:57

I see that the biggest problem for the Axis is the infantry are all spread out allowing for "defeat in detail". They definitely need to fall back, consolidate and hunker around their supporting artillery.

The problem with this strategy is that the Allies can advance unmolested, build a good card hand and move their armor and artillery in to peck away slowly until a general advance is called for.


Were you watching me play? This is an exact description of what happened. Different luck may have made it closer.
      
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Re:Battle for Abbeville Thu, 03 August 2017 16:28
Clexton27 wrote on Thu, 03 August 2017 14:57

https://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/battles/?id=4643&am p;am p;am p;returnto=view

It seems the battle reports bear out your experience. With 66 games reported the Allies win 71% of the time, the Axis 29%.

I see that the biggest problem for the Axis is the infantry are all spread out allowing for "defeat in detail". They definitely need to fall back, consolidate and hunker around their supporting artillery.


Reading the reports of those games won by the Axis (and their description in either French or English) reveals that is exactly the strategy used by those who won as the axis: Fall back and build a compact force around your artilleries. Retreat damaged units further back. Save your air strikes for those damaged units retreated by the opponent.

Clexton27 wrote on Thu, 03 August 2017 14:57


The problem with this strategy is that the Allies can advance unmolested, build a good card hand and move their armor and artillery in to peck away slowly until a general advance is called for.


This strategy has weak points indeed, but it seems to be the best you got.
      
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Re:Battle for Abbeville Fri, 04 August 2017 16:41
Well, I had two more tries with the fall back and consolidate strategy. Game three was my most well performed withdrawal, and the Germans were well poised at 7-7, but the dice turned quite dramatically and they lost 10-7, but game two was a success! only just, as the Germans won 10-9. French had a three dice shot v's a 2 figure inf unit, but only scored one hit. Germans had a four dice shot at a similar French unit and nailed it Very Happy.
      
    
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