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Baron Von Schmidt
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add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Wed, 13 May 2009 03:01
if you think the +Dennis+ account should be permanently retired.


As many of you might know the +Dennis+ account was muted for a full day a week back or so ago. Not content to accept DoW judgment and actually be silenced, Dennis just made a guest account named Rattlor and used that account to speak in the lobby.

I was just in the GoF lobby and whom did I happen to see again? Our ol buddy Rattlor hanging out in the lobby. This was of course while +Dennis+ is playing a game of GoF that he CREATED titled "for first place".

I have often seen +Dennis+ playing in a game of GoF or TTR while another instance of +Dennis+ is also in the lobby. Yes it's possible to be both places at once; the easiest way to do this is to quite simply use two browsers. i.e. Internet Explorer and Mozilla Firefox. I have mentioned to Dennis several times that him being in the lobby and also playing in a game makes me and some other players uncomfortable. His response is always that he is unable to view his own games that he is in. (This of course isn't the main reason why I am uncomfortable with it...)

With Rattlor of course it's a different story. I can only assume +Dennis+ has been muted again and that is why Rattlor was in the GoF lobby. I would think however that a player who has been known to have cheated in the past would want to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. And SURELY if you are going to use on i.d. to play and another KNOWN i.d. of yours to be in the lobby that you would CERTIANLY make any and all of the games you created CLOSED. Is this what happened? ummmmmmm no.

+Dennis+ created an open game. Rattlor was in the lobby. As soon as I came into the GoF lobby and said Hi to Rattlor he quickly disappeared.

Draw you own conclusions. I for one have had enough. I was bothered before that Dennis feels the need to be both in the lobby and playing, I was really bothered that he created yet another guest account to try and "get around" DoW muting of Dennis, and I'm most of all bothered by the simple fact that even when Dennis is clearly told by DoW staff that he is wrong to enter others games when he is not wanted he states that he will still do so and will play on after they leave because the "reason they give him of not wanting to play with him" is "not sufficient."



Baron

edit 8:02 p.m. 5-12-09 HST
To be fair, I did discover that Dennis was the highest rated player in that particular game and so any observers would see him. I'm still uncomfortable with the situation because he won't always be the highest rated player. In Queens Necklace it doesn't seem to be the highest rated player that is observed by the way.

If anyone else feels the need for the +Dennis+ account to be permanently retired PLEASE post here and say so. If all the people I have heard complain about him aren't willing to speak up in the forum then you will get what you deserve for saying nothing.

Edited on 4-15-09 to be more fair to DoW and their efforts

[Mis à jour le: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:05]

      
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Re:add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Wed, 13 May 2009 10:15
Baron - meanwhile I think all that helps is ignoring him. I tried several times, but after my last encounter with Dennis I put him on my list and thats it - permanently banning the dennis account is something I would immidiately support, but I am afraid he will be back with another account .... I do not know how "banning" can be done technically but I guess it is not as easy for DoW as it might appear.
      
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Re:add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Wed, 13 May 2009 16:33
Well Baron, DOW is not able to show next to +Dennis+ name that he is totally muted. So he just uses Rattlor to inform people that he cannot answer to their "hi" or "gg" etc. What You say to this fact?
      
Baron Von Schmidt
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Re:add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Wed, 13 May 2009 21:18
your "FACT" as you put it Mudda, isn't a fact at all. So that is one thing I say to it.

Rattlor says much more than "I can't speak I am muted as +Dennis+" or "hi" and "gg".

You have been mostly absent for much of the last 4 or so months Mudda. I love you as a friend man, but sometimes you write posts without really knowing a lot of the situation.

Believe me, anyone here knows I have been the biggest defender of Dennis for the last YEAR. I think the fact that I did that, and now think it's time for the +Dennis+ account to be closed permanently, is important I think.

Let him play as Rattlor if he wants, I don't mind if he is muted or not just as long as he behaves himself. No telling others how to play, what their big mistakes are, no slow play, no entering games he isn't wanted in unless he is given a "valid reason" (in his mind) etc.

No telling others that they "owe" him a rematch, no whining about people not saying grats to him but they say it to others, no talk about how others are against him and combined to "destroy him". None of that. It's what I have been striving for by working with him the whole time. I finally just got it through my head that I can't help him with that.

