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Set-up for Quick Tournament on 1-11-11	Tue, 11 January 2011 19:18

This is where the games and results will be found for Today's Quick Tournament on 1-11-11. I still hope for sign-ups to get us to 16. You have 30 minutes. Must be 1500+ [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Set-up for Quick Tournament on 1-11-11	Tue, 11 January 2011 19:41

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Re:Set-up for Quick Tournament on 1-11-11	Tue, 11 January 2011 19:50

First round: Player list and match-ups 1. L Lucullupus 2. B Stormwarrior 3. M Olle Boll 4. G onyx puffin 5. P Angel6 6. A The Tinman 7. K xbomanx 8. H 9. D 10. O 11. I Cat_ 12. E blubes 13. N Knockando 14. F dea1 15. C yaelka 16. J Tyrana A The Tinman plays B Stormwarrior C yaelka plays D Bye E blubes plays F dea1 G onyx puffin plays H Bye I Cat_ plays J Tyrana K xbomanx plays L Lucullupus M Olle Boll plays N Knockando O Bye plays P Angel6 [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Set-up for Quick Tournament on 1-11-11	Tue, 11 January 2011 19:53

Second Round matches Second round Winners bracket Winner of A-B Stormwarrior plays winner of C-D yaelka (loser goes to game T) Winner of E-F blubes plays winner of G-H onyx puffin (loser goes to game S) Winner of I-J Tyrana plays winner of K-L xbomanx (loser goes to game R) Winner of M-N Olle Boll plays winner of O-P Angel6 (loser goes to game Q) 1 Loss (Loser) bracket Second match Loser of A-B The Tinman plays Loser of C-D; (bye)winner plays in game Q Loser of E-F dea1 plays loser of G-H; (bye) winner plays in game R Loser of I-J Cat_ plays loser of K-L lucullups; winner plays in game S Loser of M-N knockando plays loser of O-P; (bye) winner plays in game T [Updated on: Tue, 11 January 2011 20:31] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Set-up for Quick Tournament on 1-11-11	Tue, 11 January 2011 19:54

Winner's bracket notes Round 3 Winner of A-B-C-D Stormwarrior plays winner of E-F-G-H onyx puffin (loser goes to game W) Winner of I-J- K-L xbomanx plays winner of M-N-O-P Olle Boll(loser goes to game X) Round 4 Winners of round 3 play each other. onyx puffin v. xbomanx(loser goes to game Z) (winner xbomanx waits for loser bracket) [Updated on: Tue, 11 January 2011 21:25] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Set-up for Quick Tournament on 1-11-11	Tue, 11 January 2011 19:56

One Loss Brackets Loser bracket Third match Game Q The Tinman winner of above plays second round loser M-N-O-P angel6 Game R dea1 winner of above plays second round loser I-J- K-L l Tyrana Game S winner lucullupus of above plays second round loser E-F-G-H blubes Game T knockando winner of above plays second round loser of A-B-C-D yaelka Loser bracket Fourth match Game U Winner Game Q angel6 plays Winner of game RTyrana Game V Winner Game S lucullupus plays Winner of game T yaelka Loser bracket Fifth match Game W: Winner Game U angel6 plays from loser from winners bracket game A-B-C-D E-F-G-H loser Stormwarrior Game X: Winner of game V yaelka plays from loser from winners bracket I-J-K-L-M-N-O_P loser Olle Boll Loser bracket Sixth match Game Y: Winner of Game W angel6 plays winner of game X yaelka Game Z: is between game Y winner angel6 and loser of winner bracket last round onyx puffin This then sets up winner of loser bracket who plays champ of winners bracket. (repeat if winner bracket person loses). [Updated on: Tue, 11 January 2011 21:44] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Set-up for Quick Tournament on 1-11-11	Tue, 11 January 2011 21:47

FINALS winner of loser bracket angel6 who plays champ of winners bracket. xbomanx (repeat if winner bracket person loses). Winner is xbomnax Congratulations Bulent! [Updated on: Tue, 11 January 2011 22:29] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Set-up for Quick Tournament on 1-11-11	Wed, 12 January 2011 00:26

Thanks for organization, Onyx. I'll try to do better the next time... [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Set-up for Quick Tournament on 1-11-11	Wed, 12 January 2011 10:07

Grats Bülent, very well played indeed IMHO, even in a double elimination QT there should be only one game between the winners bracket survivor and the losers bracket winner. If one loses in the first round of a 16 player double elimination tourney, and then makes it through the losers bracket AND wins one game against the winners bracket survivor, then he is 7:1 in his games, while the winners bracket survivor is only 4:1. IMHO, this 7:1 is enough to win the tourney and equally diffiucult to a 5:0 through the winners bracket. No need to force him to make it 8:1, while the other only needs 5:1 to win... [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Set-up for Quick Tournament on 1-11-11	Wed, 12 January 2011 12:52

GRATS, ALI, GREAT!!! maybe I had the best chance to eliminate you (at least from the winners bracket), but it was only a tie [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Set-up for Quick Tournament on 1-11-11	Wed, 26 January 2011 01:51

Grats Bülent! I second Angel: winner bracket is the shorter way, loser bracket the long way, thats what you pay for losing and getting a second chance. The final is the final. A "double elimination" in that one final makes absolutely no sense to me. There are many sports with double elimination setups. I have never heared of a loser bracket winner needing to win the final match twice. In my sport where I organize tournaments of all different kind of set ups, a double elimination of 16 players would look like this: R16 : 8 winners >>A & 8 losers >>B B : 4 losers >>out & 4 winners >>C A : 4 winners >> final 8 & 4 losers >>C C : 4 winners >> final 8 & 4 losers >>out Final8 is a normal single elim: (A1-C8,A4-C5,A3-C6,A2-C6) losers >>out [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Set-up for Quick Tournament on 1-11-11	Wed, 26 January 2011 06:12

Colo, I am trying to figure that out. Does winner bracket persons lose twice in that? It is to be double elimination! "Final 8 is a normal single elim: (A1-C8,A4-C5,A3-C6,A2-C6) losers >>out" As I see it, A1, A2, A3, & A4, only lose once if they lose at that point. Why is that loss worse than an early loss? @ Angel: Yes if you lose in first match you have go to 7:1, but the others do not have that necessarily. Example: if you lose last game in winner bracket, then you end up only what when playing winner: 4:1? So that record is the same as the winner bracket if he/she loses. To me, double elimination means someone has to lose twice (hence word double) to be out of that tournament. What I don't like about my set-up is that loser of winner bracket final, (before the big final) gets placed too high in loser bracket. But I do not know a way around that. Otherwise someone else gets a free pass in a round. [Updated on: Wed, 26 January 2011 06:22] [Report message to a moderator]

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