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Another Cheater Returns Tue, 28 June 2005 17:43
Mystic Rollmops - How is August 8th 1963 doing? Pretty good except against you and Zebra. When you gonna play with the Zebra account? You'll be #1 with that account if my memory serves correctly. Away with you cheater.
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Tue, 28 June 2005 19:31
mistake

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Re:Another Cheater Returns Tue, 28 June 2005 20:38
Yeah but check the scores with the big negatives cmon. Out out damned spot.
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Tue, 28 June 2005 20:42

On February 1, 2005 Zebra wrote:

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I play under 4 different accounts, 2 registered (Zebra and Mystic Rollmops) and 2 unregistered (kinda anonymous). Playing under a registered account is really more a challenge, while I got at least as good results with my unregistered accounts. The point is that under Zebra or Mystic Rollmops, often the opponent(s) knows my rating and makes special effort for winning ; sometimes they play 'weird' strategies, sort of all-or-nothing strategies. For such games, I have to make really hard efforts to try to keep my rating (eg to keep in mind the number of cards I have, to count the number of spaces necessary for different alternative ways, ...).

So, when I want to avoid headaches, I just play under the unregistered accounts. But I think it's a bit unfair because in this case I feel opponents do not make special effort to win and I can achieve more easily a hidden rating (approximatively) as high as my registered rating.


Mystic Rollmops was created December 16, 2004 as a registered account, and lost to Zebra that day and the next day, and 3 other games after. Cheating sure, but I suppose this could have been worse.

1963 August 8th was created December 4, 2004, quite obviously as one of Zebra and Mystic's guest acccounts. August then went on to a series of great wins against good players and ignonimous losses against Zebra and Mystic Rollmops, capped by this pathetic losing streak to Mystic:

1963 August 8th's score:
01/18/2005 -36 Mystic Rollmops(120)
01/18/2005 -28 Mystic Rollmops(136)
01/18/2005 -47 Mystic Rollmops(97)
01/18/2005 -33 Mystic Rollmops(109)

Zebra is 14-0 against August and Mystic, out of 237 games, roughly 6% of his games.

Again, this could be much worse. There was clearly some cheating going on, but I think if Zebra/Mystic Rollmops begins to play regularly again he will drop to the score he deserves, as 1800+ seems to be inflated. I scrolled through both histories and the win/loss record is not what an 1800 player's would look like. I wonder if more points were awarded back in December?? I wasn't playing then so have no clue.


On January 24, 2005 Zebra wrote:

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I believe there are still other "tricks" ; but I would want to keep some of them for myself before going down through the ranking Cool


I think we now know what these tricks are. Laughing

Zebra's early posts formed the overall basis of my entire TTR strategy when I started out. He seems like a good guy and a good player who dabbled in cheating and figured he'd never get caught. Maybe since histories are open he'll walk the straight and narrow from now on.



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Re:Another Cheater Returns Tue, 28 June 2005 21:06
You used to get 16 points for a win or loss against an equally rated player in 2p games. Now its only 4. A loss to a lowly ranked person used to cost 32 and now its 8.

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Re:Another Cheater Returns Tue, 28 June 2005 21:28
thekid wrote on Tue, 28 June 2005 15:06

You used to get 16 points for a win or loss against an equally rated player in 2p games. Now its only 4. A loss to a lowly ranked person used to cost 32 and now its 8.



So basically 1800 then is not the same as 1800 now, especially since he finished on a winning streak with inflated scoring. Plus, I'm sure the quality of competition has increased since he was active. If Mystic/Zebra is man enough to come back and play an honest, regular slate of opponents, his ranking will go where it should be, wherever that might be. I doubt he'll be top 5 though.


      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Tue, 28 June 2005 22:43
thekid écrit le Tue, 28 June 2005 21:06

You used to get 16 points for a win or loss against an equally rated player in 2p games. Now its only 4. A loss to a lowly ranked person used to cost 32 and now its 8.

ok, I owe an apology Embarassed Embarassed

I didn't take it into account !

when did it change ?
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Wed, 29 June 2005 11:37
It changed on the 24th of January, give or take a day or two.
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Tue, 05 July 2005 05:57
DoW: This looks pretty clear cut, Erzzoin needs the same response that Bum-Bum got...