You know the reason a lot of people don't just put him on ignore?

Because then when he talks about them in games or in the lobby, they are the only ones who don't see what he is saying. Therefore if he says anything negative about them to others they don't have the ability to present the actual truth. I know that I certainly wouldn't want that to happen to me if I was in that postion, so therefore wouldn't be able to just put him on ignore.

If the ignore function was modified so that there was also the option to not have players enter your games but you could STILL hear what they say then I am sure LOTS of people would use it.

One problem with GoF is that it starts automatically if the person who is jumping in the game gets the multi colored 1 and plays it as quick as they can. As soon as the 4th person enters the table, the game begins. This means there is NO chance to kick someone out like you can in TTR. A start button in GoF would be a nice addition.

Anyway, I can understand if Rattlor was just used to tell people he plays with that information. Rattlor can easily do a one time pm to all those Dennis regularly plays with if that is all it was, right?

Baron

*edited 5-14 to clear up some of my quickly written english and therefore make the post more understandable.*

Edited again on 5-15 because I wasn't using clear english in one particular sentance still. sorry.

[Mis à jour le: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:07]

      
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Re:add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Wed, 13 May 2009 22:33
Quote:

Believe me, anyone here knows I have been the biggest defender of Dennis for the last YEAR.


Are you sure of that baron??
      
Baron Von Schmidt
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Re:add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Wed, 13 May 2009 22:41
Yes I am.
      
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Re:add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Wed, 13 May 2009 23:03
The Blue Baron schrieb am Wed, 13 May 2009 21:18


One problem with GoF is that it starts automatically if the person who is jumping in the game gets the multi colored 1 and plays it as quick as they can. As soon as the 4th person enters the game starts. So there is NO chance to kick someone out like you can in TTR. A start button in GoF would be a nice addition.

Baron


YES, that would be GREAT!
      
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Re:add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Wed, 13 May 2009 23:38
baron for some reason i think there is someone else
      
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Re:add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Wed, 13 May 2009 23:53
You must mean ............. Dennis Shocked Shocked

      
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Re:add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Thu, 14 May 2009 00:55
Baron

as far as I know Dennis doesn't join games(gof) where he isn't wanted -e.g.-nayelis games-

also I have played several games with him in gof and he is very respectful to the other gof players, and many of the seem to enjoy chatting with him.

ace

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Re:add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Thu, 14 May 2009 02:48
I am so thankful for the new feature "ignore". My life is much more quiet. Rolling Eyes

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Re:add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Thu, 14 May 2009 05:11
Wow..the amount of time that some of you put into these posts amazes me!
      
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Re:add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Thu, 14 May 2009 10:09
The Blue Baron wrote on Wed, 13 May 2009 12:18

...
Let him play as Rattlor if he wants, I don't mind if he is muted or not just as long as he behaves himself. No telling others how to play, what their big mistakes are, no slow play, no entering games he isn't wanted in unless he is given a "valid reason" (in his mind) etc...

If the ignore function was modified so that there was also the option to not have players enter your games and you can also kick them out of GoF BEFORE IT STARTS no matter what but you could still hear what they say then I am sure LOTS of people would use it.

One problem with GoF is that it starts automatically if the person who is jumping in the game gets the multi colored 1 and plays it as quick as they can. As soon as the 4th person enters the game starts. So there is NO chance to kick someone out like you can in TTR. A start button in GoF would be a nice addition...

Baron


It is unfortunate that your labored efforts have been futile from your view, Baron. I'm sure there are many who appreciate your patience in attempting the feat.

I have also been "gone" for a many months and definitely don't know the whole story about this certain player but I'm adding my two cents anyway because my thoughts apply not only to one, but to many players.

It would be nice if people would keep their critical comments to themselves, quit complaining, and stop being paranoid delusional about people out to "get them". It would be cool if we could just enjoy the games and good company of international friends in the community. Nevertheless, regrettably, we cannot control what people do or say. Things like stating our opinions, making request, giving gentle reminders, and even disagreeing in a simple and non-contentious way tend to be more effective. We can't change or control them, but we may be able to affect how they respond in a more positive way. And even then, some people are just immune to kindness and will act how they will regardless.

