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lambolt
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Practical Matters: Storage and Organisation Mon, 24 November 2014 11:45
OK, I hate to be "that" guy (in general I think there's a lot of unnecessary blathering about unimportant stuff like sleeving cards, bagging components and oh my gosh, fitting things in the box), but with a system like this, especially when you have a lot of the extra stuff, in duplicate, then organising it becomes an issue, not that I'm worried about the sleeving and bagging stuff, but in terms of being able to pull out what you need easily, find what you need, pack it away so it can be found later.

Any tips or experience anyone wants to share would be great, right now I have a lot of stuff all packed into sections of an IKEA EXPEDIT haha. I'm aiming to paint the minis shortly but right now theyre sorted into biggish plano boxes, I have summary cards in a binder, those annoying elite badges in a coin collector sheet, and everything else stacked in those cupboards.


I'm curious about everything from the boring small detail (like, a good way to store those annoying Elite badges, there are SO MANY and double sided, not in a way that makes sense either, and some are used rarely, some more often. Has anyone made up a sticker sheet with all those badges so maybe you could print your own onto wooden discs and employ a more easy to decipher system) to the more general stuff like, has anyone tried reformatting the expansion rules into A4/Letter PDF so that you could print out and make some kind of binder with all the rules together in the same size.

How about managing the plethora of tiles (again double sided, in an annoying way) to be able to find the ones you need etc etc.

Also, has anyone not suggested people creating the scenarios in the editor to get a single page PDF that could also go into some kind of binder.

It feels like a binder with full page rules (all expansions etc also), summaries, FAQ etc would be great, and also a binder with single sheet high quality paper or card scenarios. That would have actually been good as a release for the anniversary

Can Days of Wonder be persuaded to to something about this, it feels like it would not be difficult for them to release PDF versions of all the updated rules, FAQs and summary cards to print at home to a binder, likewise scenarios* or even print it out to a binder with the Memoir 44 logo on it, surely thats something that a kickstarter campaign could easily gauge if worthwhile. I would have thought it's a big enough seller that there would be big interest in such stuff.


(as an aside to this topic, what would be your ideas for new material / systems that specifically addressed organization and storage of components and info, and access to data and details)
      
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Re:Practical Matters: Storage and Organisation Mon, 24 November 2014 15:40
It is not likely that DOW will ever take the time and expense to create any type of organizational storage tool for the Memoir '44 game system. I am certain that if they did, there would be a plethora of forum posters who would have thought that they should have done it differently or followed a different protocol. I am also quite certain that they did not formulate the double-faced tiles OR unit badges with the intent of being annoying.
The joy of it is that you have the opportunity to create your own organizational system and there are as many ways of organizing this as there are individual players.

If you take the time to use the SEARCH function on this forum, you will find that there are many ways to organize and folks have been kind enough to post their ideas.
One example for "organizing terrain tiles":
http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?goto=256368#msg_256368

I personally have my organized by expansion in Plano boxes and Akro-Mills storage boxes and I simply use the nice Illustrated Roll Call lists created by Jesse Rasmussen to find what I need based on what comes from each expansion:
http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/mypage/362174/m44/story#_inde x_7

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg214/ronh51/Games/2010-Dec-01_003.jpg

I have created my own TERRAIN TILES LIST which you can find in my user pages.
http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/mypage/320854/m44/story#_inde x_14

You can use this spreadsheet to find which expansion contains which specific terrain tiles. Since I already keep my tiles congregated by expansion it makes it easier for me to find them when I need them.

With all the multitude of parts involved in this system, there is never going to be a time when it isn't a little fiddly, but find or create a system you personally like and you can stop being "that" guy you hate.

[Updated on: Mon, 24 November 2014 18:05]

      
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Re:Practical Matters: Storage and Organisation Mon, 24 November 2014 16:15
I also recommend this thread:

http://www.daysofwonder.com/de/msg/?th=28399&start=0
      
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Re:Practical Matters: Storage and Organisation Mon, 24 November 2014 17:16
That picture is from one of my boxes, here is the other one:

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg214/ronh51/Games/M44003.jpg

I used Akro-Mils 5905 boxes that I bought on amazon.com for around $9.

      
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Re:Practical Matters: Storage and Organisation Mon, 24 November 2014 21:39
clexton27 wrote on Mon, 24 November 2014 15:40

It is not likely that DOW will ever take the time and expense to create any type of organizational storage tool for the Memoir '44 game system. I am certain that if they did, there would be a plethora of forum posters who would have thought that they should have done it differently or followed a different protocol.



If that were the only reasoning behind doing stuff like this, no games would ever do it, yet plenty of them have done it. I don't think anyone would complain about a ring binder with the M44 logo on it and rules and scenarios on ring binder sheets would they? I mean I will make this myself, but it would have been nice to see some offical products. Last time I checked companies are in business to make money so I would have thought if its not happened its more likely they feel like its not profitable rather than worry about fan reaction.

clexton27 wrote on Mon, 24 November 2014 15:40


I am also quite certain that they did not formulate the double-faced tiles OR unit badges with the intent of being annoying.



sure, and at no point did I say that they did

clexton27 wrote on Mon, 24 November 2014 15:40


The joy of it is that you have the opportunity to create your own organizational system and there are as many ways of organizing this as there are individual players.

sure, and thats why Im posting here. I wouldnt call it joy though, especially not reading your grumpy reply, thought we were mates, maybe I missed some point where I annoyed you?

clexton27 wrote on Mon, 24 November 2014 15:40


If you take the time to use the SEARCH function on this forum, you will find that there are many ways to organize and folks have been kind enough to post their ideas.
One example for "organizing terrain tiles":
http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?goto=256368#msg_256368



