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kookoobah
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CTA or scenarios? Mon, 04 August 2008 15:36
do people prefer playing cta more or scenarios?

i love the fact that there's a lot of decisions to be made when playing CTA, but the part of me that wants some form of background story to the senseless bloodbath likes playing scenarios too.

unfortunately, my regular playing partner, my brother, could care less, as he just wants brainless hack and slash. so we normally play CTA so that he can get his pick of units to smash my face in.

what about you guys?
      
FelixPhantasm
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Re:CTA or scenarios? Mon, 04 August 2008 16:22
kookoobah wrote on Mon, 04 August 2008 09:36

(snip)... so we normally play CTA so that he can get his pick of units to smash my face in.

Laughing Laughing

I like both. Recently I've been playing more scenarios solo - just to play them. With friends its almost always CtA for the same reasons you mention above. Plus, I like "the dance" of each CtA set-up step.
      
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Re:CTA or scenarios? Mon, 04 August 2008 16:47
For me, the main source of enjoyment I get out of BattleLore (or the other C&C games, or games in general, for that matter Laughing ) is being presented with a situation and making do with the resources at hand to try to shape a particular outcome. A bit abstract sounding that Smile but I mean to say that I like each equally.

CtA games involve a lot of variables currently, but under the current releases (and even more so if just using the base game and CtA) there are a few choices that are "better" than others and there is the temptation to power game some of the variety out of the mix. I like the idea of injecting randomness into the specialist cards for that very reason - but, not exclusively, I have fun trying to break the Mounted Knights/Illusionary Troops cycle Smile

I like playing pre-set scenarios for a variety of reasons as well: less set up time, getting to the action quicker Smile and adapting to the particular constraints/opportunities that are given with the adventure's initial configuration of forces and special rules, being the main two.

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Re:CTA or scenarios? Mon, 04 August 2008 19:58
Scenarios all the way.

The added setup time for CtA bugs me.

I strongly favor the set up scenario, play, swap sides, play again. Person with the most total flags wins.

You spread the setup time over two games, and you also balance out the effects of scenarios that favor one side.

It's also interesting to evolve the tactics based on round 1 in round 2.

Chuck

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Re:CTA or scenarios? Mon, 04 August 2008 20:45
toddrew wrote on Mon, 04 August 2008 10:47

I like the idea of injecting randomness into the specialist cards for that very reason - but, not exclusively, I have fun trying to break the Mounted Knights/Illusionary Troops cycle Smile

I've taken to this too - lately. All the specialists are interesting in their own way, at least thats the way my group feels.
      
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Re:CTA or scenarios? Tue, 05 August 2008 19:56
I think that both scenarios and Cta are fun to do. Depending on the scenario - namely moreso the user ones - there are some DoW that are fun as well.

In regards to this thread about Cta, are there some Cta cards that just seem better than others (or likewise some Cta cards that just are ugh) ?

Thanks
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Re:CTA or scenarios? Tue, 05 August 2008 22:37
I like scenarios because the setup time is shorter. I like CtA because you get to customize your army.
      
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Re:CTA or scenarios? Wed, 06 August 2008 01:01
tibbs2 wrote on Tue, 05 August 2008 22:37

I like scenarios because the setup time is shorter. I like CtA because you get to customize your army.

This statement often appears. I dont know what we are doing "wrong". In our group CtA is considered a quick and dirty way of getting a game started:
- You don't have to find a scenario first.
- You don't have to double check the map for terrain. You just place some terrain where you like.
- Just deal the troop cards and place them in their sections. Placing troops from the cards takes the same amount of time as placing troops from a scenario.

I really don't see where the added setup time appears.

But to answer the OP:
We play only in Epic mode. Either 2- or 4-player. None of us cares about scenarios. We just use CtA to get a game up and running fast.
Actually, if DoW were to release some kind of background "expansion", I doubt any of us would buy or read it.
      
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Re:CTA or scenarios? Wed, 06 August 2008 03:08
dbc- wrote on Wed, 06 August 2008 07:01

tibbs2 wrote on Tue, 05 August 2008 22:37

I like scenarios because the setup time is shorter. I like CtA because you get to customize your army.

This statement often appears. I dont know what we are doing "wrong". In our group CtA is considered a quick and dirty way of getting a game started:
- You don't have to find a scenario first.
- You don't have to double check the map for terrain. You just place some terrain where you like.
- Just deal the troop cards and place them in their sections. Placing troops from the cards takes the same amount of time as placing troops from a scenario.

I really don't see where the added setup time appears.

But to answer the OP:
We play only in Epic mode. Either 2- or 4-player. None of us cares about scenarios. We just use CtA to get a game up and running fast.
Actually, if DoW were to release some kind of background "expansion", I doubt any of us would buy or read it.



i think maybe the little decision making that there is to be had in CTA slows down the setup for some people. i know it does for us, but not so much that my brother wants to play scenarios more. he really likes turning those red men into red goblin mercenaries. very scary.

to be honest, i like playing non epic more (for 1v1, 2v2 or 3v3 should be played epic). for a lot of little things. too many units for my taste in epic, and there's a lot of action that i cant focus on.

you dont want a story? really? well, to each his own. i'd like an arthas or illidan or grom character in battlelore, will probably add a lot of flavor for me, to have a person who matters in the greater scheme of things battling it out with the troops and helping decide the fate of Uchronia (which incidentally, is more than just a gameworld name, it's actually a real word that means an alternate time history)

one last question though. my brother regularly deploys 3 red goblin foot units when we play CTA. he finds a way to deploy at least 1 red goblin foot unit, and 1 red human foot unit, and then turns that red human foot unit into 2 more red goblin foot units, and we use the blue and green goblin figures to back it up. is that legal? ^_^ im pretty sure it is, but it feels wrong to have red goblin units with green/blue goblin figures in them. yes, yes im nitpicking.
      
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Re:CTA or scenarios? Sat, 09 August 2008 22:20
My group prefers random generation & dealing with it Shocked
So CtA is our choice but the lack of a overhall story
is a game killer for us.

We just gave up on BattleLore until the promised
Game world comes out.I'm trying to revive some interest
by using BL as a battle resolver for the Board Game
Warriors of God (100 years War).The Board Games
provides the story/reason benind the battles &
battling with Thomas of Lancaster against Louis d'Anjou
over Gascony sure beats Standards vs Pennants
in our book.

OD
      
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Re:CTA or scenarios? Sat, 09 August 2008 22:30
kookoobah wrote on Tue, 05 August 2008 19:08

one last question though. my brother regularly deploys 3 red goblin foot units when we play CTA. he finds a way to deploy at least 1 red goblin foot unit, and 1 red human foot unit, and then turns that red human foot unit into 2 more red goblin foot units, and we use the blue and green goblin figures to back it up. is that legal? ^_^ im pretty sure it is, but it feels wrong to have red goblin units with green/blue goblin figures in them. yes, yes im nitpicking.


There may be an official ruling on this point, but when I play I don't let lack of figures interfere with the units on the board. I would do what you and your brother are doing. But, I don't subscribe to the levy tokens either Wink
      
    
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