Some people bring out the best in others. Some bring out the worst. I'd say just don't play her/his game. (and I mean that figuratively, I don't mean TtR or GoF) Sounds like this person thrives off of attention, positive or negative. And if people refuse to play by socially acceptable rules, everyone has the right to choose to deal with them, ignore them, or find somewhere else to go.

All the while, I agree, an option for a "start" button as well as a "boot" button with corresponding drop down phrases as to why we cannot or will not start the game would be an amazingly awesome addition to make DoW a superior game site. Please consider doing this DoW! I believe Baron and others have previously referred to having this option to reduce the numbers of complaints rolling in.

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Re:add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Fri, 15 May 2009 01:04
The Blue Baron schrieb am Wed, 13 May 2009 21:18

You have been mostly absent for much of the last 4 or so months Mudda. I love you as a friend man, but sometimes you write posts without really knowing a lot of the situation.

You are right my friend and I love You too Embarassed But we AAAAALL know that its Your interest #1 to ban +Dennis+ for nearly the same reasons DOW banned one of Your 5 accounts a couple of months ago... right?!

Geeeez I read Your "copy" email-traffic to some of Your T2R friends today and I must say: try to spend Your time on different matrixes and not only in the T2R world...

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Baron Von Schmidt
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Re:add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Fri, 15 May 2009 02:48
Muddaihrsohn wrote on Thu, 14 May 2009 19:04


You are right my friend and I love You too Embarassed


Hmmm, not quite sure what you are referring to actually. A year and a half ago DoW did something similar to the account I had active where they "muted" it for 1 month. They did not have in place then the muting feature for the lobby and games but I was unable to post or send pm's for a month. And I don't know why you would say "for nearly the same reasons" because I was never told the exact reasons why the action was taken. I was only informed that there had been complaints filed against me but they would not tell me what the complaints were, who filed them or how many there were.

I notice you mention "your 5 accounts" like there is something suspicious. As nearly everyone knows YOURSELF ESPECIALLY, whenever a 6 month or 1 year web card ran out I bought a new one and started over rather than adding the time to the account I had. Each time the "old" account would become a guest account and I would changed it's name and the fresh account would become some variation of Baron Von Schmidt.

So I have no real idea what your point is except to try to be contrary.

Besides I am done with this whole issue now.

Consider my efforts done with this and I'll be silent on others.

Baron



Edited: Deleted two paragraphs that I have learned were not a fair representation of DoW's efforts.

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Re:add your post if you think +Dennis+ should be Fri, 15 May 2009 09:56
The Blue Baron schrieb am Fri, 15 May 2009 02:48

Hmmm, not sure what you are referring to actually Mudda. A year and a half ago DoW did something similar to the account I had active where they "muted" it for 1 month. They did not have in place then the muting feature for the lobby and games but I was unable to post or send pm's for a month. And I don't know why you would say "for nearly the same reasons" because I was never told the exact reasons why the action was taken. I was only informed that there had been complaints filed against me but they would not tell me what the complaints were, who filed them or how many there were.
You are expert in answering Your own questions dude... You always pretend to be the victim, today I got Your 2nd email and You are talking about friendship again. Remember Your own yada yada about problems of players in this lobby that REALLY have problems and You accused them of issues NOBODY SHOULD READ IN THIS LOBBY (dont ask me what I mean, if You dont know its even more sad!). Good clue for the future, before talking of other people and publishing their problems officially - think about Your facts - twice!

The Blue Baron schrieb am Fri, 15 May 2009 02:48


I notice you mention "your 5 accounts" like there is something suspicious. As nearly everyone knows YOURSELF ESPECIALLY, whenever a 6 month or 1 year web card ran out I bought a new one and started over rather than adding the time to the account I had. Each time the "old" account would become a guest account and I would changed it's name and the fresh account would become some variation of Baron Von Schmidt.
And what do You think what the other players of this lobby think of Your variety freedom of names? Tell me one more player who chooses this way of lengthening the account: MUDDAIHRSOHN - since October 2004!

The Blue Baron schrieb am Fri, 15 May 2009 02:48

Besides I am done with this whole issue now.
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