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akrasia
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  2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 01:27
The first tournament isn't quite finished yet but I'd like to start getting the 2nd organized. The first was small but seems to have been a success. The players have been having fun and there seemed to be a bit of interest from a few spectators.

-Top 32 ranked people who want to play.
-For anyone below 1600 or with fewer than 100 games entry will be at my discretion.
-Each round is a best of seven series.
-There will be at least a week to play each round. If games are not getting played time extensions and forfeitures are at my discretion.

If you want to participate post here or send me a Private Message.

If you have questions about the format or rules post them here.

      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 01:29
Also, if anyone would like to volunteer to post this on the other T2R language boards that would be great!
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 02:27
Hey rek,

Don't want you to have to do too much work approving people. Right now there are only 63 people above 1600. Now you need to take away multiple accounts, like fond of a short blonde, a bunch of people I never see playing, wernerus, Angel6, Delay, FastEddy, Mithrandir and these are just people in the top 10, there are others and lastly people who don't want to play for one reason or other such as Frunk who prefers 5 player games and leachris who would be afraid of playing me for 4 games, yes 4, as I would broom her right outta here.

I know it took awhile to get to 8 with the top 100, so I think the range should be expanded a bit. I too fear that going too far down the list will make the first round games uninteresting and also take a lot longer to complete.

Also one last point on the rules that we had last time. We reseeded after every round, but I am unsure whether we did it based on the seedings at the beginning of the tournament or at the beginning of the round. I think they were the same. The reason I mention it is because people could play more or less games to try and move their ranking to avoid one player or try to matchup with someone else. I think we should seed everybody 1 to 32 at the start and keep those as their seeds and reseed each round from there. Just wanted to put this out there to avoid confusion.

      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 04:09
Count me in.

32 is a good number if we can get that many. Maybe limit to top 150??
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 05:48
I guess that means I can't enter twice then...I agree with thekid and SK, I think you have to open up to something like the top 125 or 150, otherwise we'll never get to 32. Half those people in the top 40 I never even see on here and I believe there are other double accounts too. Regardless, count me in.
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 05:59
thekid wrote on Mon, 16 May 2005 20:27

Hey rek,

Don't want you to have to do too much work approving people. Right now there are only 63 people above 1600. Now you need to take away multiple accounts, like fond of a short blonde, a bunch of people I never see playing, wernerus, Angel6, Delay, FastEddy, Mithrandir and these are just people in the top 10, there are others and lastly people who don't want to play for one reason or other such as Frunk who prefers 5 player games and leachris who would be afraid of playing me for 4 games, yes 4, as I would broom her right outta here.





I swear I find something to crack up about almost every time you post something. Laughing

All in good fun, gang..... All in good fun.
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 06:15
Ok, a couple things to address:

Seedings will be based on when I finalize the entrants list, they won't change after that. I'm not going to have any complicated formal rules on this, it is enough work to organize without that.

Entrant restrictions... I'll probably accept anyone and we still may not get 32. The cut off is to guarantee a spot for anyone at the high end (1600+). Below that if we have too many people I want to have some discretion so that I can try to pick people who have the best combination of skill and reliability. I've had a number of decent sub-1600 players express a strong interest in participating and I'd like to give them priority.

I'm not organizing this in any official capacity, so it is what it is. I hope people will enjoy it.
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 09:01
Hello,

I want to participate in the tournament. How it goes? Thanks in advance.

-mila-
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 09:58
Hello,

When we post another thread in the german forum, I think we can get the 32 players.

I'd like to join this 2nd Tounament too. Count me in.

      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 10:11
I enjoyed watching the first tournament. This one I will attend. Thank you for arranging it rek.
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 10:44
I really want to take part at the tournament, even if i am only top 200!
thanks for organizing again rek!

Thad
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 12:37
rek{} écrit le Tue, 17 May 2005 01:27

The first tournament isn't quite finished yet but I'd like to start getting the 2nd organized.
-Top 32 ranked people who want to play.
-For anyone below 1600 or with fewer than 100 games entry will be at my discretion.

I don't find all this very democratic....
A tournament should be open to anyone who wants to join it

If some of you are afraid to lose in front of a low ranked player,I find this not very fair.

If it's only a matter of interest, the good ones will beat the bad ones in 4 games, it will prove they deserve their ranking Please take the 32 first registered ( the most motivated ! ), that's all !



