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Angel 6
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  NC - Statistics of the Round Robin Mon, 21 November 2005 15:09
Here I will post some statistics which I find interesting.
Of course, I will not ONLY post statistics where Angel6 looks good. Very Happy
      
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  Team Ranking by won games Mon, 21 November 2005 15:20

Teams ranked by game won-Percentage (no forfeits counted):

RANK  TEAM               PLAYED GAMES     WON GAMES    WIN %
 1.   Nightmare Express       198            113       57.1%
 2.   Austria                 195            108       55.4%
 3.   Red TGV                 200            110       55.0%
      World United            200            110       55.0%
 5.   Team THINK              200            106       53.0%
 6.   Team Orange             200            102       51.0%
 7.   Homeland Security       195             99       50.8%
 8.   German Chicken          200            101       50.5%
 9.   Belgium                 195             95       48.7%
10.   White TGV               200             97       48.5%
11.   Days of Wonder          193             43       22.3%


Hmm, German Chicken was either very lucky to finish in the Semis, or they have the strength to win close matches, or they only have 3 good players to get the points and a 4th to lose high?!

Anyway, I feel sorry for Nightmare Express. 113 wins should have been enough for the Semis.

[Updated on: Mon, 21 November 2005 15:21]

      
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Re:Team Ranking by won games Mon, 21 November 2005 15:49
Angel6 schrieb am Mon, 21 November 2005 15:20



Hmm, German Chicken was either very lucky to finish in the Semis, or they have the strength to win close matches, or they only have 3 good players to get the points and a 4th to lose high?!



Its much more simple. They are the only unbeaten team, so they collected enough points, and because the points count more then wins, they are in Smile.

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Re:Team Ranking by won games Mon, 21 November 2005 15:55
May someone else post some statistics too ?

The largest victories : Nightmare against DoW and Orange againt DoW : 2/4/19

The smallest victory : World United against Belgium : 2/3/9 (and consequently 11 games won for Belgium... for nothing)

The "largest" ties : Team THINK against Red TGV and Nightmare Express against team THINK : 1/2/13.

Unbeaten Players : Angel6 and kotay

Players without victory : Pierre (10 matches Embarassed), Goan (5 matches), Bindy, Flemish Flower, simorgh (2 matches), Manu71, msande75, Osamu, Hugo22 (1 match)

Players... who did not play : JensK, Livermore, Burgos, Toadspawn, Angel9, Katzenfrau.
      
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  Player Ranking by Won Games Mon, 21 November 2005 16:00
Players ranked by game-won percantage and played games:
(no forfeits counted)
                       PLAYED                        MATCH
RANK  PLAYER           GAMES    WON GAMES  WIN %   WINS/LOSSES
 1.   Angel6             50         40     80.0%     10/-
 2.   Torsten            20         15     75.0%      3/1
 3.   kotay              35         26     74.3%      7/-
      toutoune           35         26     74.3%      6/1
 4.   Optimus            35         25     71.4%      6/1
 5.   Ikarus1304         45         32     71.1%      6/3
      Nachtigall         45         32     71.1%      8/1
 6.   bassie             50         33     66.6%      7/3
 7.   Hawaienne          40         26     65.0%      6/2
 8.   Whitetrain         50         31     62.0%      6/4
 9.   gwen               45         27     60.0%      9/3
10.   ElSoyokaze         40         24     60.0%      5/3
      léachris           40         24     60.0%      4/4
      TransEuExpress     40         24     60.0%      5/3
      youki              40         24     60.0%      6/2
11.   losgehts           35         31     60.0%      5/2
12.   pepetever          15          9     60.0%      2/1
13.   SKMorefield        45         26     57.8%      6/3
14.   ggfabi             30         17     56.7%      4/2
      sebbo              30         17     56.7%      3/3
15.   womble             50         28     56.0%      6/4
16.   thekid             40         22     55.0%      4/4
17.   ramtrak            20         11     55.0%      3/1
18.   thadd              35         19     54.3%      4/3
19.   erps               30         16     53.3%      3/3
      redPEPPER          30         16     53.3%      3/3
20.   Donisl             25         13     52.0%      2/3
      Jac                25         13     52.0%      3/2
21.   Silvertrain        35         18     51.4%      3/4
22.   Anu                45         23     51.1%      4/5
23.   Lexikon            20         10     50.0%      2/2


Wow, Torsten, Nachtigall and youki were THE positive surprises of the Round Robin (for me). King Is Torsten really a guest??? Confused

Hmm, Ikarus1304 and Nachtigall - same percentage but 3 match losses for Ikarus and only 1 loss for Nachtigall.

