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Morrighain
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Terrain pack question Wed, 04 March 2009 11:10
I'm rather new to Memoir, and I will be receiving the base game soon. I am looking at expansions already, and I noticed there's a Terrain Pack and it says that it only comes with 4 scenarios? So all that stuff is only used in 4 scenarios?
      
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Re:Terrain pack question Wed, 04 March 2009 11:54
Au contraire!

Actually all that stuff is used in literally hundreds of scenarios. Just check out the Official Scenarios:
http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/content/scenarioapp/

and Scenarios from the Front:
http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/content/scenariofans /

It is just that the manual that accompanies the Terrain Pack box only contains 4 scenarios. You have through the kindness of DOW and the myriad friends in the Memoir 44 community more scenarios then you will probably ever get around to playing.
What you are probably trying to decide is if it is worth getting the Terrain pack. I would personally say yes as it not only enhances gameplay but also the visual appeal of the game. However, if you are short on euros you may want to choose another expansion first. And I know that there are many discussion threads on the forum about which is best so I will let you search to find as many opinions on that as there are players.

Here is one example:
http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?goto=131650#msg_131650

I hope this has been helpful!
      
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Re:Terrain pack question Wed, 04 March 2009 12:51
Thanks a lot and thanks for the links. I didn't see all those scenarios.
      
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Re:Terrain pack question Wed, 04 March 2009 22:28
Contents of the terrain pack:
http://static.memoir44.com/lang/english/images/mm_boxcontent _terrain_en.pdf

If you like your maps to be aesthetically pleasing as well as tactically interesting (as I think they should be), the terrain pack is well worth buying.

The rivers, roads and extra villages are what I use most, but some of the other things add interest too.
      
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Re:Terrain pack question Thu, 05 March 2009 00:54
In addition, the airpack adds a lot of the terrain pack items to already made scenarios, but you'd have to buy it to see them!
      
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Re:Terrain pack question Thu, 05 March 2009 05:56
I'd say that's not quite the case -- the terrain in the Air Pack is significantly different from the TP.

AirPack terrain:

-22 winter hills, 10 desert hills
-8 trenches
-6 Russian villages
-2 winter airfields, 2 campaign airfields
-6 straight, 4 curves gullies

Additionally
-bomb craters, exit markers, ready to take-off markers, bunkers, aircraft carrier, destroyed bridge, landing craft.

The TP is definitely more interesting and varied as far as terrain is concerned, but the terrain in the airpack is definitely also worth it, especially if you like to fight large (Overlord) battles on the Eastern Front (and already have two winter boards).
      
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Re:Terrain pack question Thu, 05 March 2009 06:45
Kirby, the key is that the Air Pack revises all the previous official scenarios, and many of them use Terrain Pack items -- roads added, towns turned into churches, hills turned into mountains, etc.
      
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Re:Terrain pack question Thu, 05 March 2009 07:54
Ah, okay, sorry -- I misunderstood what you were saying. My fault.
      
Morrighain
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Re:Terrain pack question Thu, 05 March 2009 11:13
Now I'm confused. There are so many expansions that I can't buy them all, and I have no idea with which one to start now Confused
      
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Re:Terrain pack question Thu, 05 March 2009 11:59
Buy the campaign book. Play the campaign that doesn`t require expansions. It will give you the original scenarios, and you get to play a campaign.
You can also find official scenarios and fan made that doesn`t require expansions.
If you want more, buy eastern front, terrain pack, winter board (For visual effect on winter battles) to play the rest of the scenarios/campaigns in the campaign book.

Then buy the airpack and replay the campaign book with airrules and play the scenarios in the airpack.

Gives you lots of gaming hours and different scenarios.

Otherwise the Mediterranian theater is independant of the other expansions(except winter/desert board for visual effect.)
Gives you eight scenarios where five is linked with the simple campaign rules found in winter/desert board expansion or downloadable.
      
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Re:Terrain pack question Fri, 06 March 2009 19:56
Morrighain wrote on Thu, 05 March 2009 10:13

Now I'm confused. There are so many expansions that I can't buy them all, and I have no idea with which one to start now Confused


Go for the Pacific expansion: fast, furious and fantastic fun! Very Happy


      
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Re:Terrain pack question Fri, 06 March 2009 20:33
Dear Morrighain,
You will no doubt hear countless reasons why to choose one expansion over another, and mostly from guys. Unfortunately for you there are not many women involved with Memoir 44 unless their husband involved them and I doubt many of them use the forum so that they could give you the feminine perspective. So it is predominantly testosterone crazed opinions you will get on this issue.
All that aside. Many folks choose an expansion that will enhance the theater of operations they are most interested in. Eastern for Russia, Mediterranean for the Desert war or Pacific for the conflicts with the Japanese. This may be an avenue for you to pursue.
If you are just looking for greater play value in what you have already purchased, you might want to check out all the official scenarios that already exist and don't require the purchase of any additional materials. You may find them at:

http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/content/scenarioapp/

You can actually print these additional scenarios and have them as future reference.

More then anything, the game has little value if you can't have fun with it. Take some time to read the forums but also pursue finding someone else who might share your enjoyment of the game. This way, you could possibly share the expense of future expansions with someone you play with right at home.

[Mis à jour le: Fri, 06 March 2009 20:35]

      
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Re:Terrain pack question Fri, 06 March 2009 22:25
stevens wrote on Fri, 06 March 2009 20:33

Dear Morrighain,
You will no doubt hear countless reasons why to choose one expansion over another, and mostly from guys. Unfortunately for you there are not many women involved with Memoir 44 unless their husband involved them and I doubt many of them use the forum so that they could give you the feminine perspective. So it is predominantly testosterone crazed opinions you will get on this issue.



Haha! Oh well, I don't need a feminine perspective. Any perspective would be nice Smile Except maybe an answer to the question: 'How do you get your husband to play Memoir?' Very Happy

stevens wrote on Fri, 06 March 2009 20:33


All that aside. Many folks choose an expansion that will enhance the theater of operations they are most interested in. Eastern for Russia, Mediterranean for the Desert war or Pacific for the conflicts with the Japanese. This may be an avenue for you to pursue.
If you are just looking for greater play value in what you have already purchased, you might want to check out all the official scenarios that already exist and don't require the purchase of any additional materials. You may find them at:

http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/content/scenarioapp/

You can actually print these additional scenarios and have them as future reference.

More then anything, the game has little value if you can't have fun with it. Take some time to read the forums but also pursue finding someone else who might share your enjoyment of the game. This way, you could possibly share the expense of future expansions with someone you play with right at home.


Thanks for the great advice. I already looked at all the downloadable scenarios. As far as 'extra scenarios' is concerned, there isn't that much of a difference. So I think you're right. I should just start with the expansion that sounds/looks most like my taste (which probably will be Eastern Front). I was just worried, with the different advice I got, that I really needed to buy the expansions in a certain order to enjoy them.

And indeed, it depends a lot on whom I play with. I'm really hoping my boyfriend can be persuaded to play the game at all, when it arrives (still waiting for it). I did play the game a few times at a gaming club, so I know how the game plays. I am hoping my boyfriend will enjoy it too.
      
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Re:Terrain pack question Sat, 07 March 2009 00:15
If your boyfriend doesn't enjoy it and you consider getting a boyfriend who does, I don't think it will be too hard to find a willing parter on the forum.

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