And yes, I won't want to be in, but not for the raison mentionned by "rudekid"
thekid écrit le Tue, 17 May 2005 02:27

there are others and lastly people who don't want to play for one reason or other such as .....leachris who would be afraid of playing me for 4 games, yes 4, as I would broom her right outta here.

first : I am here to PLAY, that means for me : have FUN.How could I have fun with someone so nasty ?

I enjoy playing with any of the top ranked, except one, that's all.

And I'd like "rudekid" not to forget that we are 1-1 Laughing Laughing Laughing then 4 games would certainly not be enough.
I'd perhaps need 5 games to get him out of the tournament. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


second : I don't like competition, I play for myself , not to prove anything to anybody ( except one person who won't read this, but he knows it , I love you darling Wink )



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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 13:10
Sounds like great fun and an opportunity to proof myself.

I'm in! If you allow me of course...

I'm just wondering when you guys play these matches, since I have only a limited access to the Internet. Doubtful

Love,

D.I.S.
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 14:39
léachris wrote on Tue, 17 May 2005 06:37

rek{} écrit le Tue, 17 May 2005 01:27

The first tournament isn't quite finished yet but I'd like to start getting the 2nd organized.
-Top 32 ranked people who want to play.
-For anyone below 1600 or with fewer than 100 games entry will be at my discretion.

I don't find all this very democratic....
A tournament should be open to anyone who wants to join it

If some of you are afraid to lose in front of a low ranked player,I find this not very fair.

If it's only a matter of interest, the good ones will beat the bad ones in 4 games, it will prove they deserve their ranking Please take the 32 first registered ( the most motivated ! ), that's all !



And yes, I won't want to be in, but not for the raison mentionned by "rudekid"
thekid écrit le Tue, 17 May 2005 02:27

there are others and lastly people who don't want to play for one reason or other such as .....leachris who would be afraid of playing me for 4 games, yes 4, as I would broom her right outta here.

first : I am here to PLAY, that means for me : have FUN.How could I have fun with someone so nasty ?

I enjoy playing with any of the top ranked, except one, that's all.

And I'd like "rudekid" not to forget that we are 1-1 Laughing Laughing Laughing then 4 games would certainly not be enough.
I'd perhaps need 5 games to get him out of the tournament. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


second : I don't like competition, I play for myself , not to prove anything to anybody ( except one person who won't read this, but he knows it , I love you darling Wink )




Liberty - Equality - Fraternity, yes? I disagree, of course, but you display that you are French with this post. Laughing Nothing wrong with being French, lest you misunderstand!!

I disagree with you on two levels. First I think you should play and deserve to be in this. Second, the tournament cannot be opened to everybody because then what kind of measure of skill would it be? What if 20 ranked 3000+ join before top players get a chance to, or see the posts? And even if one of them pulled the upset, it would just be said that he/she got lucky, because if he/she were a consistently good player he/she would be ranked higher.

You know I like you and enjoy playing you, Lea, and despite you and thekid's rather hilarious exchanges, you have proven that you are a good player based on your MERIT, on your results. Why shouldn't you have a place in the tournament based on this? I remember a time when I would beat you easily. You have improved and are not so easy to beat anymore.


Best,
SKM
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 15:47
SKMorefield écrit le Tue, 17 May 2005 14:39

Liberty - Equality - Fraternity, yes?
YES !!!!!!!!!!!!
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I disagree, of course, but you display that you are French with this post. Laughing Nothing wrong with being French, lest you misunderstand!!
I'm proud to be french. Nothing wrong with not being French as far as you don't prevent anyone to have dreams ( American dream Laughing)
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I disagree with you on two levels. First I think you should play and deserve to be in this...... You know I like you and enjoy playing you, Lea, and despite you and thekid's rather hilarious exchanges, you have proven that you are a good player based on your MERIT, on your results. Why shouldn't you have a place in the tournament based on this? I remember a time when I would beat you easily. You have improved and are not so easy to beat anymore.
thanks for the compliment Embarassed
but I won't !
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Second, the tournament cannot be opened to everybody because then what kind of measure of skill would it be? What if 20 ranked 3000+ join before top players get a chance to, or see the posts? And even if one of them pulled the upset, it would just be said that he/she got lucky, because if he/she were a consistently good player he/she would be ranked higher.

first : I'm neither sure so many players read the forum nor so many would be intersted.
second : Give everybody his chance !!!!


See you soon !
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 16:04
léachris wrote on Tue, 17 May 2005 03:37


I don't find all this very democratic....
A tournament should be open to anyone who wants to join it

If some of you are afraid to lose in front of a low ranked player,I find this not very fair.