Whitetrain - 62% but 4 match losses *grrr*. No wonder Nightmare had problems. Wink

Anu & thekid - not a good performance for a 1800. Very Happy

Maybe, if Torsten and pepetever had played more games... Question

Interesting, captains tend to play much and win much! Why is this?

Beside the DoW team, there are just 2 players that played 40+ games really badly - I won't name them but they have a few things in common. Proud

[Updated on: Mon, 21 November 2005 17:44]

      
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Re:Team Ranking by won games Mon, 21 November 2005 16:11
Hi Angel,

how nice:

Angel6 schrieb am Mon, 21 November 2005 15:20


Hmm, German Chicken was either very lucky to finish in the Semis, or they have the strength to win close matches, or they only have 3 good players to get the points and a 4th to lose high?!



The Chicken say: Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


P.S. Thx to sebbo Cool

[Updated on: Mon, 21 November 2005 16:14]

      
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Re:Player Ranking by Won Games Mon, 21 November 2005 16:17
Angel6 écrit le Mon, 21 November 2005 16:00


Wow, Torsten and Nachtigall were THE positive surprises of the Round Robin (for me).


Torsten is not a surprise at all. He won the "Open" tournament a few months ago. Seems that he is a great competitor !
      
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Re:Player Ranking by Won Games Mon, 21 November 2005 16:38
Grüß Gott, Angel,

Und schon naht die Weihnachtszeit aber Angel, du gütiger Mann du, du bist nicht der Nikolaus, drum steig doch einfach mal von deinem hohen Ross herab, bevor du runterfällst und dir der goldene Zacken aus der Krone bricht. Very Happy

Achso und bevor ich es vergesse, Angel, du Superpurschi, darf ich dir ins Gedächtnis rufen, wie es zwischen euch und uns ausgegangen ist? Twisted Evil Very Happy Twisted Evil

Angel, du begnadeter Mann du, was hast du da nur für ne Gurkentruppe aufgestellt? Shocked Eine Schmach, gegen uns nicht zu gewinnen. Sag Angel, wirst du das je in deinem Leben verwinden können oder lässt du das Märchen -Rumpelstilzchen- neu aufleben? Laughing

Übrigens, den Schuh, den du mit deinem Posting aufgestellt hast, passt mir nicht, er ist mir doch etwas zu klein aber, passt dir der, den ich dir hingestellt habe? Very Happy Rolling Eyes

Grüßle
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Re:Player Ranking by Won Games Mon, 21 November 2005 17:19

The Dragon Slayers:
(who won against most of the 12 Dragons, Dragons ranked back)

For me, Dragons of the NC are a combination of high ELO over a long period of time and successful playing in tornaments (in alphabetic order): Angel6, Anu, bassie, ElSoyokaze, ikarus1304, kotay, Optimus, thekid, Torsten, toutoune, Whitetrain, womble.
[of course this list is very subjective and from my personal point of view; about 8 are clear for me, others could be replaced by other possible Dragons]
PLAYER           WINS vs DRAGONS
Silvertrain      4:1 vs toutoune, 3:2 vs ikarus1304.

sauvignon57      3:2 vs Anu, 3:2 vs WhiteTrain.
youki            3:2 vs Anu, 3:2 vs WhiteTrain.

kotay            3:2 vs ElSoyokaze, 3:2 vs womble.
thekid           3:2 vs Torsten, 3:2 vs WhiteTrain.

ggfabi           4:1 vs womble.
Torsten          4:1 vs WhiteTrain.