      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Tue, 05 July 2005 11:55
I agree with Rek, I think it looks clear that Erzzoin/Mystic Rollmops has cheated and should at least lose the points he got by cheating + proper punishment. Is something going to be done about this?

I don't want to be any kind of police here, and the last thing I want do is make false accusations, but I think this should at least be investegated.




      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Wed, 06 July 2005 09:34
"Erzzoin"/"Mystic Rollmops" and "1963 August 8th" account owner's Zebra account has undeserved score 1824. That score shoud be made smaller too. I really don't see a reason to keep any unfair player in the first page of the rankinglist. So DoW people, I am sure you want to encourage fairness. Can something be done for this?

The first page should be for those who play well and deserve the points. I like the fact that most players in TOP20 don't avoid playing with the other good ones. I have played with almost everybody there and I am sure I get the possibility to play with the few I haven't yet played with (except Erzzoin).

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  Re:Another Cheater Returns Wed, 20 July 2005 17:15
Another old player is back - Mithrandir with 1748.

He did beat obiwankenobi all the time, who is a 1590-player.

And obiwankenobi AND Mithrandir did beat mollykins quite often.

VERY FUNNY! Mad

Now, I really think when I had tried to get to the top in 2004, all my opponents were cheater!
And I had so much respect for them!

What are these people thinking - I don't understand this.

Michael
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Wed, 20 July 2005 18:55
Why had Achim2004 and BumBum been punished and those guys won't?
Of course, Mithrandir and the others want to become decent players now, which has nothing to do with open histories. Mad
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Wed, 20 July 2005 22:31
You know what is funny? We all worry about the ranking so much ( at least some of us do, including me). But that whole Erzzoin/Mystic Rollmops fellow just played a couple of games for old time sake against a dumbot and is allready gone out of the ranking again. Maybe we should be a little bit more carefull before we point to new/old/ugly/charming/friendly or German cheaters. It ain`t that important for the majority of the players in this game. That whole Erzzoin type might not have even realised that we have dedicated a whole thread about his so called cheating.

Pur
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I am 25th in the ranking at this moment. Maybe we can point to 5 more cheaters on the first page. That might be the easiest way for me to be on the all so important (at least for me again)first page of the ranking Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Fri, 22 July 2005 14:42
Angel6 wrote on Wed, 20 July 2005 11:15

Another old player is back - Mithrandir with 1748.

He did beat obiwankenobi all the time, who is a 1590-player.

And obiwankenobi AND Mithrandir did beat mollykins quite often.

VERY FUNNY! Mad

Now, I really think when I had tried to get to the top in 2004, all my opponents were cheater!
And I had so much respect for them!

What are these people thinking - I don't understand this.

Michael



They were thinking nobody would ever know. This was in the days before the histories were open. My guess is the majority of top players were cheats back then ('04), which is why I think most of them eventually dropped out... cheating turned out to not be very fun in the long run. And now, with the histories open, it is even less fun because all recognition/respect he wanted to gain by cheating is now gone. Now, as far as I can tell virtually none of the top players are cheats today, unless there is a hack I don't know about. Smile Opening histories was the best move DoW has ever made with regard to cheating.

As far as Rode's comments. I agree to a point but how do we know Erzzoin didn't stop playing because he DID read the forums (or perhaps got a PM or two... no in this instance I did not PM him but am not saying I wouldn't ever PM a cheater just to let him know I know... Wink )? He would have also found the histories open (perhaps he didn't know this before) and realized that there was nothing for him to gain by continuing.

Zepro/Mystic/Erzzoin at one time did read and participate in the forums, so my guess is this is what happened. And no, I don't see a problem, ever, with pointing out cheating, especially when it is blatantly obvious.