I've seen some ideas but that doesnt mean I cant ask for more, are all the suggestions updated daily, were they posted today, is it possible some people have refined or come up with new? Sheesh, whats up with you this morning, I only ever remember you being a very pleasant guy to chat to.

clexton27 wrote on Mon, 24 November 2014 15:40


I personally have my organized by expansion in Plano boxes and Akro-Mills storage boxes and I simply use the nice Illustrated Roll Call lists created by Jesse Rasmussen to find what I need based on what comes from each expansion:
http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/mypage/362174/m44/story#_inde x_7



Yeah, I have got some of that stuff too, but I'm still curious about other options, and sorry if it offends you that I ask on an internet forum instead of just doing a rigorous search of the many old threads on this that exist. I know internet game forums are serious business and we've no time for duplication with every post here being well thought out, edited and proofread.

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg214/ronh51/Games/2010-Dec-01_003.jpg

clexton27 wrote on Mon, 24 November 2014 15:40


I have created my own TERRAIN TILES LIST which you can find in my user pages.
http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/mypage/320854/m44/story#_inde x_14

You can use this spreadsheet to find which expansion contains which specific terrain tiles. Since I already keep my tiles congregated by expansion it makes it easier for me to find them when I need them.




yeah, I've been looking at that too. Since I have so many duplicates I can actually do away with the double sided stuff and just organise by type actually thats a lot easier than faffing about with index lists and stuff.

clexton27 wrote on Mon, 24 November 2014 15:40


With all the multitude of parts involved in this system, there is never going to be a time when it isn't a little fiddly, but find or create a system you personally like and you can stop being "that" guy you hate.


thanks. I'm really not taking it that seriously, though you seem to be. My mistake for coming here, no worries. Don't remember using the word hate* since I dont really count toys and games as being very high up on the things that are important list, but you know, OK, lesson learned, avoid this forum too. No problem. Hope whatever it is that turned you from a friendly, helpful and nice to chat to fellow that I seem to remember welcoming with open arms to my memoir 44 online league into a bitter sounding grump taking this a bit too seriously is soon resolved so you can get back to your chilled out ways.

peace out. Dood.

* apart from reflexively, i.e. against myself as in I personally hate to be someone who sounds like they're moaning about stuff thats trivial and not Worth worrying about

[Updated on: Tue, 02 December 2014 17:04]

      
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Re:Practical Matters: Storage and Organisation Tue, 25 November 2014 02:23
lambolt wrote on Mon, 24 November 2014 05:45

OK, I hate to be "that" guy (in general I think there's a lot of unnecessary blathering about unimportant stuff like sleeving cards, bagging components and oh my gosh, fitting things in the box), but with a system like this, especially when you have a lot of the extra stuff, in duplicate, then organising it becomes an issue, not that I'm worried about the sleeving and bagging stuff, but in terms of being able to pull out what you need easily, find what you need, pack it away so it can be found later.

Any tips or experience anyone wants to share would be great, right now I have a lot of stuff all packed into sections of an IKEA EXPEDIT haha. I'm aiming to paint the minis shortly but right now theyre sorted into biggish plano boxes, I have summary cards in a binder, those annoying elite badges in a coin collector sheet, and everything else stacked in those cupboards.


I'm curious about everything from the boring small detail (like, a good way to store those annoying Elite badges, there are SO MANY and double sided, not in a way that makes sense either, and some are used rarely, some more often. Has anyone made up a sticker sheet with all those badges so maybe you could print your own onto wooden discs and employ a more easy to decipher system) to the more general stuff like, has anyone tried reformatting the expansion rules into A4/Letter PDF so that you could print out and make some kind of binder with all the rules together in the same size.

How about managing the plethora of tiles (again double sided, in an annoying way) to be able to find the ones you need etc etc.

Also, has anyone not suggested people creating the scenarios in the editor to get a single page PDF that could also go into some kind of binder.

It feels like a binder with full page rules (all expansions etc also), summaries, FAQ etc would be great, and also a binder with single sheet high quality paper or card scenarios. That would have actually been good as a release for the anniversary

Can Days of Wonder be persuaded to to something about this, it feels like it would not be difficult for them to release PDF versions of all the updated rules, FAQs and summary cards to print at home to a binder, likewise scenarios* or even print it out to a binder with the Memoir 44 logo on it, surely thats something that a kickstarter campaign could easily gauge if worthwhile. I would have thought it's a big enough seller that there would be big interest in such stuff.


(as an aside to this topic, what would be your ideas for new material / systems that specifically addressed organization and storage of components and info, and access to data and details)



[Updated on: Wed, 26 November 2014 19:53]

      
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Re:Practical Matters: Storage and Organisation Tue, 25 November 2014 02:54
I think that I can assure you that DoW will not be spending time or money on any more 'organizational' products for their games. They will, instead, dedicate their resources to fun new expansions (hopefully) and great additions to the system.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but there are some other great things out there for organizing your Memoir stuff! Good luck finding something that works for you. My system is all contained in Plano boxes and it all fits in two carrying bags. Granted, we usually play here at my house so I don't have to move things too far, but I could if I needed to. Smile

[Updated on: Tue, 25 November 2014 03:48]

      
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Re:Practical Matters: Storage and Organisation Wed, 26 November 2014 16:38
http://boardgamegeek.com/image/1549290/memoir-44

http://boardgamegeek.com/image/1549291/memoir-44

Never used the Elite badges, I use 1/72 plastic soldiers instead.

      
    
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