WhiteTrain       4:1 vs Anu.

Elric            3:2 vs ikarus1304.
erps             3:2 vs Anu.
Hawaienne        3:2 vs ElSoyokaze.
Hermelin         3:2 vs womble.
Kimber           3:2 vs womble.
léachris         3:2 vs Anu.
Markus_SB        3:2 vs thekid.
Nachtigall       3:2 vs Optimus.
Nayeli           3:2 vs ElSoyokaze.
Razamanaz        3:2 vs bassie.
redPEPPER        3:2 vs bassie.
TransEuExpress   3:2 vs thekid.
xavtrax          3:2 vs thekid.

Angel6           3:2 vs ikarus1304.
Anu              3:2 vs thekid.
toutoune         3:2 vs bassie.

Well, not so many surprises.
youki started the tournament below 1600 and is now a top player - no doubt.
sauvignon57 started at 1511 and possibly developed more than anybody else - in my opionion.
Silvertrain seems to have a unique technique - excellent vs top players, not so good otherwise. But against top players you can't really win by luck!

[Updated on: Mon, 21 November 2005 17:37]

      
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Re:Player Ranking by Won Games Mon, 21 November 2005 17:35
Nayeli schrieb am Mon, 21 November 2005 16:38

Grüß Gott, Angel, Very Happy Twisted Evil Very Happy Twisted Evil Laughing Very Happy Rolling Eyes Grüßle
Nayeli

Ja danke, ebenfalls. Laughing

LG, Michael

PS: wir haben euch doch geschlagen, oder? 12:8 wenn mich nicht alles täuscht. Very Happy
      
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Re:Player Ranking by Won Games Mon, 21 November 2005 18:27
Servus Angel,

12:8 - richtig!!!

Ich finde das Ergebnis für euch auch erschreckend aber nimms nicht so tragisch, arbeitet halt noch etwas an euch Very Happy

Gruß
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Re:Player Ranking by Won Games Mon, 21 November 2005 18:43
Angel6 schrieb am Mon, 21 November 2005 17:19

...
But against top players you can't really win by luck!


Erps told you that, right? Wink
      
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Re:Player Ranking by Won Games Mon, 21 November 2005 19:20
I don't have a guest account. My account run out of time und now it is renewed. Thanks for the nice statistics.
      
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Re:NC - Statistics of the Round Robin Mon, 21 November 2005 20:22
I'm a dragon?! Angel, I'm flattered...

It's remarkable, though, how large the list of 'dragon' defeats there are, especially considering how the title is earned...

Of course, I believe that most of the top players are on pretty much the same level of skill, so I'm not all that surprised, after all.

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Re:NC - Statistics of the Round Robin Mon, 21 November 2005 22:17
Well, I decided to do a bit of record-keeping myself, after noticing that my team had been losing many matches by one game (that is, the 2/3 loss). I started after round 6, and, sure enough, we managed to grasp defeat from the hands of victory more than any other team. Also interesting about our team was that only one of us ever lost 1/4.

Grats to Nightmare Express for seven 5-0 wins and to DoW for getting as many as we did!

I also have all the individual players' stats if anyone wants them, but I didn't want to clutter this post too much.

EDIT: I ph4il at copy/paste. Red TGV and WU's stats are now in there and correct.


	        0/5      1/4       2/3      3/2      4/1      5/0      Wins    Losses   Matches     W/L%
Belgium							
TOTAL RESULTS	1	8	13	9	6	2	17	22	39	43.6
										