If it's only a matter of interest, the good ones will beat the bad ones in 4 games, it will prove they deserve their ranking Please take the 32 first registered ( the most motivated ! ), that's all !




You don't want to play, but you do want to tell me how to organize it. Wink You are cute. No, this won't be democratic but it will be fair. If you want it another way you can start Léachris' Democratic Tournament and have whatever rules you like (even ban thekid from it if you want!)



      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 16:07
Lea: I want to tell you all how to run your tournament because I am French and we know best. But I don't want to play for fear of sticking my neck out and getting my head lopped off by thekid. Blah, blah, blah. Go away.

Lea our score is 2-1 me:

January 11 leachris 122 thekid 109

January 14 thekid 113 leachris/dumbot 53
Your famous whine game in which you left.

January 30 thekid 126 leachris 115

If you are going to spout facts here, make sure you get them right or go away.

Maybe you are dizzy from staring at all those dog butts day after day. My scenery gets better and better as I pull away from the pack. Mush, lea!!!!!!!
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 17:15
Hi Rek! I´d like to join this 2nd tournament, even I don´t have those 1600+, but still..... Think this would be fun.
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 17:33
rek{} écrit le Tue, 17 May 2005 16:04

You don't want to play, but you do want to tell me how to organize it.
Din't you realize that I like to rule everything aroud me ? just like you Wink

Otherwise, I wouldn't waste time in posts with "rudekid" Laughing Laughing
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You are cute.
How do you know it? Embarassed

And please, don't explain to me that it's a way to speak, I understood it very well Wink
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If you want it another way you can start Léachris' Democratic Tournament and have whatever rules you like (even ban thekid from it if you want!)

how did you guess it would be the first rule ? Laughing Laughing Laughing

      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 22:23
I'm in for the tourney but am also up for restricting it to top 200, for people such as thaddäus and tex who are completely capable of winning but don't quite have the score or rank.

As for people below that, well, there's no denying that we're slightly elitist and there aren't that many people below that line who've showed much ability or potential to us yet. Since I feel we can fill 32 spots with just the top 200 people, I don't see a problem here. Of course, if we can't, then we can bend the rules a bit for the sake of having the tournament at all.

--ElSoy
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Tue, 17 May 2005 22:52
I'm in for the tourney but am also up for restricting it to top 200, for people such as thaddäus and tex who are completely capable of winning but don't quite have the score or rank.

Thanks el soyo!!!

See it with the finals of the 1st tournament, i mean everyone thought thekid and rek would be in the finals and there we are...

So let's have fun and enjoy the game!

Thad

      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Wed, 18 May 2005 04:50
One other possibility for players with a slightly lower rank would be to play an extra round - for example if you had 36 players the top 28 are automatically in the main round, and the last 8 have an extra round to play off for the last 4 spots. Just a thought.
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Wed, 18 May 2005 09:40
plcrams wrote on Wed, 18 May 2005 04:50

One other possibility for players with a slightly lower rank would be to play an extra round - for example if you had 36 players the top 28 are automatically in the main round, and the last 8 have an extra round to play off for the last 4 spots. Just a thought.


Not a bad thought actually.

Not that I will be in the tournament since Rek is completely ignoring me. But I like the suggestion. Smile

D.I.S.
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Wed, 18 May 2005 09:44
plcrams écrit le Wed, 18 May 2005 04:50

One other possibility for players with a slightly lower rank would be to play an extra round - for example if you had 36 players the top 28 are automatically in the main round, and the last 8 have an extra round to play off for the last 4 spots. Just a thought.

good good idea. Everyone would be satisfied and FREE to play Wink!
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Wed, 18 May 2005 10:17
Silvertrain would also speed up for the second tournament, but I'm on holiday for one week starting from today. Rek, when is the start forseen ? My rank ist short below 100.
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Wed, 18 May 2005 10:38
I don't think it'll start for at least another week. Let's set a clear date so that people know what to expect: June 1st.

It should take 5 weeks to finish, so if you can manage to play 7 games per week for those 5 weeks then it should be all good.
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Wed, 18 May 2005 15:26
Peter de Zeeuw wrote on Wed, 18 May 2005 03:40

plcrams wrote on Wed, 18 May 2005 04:50

One other possibility for players with a slightly lower rank would be to play an extra round - for example if you had 36 players the top 28 are automatically in the main round, and the last 8 have an extra round to play off for the last 4 spots. Just a thought.