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Re:Another Cheater Returns Mon, 19 September 2005 11:17
In another thread some ridiculous accusations were made about well known and most liked players. I didn't want to answer there 'cause it's just ridiculous.

But what about Mr. DELAY? Do you know who he is? I'm sure he's playing relatives and friends but I don't think he deserves his ranking position...

Optimus

      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Mon, 19 September 2005 12:38
It?s really notable, within the last few days this person plays plays only with 3 others:

Schwabenpfeil postcode 73773 Germany
AMTRAK postcode 73773 USA Boise
Unionstation postcode 73773 USA Chicago

all that 3 are guest-accounts...

She won every game!?

Maybe you will answer and tell us if we are wrong or how it works Delay?

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Re:Another Cheater Returns Mon, 19 September 2005 13:26
2 of the accounts were created the same day, the other was exactly 1 month earlier. 62 wins in a row wow. That and the same zip code with different cities means only one thing.

CHEAT


      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Mon, 19 September 2005 14:24
I would suggest our German players PM Mr. Delay informing him/her that we are all well aware of what he/she is doing.

This may or may not cause him to stop. If not, while I understand that it is not the responsibility of Days of Wonder to police everything about this community and go scrolling for cheaters on every corner, the most obvious and blatant cases, ESPECIALLY in the top 20, need to be dealt with.

Let's keep an eye on this.

Best,
SKM


      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Mon, 19 September 2005 15:34
SKMorefield schrieb am Mon, 19 September 2005 14:24

I would suggest our German players PM Mr. Delay informing him/her that we are all well aware of what he/she is doing.

Although I am not a German player, I just wrote a PM to Delay, telling him either to start playing real opponents or to let reduce his ELO to something more realistic (e.g. 1600).

Michael
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Mon, 19 September 2005 16:18
Angel6 wrote on Mon, 19 September 2005 09:34

SKMorefield schrieb am Mon, 19 September 2005 14:24

I would suggest our German players PM Mr. Delay informing him/her that we are all well aware of what he/she is doing.

Although I am not a German player, I just wrote a PM to Delay, telling him either to start playing real opponents or to let reduce his ELO to something more realistic (e.g. 1600).

Michael


Anyone who writes German will do. Thanks Michael!!
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Mon, 19 September 2005 21:47
Hallo,

ich habe auch schon euren Deutschen Retter geschrieben...

Ich spiele weil es Spaß macht...mit meinen Freunden... so komme ich in meiner Freizeit zu meinen Spaß...mir ist es egal wo ich gerankt bin... ich spiele einfach... auch früher mit anderen...mittlerweile nicht mehr... Spiel=Freiwilligkeit also keine Rivalität blendet mich doch aus... wenn ihr das für euer EGO braucht...noch eins Ihr solltet nicht so aufgehen in dieser Quasi-Realität sonst vergesst Ihr die Wirklichkeit...

P.S. ich dachte ihr habt eh schon einen deutschsprachigen (österreichischen) Retter so hat er gleich eine Aufgabe... übersetzen...dann könnt ihr ihm dankbar für die rettung vor der "cheaterin" sein

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Re:Another Cheater Returns Mon, 19 September 2005 22:32
Can someone translate the above. Me no speak-e um German...
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Mon, 19 September 2005 22:55
I could translate that, but i wouldnt like to do it. Learn german or let it translate from your personal hero from austria. Laughing

...and please write more about that topic, it`s so funny to read

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Re:Another Cheater Returns Mon, 19 September 2005 22:58
Ok SKM I try to translate for all our english speaking friends:

Hi,

I´ve written to your german speaking too....

I´m just playing for fun.... with my friends....so I have fun ...no matter where I´m ranked... just playing....sometimes ago with other players too... but not now anyway....playing=feeling free to do something - no rivalry - you might wipe me off, if you need it for your EGO... ohh just one thing: you should not be absorbed in this non-reality, so you could forget the real life.

