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RBorg
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Creatures Levels Fri, 22 December 2006 21:04
Your Giant Spider from the core game and the two promotional creature figures, the Hill Giant and Earth Elemental are all considered 1 level creatures. To deploy a creature in battle will count as 1 level token for its camp on the War Council.

For your enjoyment, you may deploy anyone of these when an Adventure calls for the deployment of a creature.

Enjoy
Richard Borg
      
Ladislaus
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  Re:Creatures Levels Fri, 22 December 2006 22:56
Thank you, Richard, for making this clear to the community!

For quite a while now, a portion of the community assumed that green creatures (i.e., giant spider) were equivalent to level 1 Lore Masters on the War Council, while blue creatures (e.g., hill giant, earth elemental) were the equivalent of level 2 Lore Masters.

Q: Can we assume that--unless a creature is noted otherwise--creatures are the equivalent of level 1 Lore Masters on the War Council?

I ask this, because neither the giant spider, the hill giant, nor the earth elemental makes any mention of what "level" they are. Moving forward there may be other creatures released that don't include such information either. My guess (and of course, I may be incorrect here) is that any future level 2 (or 3) equivalent creatures will be obviously noted as being such.

Thanks again.
      
jayr13
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Re:Creatures Levels Sun, 24 December 2006 03:45
This is a surprise. There was a qoute from Yann from the DOW staff that said 1 level Spider and 2 for Hill Giant. That seemed straight forward to me that the green is 1 token, the blue 2 tokens, and red 3 tokens. Since it is now confirmed as one token for these creatures I wonder if creatures in the future will cost more tokens?
      
Gilberreke
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Re:Creatures Levels Sun, 24 December 2006 04:13
So, what's the "advantage" of picking the spider then? Confused

On a side note, I can't wait to paint my creatures
      
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Re:Creatures Levels Sun, 24 December 2006 04:14
Gilberreke wrote on Sat, 23 December 2006 20:13

So, what's the "advantage" of picking the spider then? Confused

On a side note, I can't wait to paint my creatures


My guess would be its individual abilities are balanced with its battle dice to make a creature of roughly equal value as the others. Just my guess. Very Happy

[Updated on: Sun, 24 December 2006 04:15]

      
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Re:Creatures Levels Sun, 24 December 2006 04:36
I find the spider to be quite useful. It is very fast (and doesn't use up lore just to move), just as tough as the other creatures, and the web can be used in a two unit combo (have the spider attack then have another strong unit finish off the hopefully webbed unit) to do a lot of damage to units all over the place.
      
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Re:Creatures Levels Sun, 24 December 2006 15:24
Warpstorm wrote on Sun, 24 December 2006 04:36

I find the spider to be quite useful. It is very fast (and doesn't use up lore just to move), just as tough as the other creatures, and the web can be used in a two unit combo (have the spider attack then have another strong unit finish off the hopefully webbed unit) to do a lot of damage to units all over the place.


I would stilll prefer the Hill Giant.

However this announcement flattens the way for really hard creatures like dragons.
      
izernechel1
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Re:Creatures Levels Sun, 24 December 2006 16:27
tech7 wrote on Sun, 24 December 2006 07:24

Warpstorm wrote on Sun, 24 December 2006 04:36

I find the spider to be quite useful. It is very fast (and doesn't use up lore just to move), just as tough as the other creatures, and the web can be used in a two unit combo (have the spider attack then have another strong unit finish off the hopefully webbed unit) to do a lot of damage to units all over the place.


I would stilll prefer the Hill Giant.

However this announcement flattens the way for really hard creatures like dragons.


Not necessarily. After all, the game is currently scenario based. If such a mighty creature would exist, it could be balanced by siding it with a weaker army, worse terrain available, a larger opponents army etc.

It will be interesting to see the game evolve, that is for sure!
      
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Re:Creatures Levels Sun, 24 December 2006 18:03
Meepo wrote on Sun, 24 December 2006 16:27

tech7 wrote on Sun, 24 December 2006 07:24

Warpstorm wrote on Sun, 24 December 2006 04:36

I find the spider to be quite useful. It is very fast (and doesn't use up lore just to move), just as tough as the other creatures, and the web can be used in a two unit combo (have the spider attack then have another strong unit finish off the hopefully webbed unit) to do a lot of damage to units all over the place.


I would stilll prefer the Hill Giant.

However this announcement flattens the way for really hard creatures like dragons.


Not necessarily. After all, the game is currently scenario based. If such a mighty creature would exist, it could be balanced by siding it with a weaker army, worse terrain available, a larger opponents army etc.

It will be interesting to see the game evolve, that is for sure!


You got a point, but it would be easier for scenario designers, if the strength of an creature could be determined by his war council level, and you could use it in any battle which uses a war council,
on the other hand,
I wouldn't mind some REALLY MIGHTY creatures, which can only used in a spiecial campaign. As long as the mayority of the creatures is at a reasonable power level.

[Updated on: Sun, 24 December 2006 18:06]

      
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Re:Creatures Levels Mon, 08 January 2007 16:51
But... the Earth Elemental can be summoned. If I replace a spider with an earth elemental, do I put the elemental down, or the summoning hex?
      
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Re:Creatures Levels Mon, 08 January 2007 17:35
Wouldn't it be rather easy to simply say all creatures cost one council level, and the exception(s) would be really powerful creatures, in which case the specific creature card for that creature would specify the extra cost above the standard 1. So, your dragon would cost the one standard point, but then the dragon's card would require an extra token, or 2 be placed in the creature spot on the council sheet at the game's beginning.
      
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Re:Creatures Levels Mon, 08 January 2007 20:41
RBorg wrote on Fri, 22 December 2006 15:04

Your Giant Spider from the core game and the two promotional creature figures, the Hill Giant and Earth Elemental are all considered 1 level creatures. To deploy a creature in battle will count as 1 level token for its camp on the War Council.


Do you have to take 3 levels of creature on the council to get to put the lair on the battlefield?
      
    
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