Not a bad thought actually.

Not that I will be in the tournament since Rek is completely ignoring me. But I like the suggestion. Smile

D.I.S.




Aw, we have GOT to let D.I.S. in this tournament!!! Let him be the honorary bottom seed (since he IS now top 500 after all and moving up!) and play thekid the first round. That way he can go 1 on 1 mano o mano with the man he wants to beat straight off the bat, see where he stands with the best in railroad combat. Laughing

But D.I.S., seriously, how can you stake your claim to the #1 spot with spotty computer access? That is like a Jedi without his light-saber, a boxer without his gloves, a cowboy without a horse, an Ewok without his fur, Superman without his cape or, in your case, a Dutchman without his wooden shoes!! You get the picture. How can you consistently match yourself against the best in railroad combat when your locomotive is only running some of the time??

I have a suggestion for you: While you are scraping around for your daily canned vegetables in the south of Rotterdam, see if you can pick up a used computer!

Wink

SKM





      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Wed, 18 May 2005 15:32
I have never laughed out loud at a post until now. Scraping for canned vegatables. Pure Genius.

      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Wed, 18 May 2005 16:25
Sad

Yeah... well... I'll get back to you on that one.

Funny guy.

D.I.S.
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Wed, 18 May 2005 18:20
Peter de Zeeuw wrote on Wed, 18 May 2005 00:40


Not that I will be in the tournament since Rek is completely ignoring me. But I like the suggestion. Smile



Unless a whole pile of >1600 players want in, you'll have a spot. I assume you can make the commitment to play one round (7 games) per week?

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Re:2nd Tournament! Wed, 18 May 2005 20:05
I sign in.

I completely trust Rek, that he will make a fair and reasonable selection, if there are to many people on the list.

léachris and thekid: Could you please open a dedicated thread for your arguments, instead of thrashing other topics?
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Wed, 18 May 2005 21:04
Zugbegleiterin écrit le Wed, 18 May 2005 20:05

léachris and thekid: Could you please open a dedicated thread for your arguments, instead of thrashing other topics?

I thought that you had more humour and that I liked you, but I had a very bad day, so don't except me to be kind.

My arguments are ABOUT topics, it wouln't mean anything to put them in another thread !

Then, if you don't want to read what I write, PUT ME ON YOUR IGNORE LIST !

I didn't say anything about your delirium on your book and poll to choose your avatar ( that no one answered !) so don't tell me what I can or can't write here !

your new ignored player ...
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Wed, 18 May 2005 21:43
Anyone up for a BOARD game? Surprised
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Wed, 18 May 2005 22:30
I'll play, although I'd like some clarification on how matches are to be arranged. Does messaging someone through the site send them an email or what?
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Wed, 18 May 2005 22:40
léachris wrote on Wed, 18 May 2005 21:04

...
I didn't say anything about your delirium on your book and poll to choose your avatar ( that no one answered !) so don't tell me what I can or can't write here !

You didn't like that? I like it sooooo much. Nod And I got lots of return from people in the lobby or thru PM. Just in case, others don't know what you are talking about, here's the link again http://www.daysofwonder.com/index.php?t=msg&th=4019#msg_ 25262
      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Wed, 18 May 2005 23:40
AlexM wrote on Wed, 18 May 2005 16:30

I'll play, although I'd like some clarification on how matches are to be arranged. Does messaging someone through the site send them an email or what?



Yea, I was really just kidding about that. But if we did, maybe we could all just play "Shadows over Camelot"? It's a nice, cooperative boardgame you see and....


      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Thu, 19 May 2005 09:54
Warner13 écrit le Wed, 18 May 2005 21:43

Anyone up for a BOARD game? Surprised

Warner13 écrit le Wed, 18 May 2005 23:40

Yea, I was really just kidding about that. But if we did, maybe we could all just play "Shadows over Camelot"? It's a nice, cooperative boardgame you see and....


You're kind Warner-Ryan Razz Smile

It makes me feel good to see someone which doesn't think he(she) is THE ONE, just because he(she) has a percentage above 90% of won games. Mad

You are my breath of fresh air, thank you !!! Very Happy

      
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Re:2nd Tournament! Thu, 19 May 2005 14:37
Cool Depending on when you get this organized, put me in. My summer schedule is quite busy though with lots of time away.

I am pretty sure my son, unkowniac, would want to play too.
      
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