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*player398360
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  This forum helped me make my decision to buy in. Sat, 01 December 2007 05:00
I am hoping to clear my large table off this weekend and set up the game for the first time... I've been reading everything, everywhere and really think I'm going to love it. My playing partners are my kid 9 year old daughter and friends who get to come out now and then when they are allowed.
My daughter seemed a little overwelmed by all the bits and I want to make sure I don't lose her interest any tips?
I think I'll set it all up first so we get gaming fast. She wants to play the spider and she also has her own female mage figure that she wants to play so I better learn the rules fast! lol

Thanks for any suggestions.
      
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Re:This forum helped me make my decision to buy in. Sat, 01 December 2007 06:24
The adventure booklet does a very good job of introducing the elements of the game bit by bit, so to speak, as one follows it adventure by adventure. The first few get the mechanics down, next couple introduce some of the different races (well, at this point, all of them Laughing ). Lore makes its appearance in #'s 5 and 6 in a limited way, the war council is developed over the remaining adventures.

Adventure #6, a complex web, features dwarves and the spider against goblins (amongst human troops on both sides) and favors the dwarves and spiders. Get to that adventure as soon as you can, it sounds like. While the lore masters do not make an appearance on the board, that one is a battle between two level one wizards, and your daughter could use her mage figure as the stand-in for the wizard.

Welcome aboard!

[Updated on: Sat, 01 December 2007 06:25]

      
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Re:This forum helped me make my decision to buy in. Sat, 01 December 2007 06:27
hazar and welcome Very Happy
      
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Re:This forum helped me make my decision to buy in. Sat, 01 December 2007 15:59
Thanks muchly for the advice, I love the idea of bringing her wizard into the game. She was an unplayed 25 year old D&D miniature from my roleplayer previuos life! hehe I presently have my 4 year old son and 9 year old daughter doing mock 20 sided dice battles to prep them for future gaming partners.
Going to have to buy some paints as she has the colours mapped out on her minature and as we all know clothes are very important to girls. (It might be wise if Dad lets that character survive eh?)

Have a great weekend, we are getting lots of snow at the moment so maybe I'll be trapped in the house and can breakout the game...wink
      
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Re:This forum helped me make my decision to buy in. Sun, 02 December 2007 19:38
Personally I like adventure #5 over #6 to ease into lore and all. Not saying 6 is bad, just that 5 is "lore lite" and thus you can do variety of different lore decks with that one before going onto #6.

As for snow, gee sounds like Southwest Colorado (I know you aren't there, based on your profile) of getting 3+ feet in the past 24 hours or so!

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Re:This forum helped me make my decision to buy in. Sun, 02 December 2007 19:58
Caboose wrote on Sun, 02 December 2007 11:38

Personally I like adventure #5 over #6 to ease into lore and all. Not saying 6 is bad, just that 5 is "lore lite" and thus you can do variety of different lore decks with that one before going onto #6.



You're not reading very closely - no spider in #5 Wink He's trying to win the heart and mind of a nine year-old here Very Happy Though the Spider is tricky to use effectively, and as Cab is hinting, there are nuances best learned through a couple few games before jumping in to more complicated adventures (though 5 and 6 both just use the Level 1 Wizards).
      
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Re:This forum helped me make my decision to buy in. Mon, 03 December 2007 21:19
toddrew wrote on Sun, 02 December 2007 11:58

Caboose wrote on Sun, 02 December 2007 11:38

Personally I like adventure #5 over #6 to ease into lore and all. Not saying 6 is bad, just that 5 is "lore lite" and thus you can do variety of different lore decks with that one before going onto #6.



You're not reading very closely - no spider in #5 Wink He's trying to win the heart and mind of a nine year-old here Very Happy Though the Spider is tricky to use effectively, and as Cab is hinting, there are nuances best learned through a couple few games before jumping in to more complicated adventures (though 5 and 6 both just use the Level 1 Wizards).



But I've done numerous demos, using #6 and #5 as starters and I can tell you that using #5 FIRST before doing #6 is less complicated than jumping into #6 firsthand. Sure #6 has a creature, but that is a lot to learn (creatures, lore, how to play, etc). Might as well keep it "simple" and remove the creature aspect. Yes creatures are "lovely" but they are limited (and I suspect DoW will probably keep it that way - i.e. I don't suspect there will be more than probably 10 at most).

And as the posts on the forum can attest, adding the creature aspect does take some getting use to. Plus there are added complications with trampling, etc. Again, not exactly a great item to go over when first teaching the game, since there are defnitely nuisances for each creature.

Thus #5 is my first choice over #6 any day of the week to show some of aspects of Battlelore without it being overpowering. If it seems that the people are not getting the magic aspect, I can always tone it down to no magic as well. The adventure does allow for that. Plus there are no goblins/dwarf to worry about either in #5, unlike #6. Again another item that might add confusion...simple is always the best way to teach.

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Re:This forum helped me make my decision to buy in. Thu, 06 December 2007 21:30
Yes, the Spider interest is going to be a complicating factor. When I taught Battlelore to my friends, I started with scenario #2 (more balanced than #1), then moved to #5 to include lore. That leaves non-humans, creatures, landmarks and multiple lore masters to future games.

However, a 9yo will not have much patience for playing through two "learner" games before getting her spider, so you may have to just add the spider to an earlier scenario. I would avoid #6 because the non-human units are just another layer of complexity that she doesn't need in her first few games.
      
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Re:This forum helped me make my decision to buy in. Fri, 07 December 2007 05:56
Thanks for the advice.
I'll give it a whirl and let you guys know how it goes.
      
    
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