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onyx puffin LOL
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Nations Cup 2018 Wed, 01 August 2018 18:38
Well, it is August 1st, a time when the thoughts of dedicated, Top players of Ticket To Ride turn toward the Nation's Cup Tournament. (At least mine does)

So let us get the Nation's Cup Tournament ball rolling.

(I remember a time 3 years ago when java problems began, and a wise person said: "TTR will become like a family reunion. People will show up once a year for the big event." Well, it is that time to prepare. And of course the big event is the Nation's Cup.)

So, who will coordinate?
I believe we should look for plans of a 6 week total time of the tournament beginning October 1st, and concluding by the middle of November.


This gives people 2 months to develop a Nation's Cup team.

Let us know on this thread if you will be seeking to be on a Nation's Cup team, or especially if you are coordinating one.(you may need to add an email to help connect with people)
      
onyx puffin LOL
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Wed, 01 August 2018 18:40
onyx puffin is "in" and hopes to coordinate one of the USA teams.

e-mail is onyxdale88@yahoo.com
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Sat, 04 August 2018 09:20
Well,

NC could be a reason to try to get java running again. I would participate and organize a German team, not knowing, if its possible.

Carsten
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Mon, 06 August 2018 12:51
I can help with something. But only with steam oriented NC. I can’t enter Java.
I discuss with Lexx and we probably will have a team.
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Wed, 08 August 2018 13:29
Checking with Italian people...

      
allan bam
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Wed, 08 August 2018 21:44
I am checking with some CIA agents. I am in for sure.
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Thu, 09 August 2018 12:33
One ITA team quite sure

SuperPello STEAM preferred
Dandee JAVA preferred
Qorlas STEAM/JAVA is the same
Spugna STEAM/JAVA is the same
LOCA Platform to be checked
Tempest0 JAVA preferred

      
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Thu, 09 August 2018 16:12
Good news,

sure, we will have a German team. 4 players are for sure. But I'm working.

Carsten
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Thu, 09 August 2018 23:32
We just need to move forward and play the new tournament on the new platform completely. The steam/java rule is confusing and doesnt work properly, does lead to not random pairings and always uncomfortable for one or another player otherwise.
Concluding: I'm in for a new platform NC, out for java/mix.

[Updated on: Thu, 09 August 2018 23:36]

      
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Fri, 10 August 2018 11:50
I have to agree stason. If we want to create a new community and not try to just survive for some months we need the swap to steam, although I prefered java as platform. I tried it the last weeks, it's different, I lost 100 points Shocked , but I think it's necessary...
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Fri, 10 August 2018 16:48
From my observations, by the way the main difference between steam and java is that nobody does care about points here on steam. Cool
      
VojFromMars
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Sat, 11 August 2018 00:20
Can manage a French team if Zil doesn't want to...

Seems there is enough interest to have one.
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Sat, 11 August 2018 01:53
Flop Kasi écrit le Fri, 10 August 2018 05:50

I have to agree stason. If we want to create a new community and not try to just survive for some months we need the swap to steam, although I prefered java as platform. I tried it the last weeks, it's different, I lost 100 points Shocked , but I think it's necessary...

Not related with platform.
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Sat, 11 August 2018 09:43
Stason schrieb am Fri, 10 August 2018 16:48

From my observations, by the way the main difference between steam and java is that nobody does care about points here on steam. Cool


Well, I don't think it depends on the interest of the players on both platforms. It's the entrance, in Java u were welcomed by the first 3 of the ranking, in steam I even don't know yet, where to find the ranking Smile. And ranking is less interesting with those "leaders" at the moment...
      
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Sat, 11 August 2018 13:16
Not caring about points is a step towards the right direction; community playing is mostly a matter of attitude while playing.

In steam the major issue is winning with time. I have lost quite a few games where I was winning due to time restrictions. But it's like blitz chess. If people enjoy playing fast than OK.
Then, seeing what others had played; if there is no time constraint then one can click and see; it's not easy, but it's the same for all and closer to reality (one can't see past moves in board game!).
Mostly all constraints and issues are the same for both opponents. I personally found java more difficult to use and mad more mistakes there.

Going back to "attitude of playing" in java lately peolpe where playing multi in a very friendly manner; I have been ignored by at least 3 players because I dared to block. So why should I care about re-joining Java? In last tournament I ranked higher than players that are in top 20 currently... And I enjoyed much more losing by 0,5 point by Truckertreller than games I currently okay in steam (or losing 4-2 in USA 2er by a gentleman like Kasi or analyzing the last moves with Voj)

So the real issue is if there are still players willing to play in this aggressive tournament fashion that makes the game competitive. Even more if there are people willing to organize; I could help in calling good players from steam to join a tournament (nation's cup is not a good one to start calling new players).
There are many good players playing multi USA in steam... the first year in java was difficult too. And really filling wikipedia was such a hassle!! Why didn'e anyone care about these difficulties back then?
Even cheating was extensive in the first years! In steam it's easier to check on cheating. There is a nice option where only friends can observe!

      
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Sat, 11 August 2018 14:38
Flop Kasi wrote on Sat, 11 August 2018 10:43

Stason schrieb am Fri, 10 August 2018 16:48

From my observations, by the way the main difference between steam and java is that nobody does care about points here on steam. Cool


Well, I don't think it depends on the interest of the players on both platforms. It's the entrance, in Java u were welcomed by the first 3 of the ranking, in steam I even don't know yet, where to find the ranking Smile. And ranking is less interesting with those "leaders" at the moment...


Well, can not agree more with you, while I was meaning something different. I mean in general same players here on steam have lesser ranking because people play many different new maps, which are less-skill-more-luck-dependant;against very low-score opponents most time. When players like Hecki or Womble and many other are often 1500+ score here It's much easier to go down score-wise very quickly against them then playing vs 16-17+ score guys on java. Games are in general also faster, due to the fast timer, mistakes are more common. Few times when I starting playing on steam after java- always gone down in score like you say.

To finish with this offtop(which I obviously did start, sorry;) and not to start another"which platform is better discussion":

at this stage I think we have to make a principal agreement(or not make) to play the 2018 NC on the new platform only.
From my understanding there are only few multi players(not 2ers) which have some kind of issues with this and can't migrate.

There is a lot of time before the start for everyone who is interested to train, to get used to steam. From what I know most guys who play here for several months, can barely look at the java screen nowadays. Many have security-related issues on their PCs and can't even join on java at all.

If we'll have an agreement there will be some more stuff and rules to discuss and maybe even add something to the spectators and the show(I've got an Idea already).

[Updated on: Sat, 11 August 2018 15:21]

      
onyx puffin LOL
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Re:Nations Cup 2018 Sun, 12 August 2018 21:40
Platforms aside, I am assuming more games will be played on STEAM for this Nation's Cup.

Which means it will be more difficult to watch matches, unless someone in a side Thread tells us how to do certain techniques in Steam that comes so easily in java. Three examples come to mind:

A. How do I find the games to watch?

B. Remind me again of the technique to use to see what colors and lokos the opponent has just played on the grey?

C. How do I find if a friend is on Steam playing in a match? (thus I can wait out the game or watch them) Is there some master list of people playing?

I will start a thread for help in making Steam "competitive-style" friendly.

https://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?goto=368481#msg_368481
      
    
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