PS: I thought you have a german speeking hero - so he has a work to fullfill - translate....you can be thankfull to him for rescue you of the "cheating woman"




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Re:Another Cheater Returns Mon, 19 September 2005 23:02
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

In this small world I love Delay!!!!
(Allthough I also feel a bit offended Confused Confused )

Pur,
Rode katers

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Re:Another Cheater Returns Mon, 19 September 2005 23:18
Obviously it is DELAY who is absorbed in non-reality. If she were just playing with friends, not caring about rank, her history would not look like it does. This is a blatant, obvious attempt to climb up the rankings by playing multiple guest accounts. The guest accounts play other people. DELAY, at least recently, does not. Pathetic.
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Mon, 19 September 2005 23:38
Hallo,

die Gastaccounts können mit so vielen spielen wie sie wollen...ich kann spielen mit wem ich will...und du spielst mit denen du willst...noch Fragen..
„… der Mensch spielt nur, wo er in voller Bedeutung des Worts Mensch ist, und er ist nur da ganz Mensch, wo er spielt.“(Schiller)

      
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  Re:Another Cheater Returns Tue, 20 September 2005 09:21
Delay is mainly saying that he is not cheating and that he can play whoever he wants.

For me the cheating was always clear as his 3 "friends" - AMTRAK, Union-Station, Schwabenpfeil - are not so bad players against other opponents but in 60 games never manage a single win against Delay.

The only question for me was whether it would be possible to convince Delay to change his "style", but it doesn't seem so. Sad

I like the idea that the ranking shows the best players in the world, but unfortunately the ranking system + some cheaters won't allow this at the moment.
(in my opinion every game against the same player should be worth less than the last game - e.g. 8, 7, 6... points, because for me it is also "kind of inbreeding" if top players only play against each other; for this "downgrading" I would probably consider the last 100 games only, so that someone who plays 1000 games can still fully benefit against one player 10 times)

Michael

P.S.: Delay wrote to me that he also would have played strong opponents, but not after my unfriendly message - nice tactics!

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Re:Another Cheater Returns Tue, 20 September 2005 09:48
Hallo Angel6,

du hast mich nicht verstanden...

Mir ist es egal wo ich gerankt bin!!!!

Wenn es also für euch so wichtig ist, dann lasst mich doch von Days of Wonder aus der Liste entfernen!! Ich werde trotzdem in diesem System mit nur 3 Leuten und wenn die nicht zur Verfügung stehen auch mit anderen weiterspielen. Ich spiele weil es mir Spaß macht..

Es ist schade das Ihr anstatt zu spielen lieber Hexenjagd betreibt.

Nochmal ich kenne das "Spiel" gut und auch die Hintergründe warum man und wie man spielt.

Also lasst mich einfach spielen, und an Days of Wonder... wenn die TOP-Spieler gerne wollen das ich aus dem Ranking fliege... dann haben Sie dazu mein Einverständnis.

Ich brauche das System nicht, um zu spielen.
"der Mensch spielt nur, wo er in voller Bedeutung des Worts Mensch ist, und er ist nur da ganz Mensch, wo er spielt."

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Re:Another Cheater Returns Tue, 20 September 2005 11:06
Delay schrieb am Tue, 20 September 2005 09:48

Hallo Angel6,

you didn't get my point...

I don't care about my ranking!!!!

If it's that important to all of you, just ask DoW to erase me from the list!! I will still play with these 3 people - and if they are not available against others too. I'm playing this game just for fun..

It's a shame that you prefer witch hunting instead of playing.

Again, I know the game well and why and how one plays it, too.

So, just let me play, and to Days of Wonder: If the Top player want me eliminated from the ranking list you have my permission to do so.

I don't need this list to play.
"der Mensch spielt nur, wo er in voller Bedeutung des Worts Mensch ist, und er ist nur da ganz Mensch, wo er spielt."


I don't know why you freak out like that. Every player in the TOP100 is trying real hard to reach the top. Of course they are mad (at least I am) when somebody climb the rank just like that by winning almost every game against the same persons. Even if they are your friends.

