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  Timing and combinations of Scriptorium Card Play Sun, 16 October 2005 07:01
Well my family just played MotA for the first time today. A lot of fun. At the end, after a round of each of us asking about him, we all had come to the conclusion that Novice Nicholas was the culprit. My daughter who is aged six had to call everyone to mass. However, she had the "Manual of Inquisitors" (scriptorium card) that allows you to "...use it during your turn to make a revelation or anaccusation, from any location within the Abbey.", so I let her make it from the alter in the Ecclisia before mass. It seemed like the right thing to do in the situation in any case, and made for great story, but...

When in the turn sequence are these scriptorum cards to be used? It says in the rules "...use it at the appropriate time as indicated on the card."

Should she have been able to use it from the Ecclisia?

Also is there a limit to how many of these cards can be used in a turn?

I had a cool combination in my hand with the "Benedictine Rule" scriptorium card that allows you to "...receive the answer in secret by whispering to each other. If he asks you a question in return that exchange is also done in private." Combine this with "Aristotelian Logic" "...use it when in the Parlor. If the player you have asked to show you a card cannot... ask him for another, and so on until he shows..." I figured all of that could be done at a whisper and really throw everyone off.

So the question is if you can play more than one in a turn can they be "combined" in this way?

In the same way that "Shadows over Camelot" is kind like a simple RPG. This game seems like a simplified murder mystery dinner game. And these interactions seemed like interesting story twists and in the spirit of the game. It would seem intentional. It is these story twists that come out of the cards that make this so much deeper and more interesting than Clue (an old favorite elegant in it's simplicity).

Kudos to Bruno and Serge.

Another great game, thanks.

Hamilton
      
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Re:Timing and combinations of Scriptorium Card Play Sat, 24 December 2005 10:07
It seems the sticking point is the "use it during your turn" part of the card. Since calling mass is the first phase of her turn (it sounds from your description that she was the first player) she should be allowed to play the card.
      
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Re:Timing and combinations of Scriptorium Card Play Sun, 25 December 2005 11:31
Hamilton

When in the turn sequence are these scriptorum cards to be used? It says in the rules "...use it at the appropriate time as indicated on the card."

Should she have been able to use it from the Ecclisia?


Cards are used "at the appropriate time".
Making a revelation is done in phase 4 (Actions) of a player's turn after Movement
and a possible Encounter have taken place.

Hamilton

Also is there a limit to how many of these cards can be used in a turn?

No, no limit.

Hamilton

I had a cool combination in my hand with the "Benedictine Rule" scriptorium card that allows you to "...receive the answer in secret by whispering to each other. If he asks you a question in return that exchange is also done in private." Combine this with "Aristotelian Logic" "...use it when in the Parlor. If the player you have asked to show you a card cannot... ask him for another, and so on until he shows..." I figured all of that could be done at a whisper and really throw everyone off.

So the question is if you can play more than one in a turn can they be "combined" in this way?


You can play both cards, but their effects are resolved in different phases so you cannot combine them.

Benedictin Rule is played during phase 3:Encounter where you both may whisper instead of talking out loud. However you must both be in the same room.

Aristotelian Logic is played during phase 4: Actions where you may do whatever actions are connected to the room you are in.

In this case you must be in the Parlatorium which must have been cleared of Suspect cards. Now you may ask any player anywhere to show you a card. The Aristotelian Logic will allow you to keep asking for cards until you you see one, but you will have to ask publicly as the Benedictin Rule is no longer in effect, so asking a player who is in Parlatorium with you has no relevance.
      
    
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