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Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Sun, 10 July 2016 22:36
The title says it all. Smile

But it looks nicer in a picture:

http://m44brigade.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/M44-DO17Titel.jpg

And we are going to do this: These boots are made for. . . Smile

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So reserve this weekend for fun and games! Cool

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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Thu, 14 July 2016 10:55
I'm in!
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Thu, 21 July 2016 09:25
Me too!
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Thu, 17 November 2016 07:17
This gentleman explains it better than I can:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6MeabgsNAY

Battle for Italy in 2017

Register here: click

We ar looking forward to it! Smile

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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Sun, 08 January 2017 23:17
Count me in!
Scenarios are almost finished and and we are looking forward to seeing you in action.
I cannot wait for you to take a crack at the amazing and historically correct battles we have lined up for you!

See you all in April!
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Mon, 09 January 2017 19:07
http://i60.tinypic.com/ilev7s.jpg

I know to which tournament he is going Laughing
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Mon, 23 January 2017 21:24
Preparations for the Dutch Open are in full Swing.
Here is a photograph:

http://m44brigade.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/M44DO17Teaser11.jpg

Some people have already registered for this tournament:

DDB73
Vercingetorix1302
GoekaWar
Screaming Eagle
Soldaat van Oranje
bartjuh
Crusader
Vandamme37
souris blanche
Caty
ErikUitdebroeck
Eszie
TheGameFreak.nl
Franok
Kelian 05
Rockerviking
JP Von Këvy
Lucky91
Misterfunny
Bettyboop
Conti
Donut
Robert 53
Foxhole
Siebeltje
Blind Reality
Luitenant Gruber
Glubokaya Rana

And you? Smile

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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Mon, 27 February 2017 19:24
The Dutch Open is visiting the land of Mario and Luigi. Beside shooting at pizza's we expect a lot of climbing on hills and mountains.

Something for the participants to think about:
https://s16.postimg.org/61pmgyd1h/DO_Question.png/
Questions:
1) How much dice can the allied infantry unit use when attacking the German (or Italian Cool) unit?
2) How did the units get on the mountain and how can they get off?
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Tue, 28 February 2017 07:28
Cpl_Uhl wrote on Mon, 27 February 2017 19:24

The Dutch Open is visiting the land of Mario and Luigi. Beside shooting at pizza's we expect a lot of climbing on hills and mountains.

Something for the participants to think about:
https://s16.postimg.org/61pmgyd1h/DO_Question.png/
Questions:
1) How much dice can the allied infantry unit use when attacking the German (or Italian Cool) unit?
2) How did the units get on the mountain and how can they get off?



I would say they would roll two dice. They are at the same elevation, so the deduction of dice d oesn't happen.

I guess the only way they coyld have gotten onto these mountain hexes, since there are no adjacent hill or mountain hexes, would be either a special rule or they set up there.

The way i see it, there's no way to get off them. Even if flags are rolled they would count as hits.
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Tue, 28 February 2017 12:17
boersma8 wrote on Tue, 28 February 2017 07:28

Cpl_Uhl wrote on Mon, 27 February 2017 19:24

The Dutch Open is visiting the land of Mario and Luigi. Beside shooting at pizza's we expect a lot of climbing on hills and mountains.

Something for the participants to think about:
https://s16.postimg.org/61pmgyd1h/DO_Question.png/
Questions:
1) How much dice can the allied infantry unit use when attacking the German (or Italian Cool) unit?
2) How did the units get on the mountain and how can they get off?



I would say they would roll two dice. They are at the same elevation, so the deduction of dice d oesn't happen.

I guess the only way they coyld have gotten onto these mountain hexes, since there are no adjacent hill or mountain hexes, would be either a special rule or they set up there.

The way i see it, there's no way to get off them. Even if flags are rolled they would count as hits.



If he gets killed he gets off the Mountain sort off Rolling Eyes
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Tue, 28 February 2017 23:09
On 2nd thoughts, I guess they would only roll one die. The -2 die deduction does go into effect as the mountains are NOT part of the same range, correct??
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Tue, 28 February 2017 23:56
Well let's see if other people agree. For the moment most answers are correct in a way, I guess Laughing

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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Wed, 01 March 2017 04:17
The Plateau Effect doesn't apply when firing to an unconnected mountain hex. 2 minus 2. No dice.

-2d "only applies to units battling from below or not on same range."