Homeland Security						
TOTAL RESULTS	2	1	17	10	9	0	19	20	39	48.7
										
Team Orange							
TOTAL RESULTS	1	9	10	11	5	4	20	20	40	50.0
										
German Chicken Train										
TOTAL RESULTS	3	6	8	16	3	4	23	17	40	57.5
										
White TGV										
TOTAL RESULTS	5	4	12	7	8	4	19	21	40	47.5
										
Nightmare Express										
TOTAL RESULTS	0	5	12	10	6	7	23	17	40	57.5
										
Team THINK										
TOTAL RESULTS	1	4	15	11	6	3	20	20	40	50.0
										
Team DoW										
TOTAL RESULTS	13	17	6	2	2	0	4	36	40	10.0
										
World United										
TOTAL RESULTS	2	3	11	14	8	2	24	16	40	60.0
										
Red TGV
TOTAL RESULTS	5	4	5	12	10	4	26	14	40	65.0

Austria										
TOTAL RESULTS	0	8	7	12	10	3	25	15	40	62.5

--ElSoy

[Updated on: Mon, 21 November 2005 22:35]

      
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Re:NC - Statistics of the Round Robin Mon, 21 November 2005 22:33
You forgot Red TGV Team, ElSoyo !

EDIT : Thanks ! Wink

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Re:NC - Statistics of the Round Robin Mon, 21 November 2005 22:37
Actually, I had Red TGV's stats under WU's title and no WU stats, but everything's fixed, now.

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Re:Player Ranking by Won Games Tue, 22 November 2005 01:46
Hi, nice stats

Angel6 schrieb am Mon, 21 November 2005 16:00



Beside the DoW team, there are just 2 players that played 40+ games really badly - I won't name them but they have a few things in common. Proud


Hm, now we want the names and the things in common Smile Please!

I think, this statistic is only a guideline... It's not really possible to compare the players because of the difference in the ranking of their opponent. I think, you have to multiply the own ranking divided by the average opponent ranking with the win percentage. Oh and don't forget the sunspot activity
Laughing

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Re:Player Ranking by Won Games Wed, 30 November 2005 11:09
Angel6 wrote on Mon, 21 November 2005 17:19


The Dragon Slayers:
(who won against most of the 12 Dragons, Dragons ranked back)

For me, Dragons of the NC are a combination of high ELO over a long period of time and successful playing in tornaments (in alphabetic order): Angel6, Anu, bassie, ElSoyokaze, ikarus1304, kotay, Optimus, thekid, Torsten, toutoune, Whitetrain, womble.
[of course this list is very subjective and from my personal point of view; about 8 are clear for me, others could be replaced by other possible Dragons]


Interesting analysis. I tried to make this somewhat more objective by using 4 "Dragon" criteria for the round robin of NC:

- Wins at least two-thirds of played matches;
- Plays at least 5 matches (50%)
- Wins at least 60% of played games;
- Is a top-50 player (today ranking).

Ten players meet all criteria: Angel6, bassie, Hawaienne, ikarus1304, kotay, Nachtigall, ramtrak, toutoune, and youki.

Six players meet three criteria: ElSoyokaze, gwen, losgehts, SKMorefield, Torsten, and WhiteTrain.

According to these criteria, four players are "Dragon Slayers":

PLAYER           WINS vs DRAGONS
Silvertrain      4-1 against toutoune, 3-2 against ikarus1304.
Angel6           3-2 against youki and ikarus1304.
kotay            3-2 against ElSoyokaze and youki.
thekid           3-2 against Torsten and WhiteTrain.

At the same time, this shows the splendid performance of youki (who only lost against Angel6 and kotay, players beaten by no one) and ikarus1304 (who only lost against Angel6, Silvertrain, and Elric).
      
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Re:Player Ranking by Won Games Wed, 30 November 2005 11:46
bassie schrieb am Wed, 30 November 2005 11:09

... 4 "Dragon" criteria for the round robin of NC:

- Wins at least two-thirds of played matches;
- Plays at least 5 matches (50%)
- Wins at least 60% of played games;
- Is a top-50 player (today ranking).

...


You forgot the 5th criteria:
- has a Nick that don't start with an "O"

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Re:Player Ranking by Won Games Wed, 30 November 2005 15:29
Optimus wrote on Wed, 30 November 2005 11:46

You forgot the 5th criteria:
- has a Nick that don't start with an "O"

Wink

Hm. This time you're right. Must have slipped through... Just look at my filtered Excel sheet and it's correct (you are in it). Your name should make it all so easy... Laughing Laughing

      
    
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