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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Thu, 02 March 2017 00:39
No dice battle 2-2

My theory

To get off would require the other unit to be ordered with a card that boast firepower and roll a flag against the unit forcing it to retreat
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Thu, 02 March 2017 11:26
dagorman wrote on Thu, 02 March 2017 00:39

No dice battle 2-2

My theory

To get off would require the other unit to be ordered with a card that boast firepower and roll a flag against the unit forcing it to retreat


They could never get off the mountain, as there's no adjacent mountain nor hill hex, meaning a flag would result in a hit/ casualty.
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Thu, 02 March 2017 11:28
dagorman wrote on Thu, 02 March 2017 00:39

No dice battle 2-2

My theory

To get off would require the other unit to be ordered with a card that boast firepower and roll a flag against the unit forcing it to retreat


About the 2-2, hills specifically say die reduction tkaes place only when battling from below. Don't know about mountains. assuming this also applies to mountains, they wouold still get to roll the regular two dice as they are both on the same elevation...
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Thu, 02 March 2017 16:46
boersma8 wrote on Thu, 02 March 2017 10:28

dagorman wrote on Thu, 02 March 2017 00:39

No dice battle 2-2

My theory

To get off would require the other unit to be ordered with a card that boast firepower and roll a flag against the unit forcing it to retreat


About the 2-2, hills specifically say die reduction tkaes place only when battling from below. Don't know about mountains. assuming this also applies to mountains, they wouold still get to roll the regular two dice as they are both on the same elevation...


For mountains the -2 is if not on the same range. Checked the card is limits retreat to adjacent hills/mountains.
Only other way down I can think of would be BEL ignoring terrain movement restrictions

      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Tue, 07 March 2017 00:24
1) How much dice can the allied infantry unit use when attacking the German (or Italian ) unit?

2 dice for the distance -2 for the mountain (as these are not connected - no mountain range). So in general 0 dice. Unless you get +1 die (like The Finest Hour, Firefight, Behind Enemy Lines).

2) How did the units get on the mountain and how can they get off?

How did they get on it.... that is a good question. They were placed there at scenario set up. The paradrop is also an option - SPOILER we won't use the paradrop during the Dutch Open.

How do they get off. They can't. The card clearly states that you may only move or retreat to a mountain or hill.
Behind enemy lines let you ignore terrain movement restrictions, but doesn't allow you to make an illegal move.
When you say in a body bag I would give you points on a creative answer Laughing



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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Wed, 08 March 2017 11:38
I think a clarification would be useful; when are they "on the same range"? I suspect the connecting hexes must be mountains. Although you could argue that hills kind of connect mountains, too.
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Wed, 08 March 2017 14:19
Zalamence wrote on Wed, 08 March 2017 11:38

I think a clarification would be useful; when are they "on the same range"? I suspect the connecting hexes must be mountains. Although you could argue that hills kind of connect mountains, too.


A good observation.

The rules for the Terrain pack and Pacific state:
"When battling an enemy unit at the same height as your unit, there is no Battle dice reduction unless the target unit is on a different Mountain range (i.e. Mountain hexes are not connected)."

Mountain hexes need to be connected, by Mountain Hexes is infered in my opinion.

      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Wed, 08 March 2017 16:39
This will be difficult. But let google translate support me.
Mountain range = Bergketen (in Dutch).

Free translation: a "chain" of mountains Laughing
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Thu, 09 March 2017 15:45
Cpl_Uhl wrote on Wed, 08 March 2017 16:39

This will be difficult. But let google translate support me.
Mountain range = Bergketen (in Dutch).

Free translation: a "chain" of mountains Laughing


According to string theory, all mountains are connected through the 5th dimension.
Or did I get that wrong?
Razz
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Mon, 20 March 2017 09:32
If you want to participate hurry! You can still register until Sunday the 26th of March.

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The contenders so far:

DDB73
Vercingetorix1302
GoekaWar
Screaming Eagle
Soldaat van Oranje
bartjuh
Crusader
Vandamme37
souris blanche
ErikUitdebroeck
Franok
Kelian 05
Rockerviking
JP Von Këvy
Lucky91
Misterfunny
Bettyboop
Conti
Donut
Foxhole
Blind Reality
Luitenant Gruber
Glubokaya Rana
bino_zoet
Flemish_Havy
Ramzaz
Frankzaun
Dubun
JkW
Haspara
Calgada
kdfservices
Robert-G
Basjemac
Frostberg
Yeira
Big Taz
Bazooka66
Bladeath
Cmdt. MarcelEM
Rastabak

Still awaiting payement:
Caty
Robert 53
Siebeltje
El Bjorno
Erwin


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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Mon, 20 March 2017 13:07
Cpl_Uhl wrote on Mon, 27 February 2017 13:24

The Dutch Open is visiting the land of Mario and Luigi. Beside shooting at pizza's we expect a lot of climbing on hills and mountains.

Something for the participants to think about:
https://s16.postimg.org/61pmgyd1h/DO_Question.png/
Questions:
1) How much dice can the allied infantry unit use when attacking the German (or Italian Cool) unit?
2) How did the units get on the mountain and how can they get off?



1) Since the units are not on connecting mountains they have only one way to fire at each other directly. They must be ordered on a card that would give an extra dice (as per normal situation 3 dice will not overcome the terrain restriction of -2, or the distance restriction -1 / total -3). So cards such as TFH, BEL, FIREFIGHT. They could also receive indirect fire from BARRAGE and AIR POWER. This would be a slow sniping event. However, if they both infantry were actually snipers they would have a possibility of taking each other out faster as Snipers having clear line of site are not effected by the terrain the enemy unit is occupying. They could fire 1d on every order and 2d with the special cards mentioned above.

2) They must have arrived on the mountain by parachute drop at the beginning of the game or as a special reinforcement. Some reinforcement rules allow you to place the reinforcement on an open hex adjacent to a friendly unit. So had there been a friendly unit adjacent to the mountain, then placing a unit on a mountain would have become a possibility. Neither unit could MOVE onto the MOUNTAIN hex directly as he would need an adjacent HILL hex.
Regarding movement, neither unit may move off the hex they are on (even a BEL will not permit impassable movement). However, should a unit be reduced to one figure, they may be RESCUED by a Storch landing on an adjacent hex.


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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Mon, 20 March 2017 13:09
Thank you for that answer, I think you covered all the rules there.

So now you know the rules, you need to come over and play! Very Happy
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Mon, 20 March 2017 13:19
Jeronimon wrote on Mon, 20 March 2017 08:09

Thank you for that answer, I think you covered all the rules there.

So now you know the rules, you need to come over and play! Very Happy

I would love to come over and play. But I live near the mountains and would need a Paradrop. I am afraid I do not have the cash to pay for the Paradrop right now, but I very much appreciate the invite. I hope all participants have a great time. I know you guys will run a fun tournament. Smile
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Mon, 20 March 2017 14:39
Clexton,
I'm sure the scenarios will find their way to Vassal soon after the tournament. You can still enjoy them there at some point.


Edit: Jeroen. Nice picture. I remember you taking it.

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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Tue, 21 March 2017 18:56
Clexton27 wrote on Mon, 20 March 2017 13:19

Jeronimon wrote on Mon, 20 March 2017 08:09

Thank you for that answer, I think you covered all the rules there.

So now you know the rules, you need to come over and play! Very Happy

I would love to come over and play. But I live near the mountains and would need a Paradrop. I am afraid I do not have the cash to pay for the Paradrop right now, but I very much appreciate the invite. I hope all participants have a great time. I know you guys will run a fun tournament. Smile



I send you a parachute.
Mind the gap though.
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Wed, 22 March 2017 09:41
The scenarioos will be available through the DoW site shortly after the tournament.

However if you do not visit the Dutch Open you will miss out on all the extras Smile
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Tue, 28 March 2017 17:18
Hi Jeronimon,

Is still possible to come to the Dutch Open ? I can probably come - i will know today night - but it depends on whether the enlistment of players is closed or not...

best regards,

Darth Ben
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Tue, 28 March 2017 19:28
@Darth Ben, PM sent/MP envoyé
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Sun, 09 April 2017 23:07
The Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017 finished about 5,5 hours ago. so it's time for the scores. Cool

First I would like to thank all players who came to the Open for their presence. Without you we could not do what we do. We had a fun, strategic and at sometimes frustrating weekend. Perfectly memoir in my book. Very Happy

Thanks everybody!

2015: three french players took the podium followed by
2016: two Belgium players and one German player but in
2017: two Dutch players and one German filled the podium.

So with great national pride I will present the final scores to you. Razz

Congratz to:
Dubun, JKW and Frostberg!

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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Mon, 10 April 2017 17:46
Congrats to the winner(s) and the organisation.
j.
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Mon, 10 April 2017 23:17
It was a very nice weekend in Klundert, excellent organized,
with very good scenarios, very good players and a lot of fun.
Thank you very much from Germany to our Dutch, Belgian and French friends.
@Jeronimon: we returned save and without any problems.
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Tue, 11 April 2017 07:08
That is good to hear/read Bazoka66, the "safe and without any problems" part but especially the "lot of fun" part. Cool
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Wed, 12 April 2017 12:58
And we made "some" pictures: M44Brigade.nl/fotos

Enjoy! Smile
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Thu, 13 April 2017 07:24
Great photos! I'm impressed with how well organized the tournament looks.

Someday, I must talk my wife into letting me go to one of the European tournaments to meet so many of my friends over there.
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Thu, 13 April 2017 16:04
Thanks to the M44 Brigade for organizing a great tournament again.

It was a wonderfull weekend with a lot of fun, very interessting maps and a very nice community. Like every year. I am counting the days until DO18!
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Thu, 13 April 2017 22:38
Hi Bastian,

Really delighted to hear. Perhaps even better news, you (probably) don't have to wait for a full year Shocked

Greetz,
Uhl
      
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Re: Memoir'44 Dutch Open 2017: 8th 9th april (Klundert) Fri, 14 April 2017 12:47
sam1812 wrote on Thu, 13 April 2017 07:24

Great photos! I'm impressed with how well organized the tournament looks.

Someday, I must talk my wife into letting me go to one of the European tournaments to meet so many of my friends over there.


Organisationally: we do our best to give the players a very enjoyable experience.
We achieve this by preparation, improvisation and enthousiasm. All three of them in abundance! Smile

Europe is not all about M44, so maybe bring the the wife over as well and see the sights! Very Happy
      
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