BTW, I'm sure DoW will be very pleased about your permission. Laughing
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns is really WITCHES, THEY ARE EVERYWHERE! Tue, 20 September 2005 12:02
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Now you see one of the many disadvantages of a witchhunt (besides burning people Evil or Very Mad ). We all know that 90% of the people with this strategy are cheaters... But we all know, that 90% of all tour de france cyclist are using doping, that 90% of data transfered through the internet is copyright protected and so on and so on. There is NO proof for ALL oft this and there are always 10% perfectly legal...

So, whats the matter? Let the people cheat, if they want or let them play their (obviously not so bright) relatives and friends. For reaching the number ONE with this strategy, she has to play (counting... calculating...) 1 hundred 60 trillions 236 fantasticillions 90 millions games with a statistical tolerance of... (calculating) 1.

The problem is the ranking system! It's not a ranking, it's a ELO-System.

bye, erps Rolling Eyes
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns is really WITCHES, THEY ARE EVERYWHERE! Tue, 20 September 2005 12:50
You're right, erps, [bip] the ranking. It don't like me very much anyway Very Happy .

Let's have
erps wrote


1 hundred 60 trillions 236 fantasticillions 90 millions games
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Very Happy
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Tue, 20 September 2005 14:07
DOW - Couple of suggestions:

1. Don't let guests factor in the ratings. Make all of their games non-rated. This will make people at least pay to do this nonsense.

2. Allow us to restrict guests from our games. I don't want to play them, nor do many others.

3. When someone tries to log in as a guest have it send an electric shock through their computer to zap them. Then flash on the screen "You will buy a DOW game". A win, win for all of us.
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns is really WITCHES, THEY ARE EVERYWHERE! Tue, 20 September 2005 14:47
erps wrote on Tue, 20 September 2005 06:02

Hi

Now you see one of the many disadvantages of a witchhunt (besides burning people Evil or Very Mad ). We all know that 90% of the people with this strategy are cheaters... But we all know, that 90% of all tour de france cyclist are using doping, that 90% of data transfered through the internet is copyright protected and so on and so on. There is NO proof for ALL oft this and there are always 10% perfectly legal...

So, whats the matter? Let the people cheat, if they want or let them play their (obviously not so bright) relatives and friends. For reaching the number ONE with this strategy, she has to play (counting... calculating...) 1 hundred 60 trillions 236 fantasticillions 90 millions games with a statistical tolerance of... (calculating) 1.

The problem is the ranking system! It's not a ranking, it's a ELO-System.

bye, erps Rolling Eyes



This is not, I repeat, NOT a 'witchhunt.' The term 'witchhunt,' when used in that context, denotes false charges. These charges are not false. DELAY IS quite obviously a cheater, and her tactics are the same as Bum-Bum and Achim's were. She is NOT playing 'friends', at least in fair games. She is playing guests that she either set up herself or had a 'friend' set up so she could get free points. If DoW allows this there is nothing stopping any of us from playing a guest account multiple times to boost our rating. If I am good enough to have a top 20 account, why wouldn't I be good enough to bring a guest 'on board' and get 'his' rating to top 20, then play him 40+ times and take 200 of his points (bring him from 1650 to 1450, and me from 1680(ish) to 1880!!!!! Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes

Sure, it's just a silly ranking system for a GAME, but it's a meta game that encourages many of us to play multiple times, and many of us have lots of fun trying to get higher rankings FAIRLY. True, games are for FUN, but it's no fun trying to play fairly when people are allowed to play unfairly.

If DoW doesn't stop HER, what will stop ME should I decide I want the #1 slot? What is to stop ANYBODY?

(I do understand that one can't do something about every perceived unfairness, but the most obvious cases, especially in the top 20, should be dealt with. That will act as a lightning rod to remove motivation on down the ranks.)

That was just an intellectual excercise, because I do think DoW will stop her when they get to reading this thread. They have before. I'm mainly just speaking to those players who would have DoW do nothing.


SKM

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Re:Another Cheater Returns Tue, 20 September 2005 15:09
Hi

thekid schrieb am Tue, 20 September 2005 14:07

DOW - Couple of suggestions:

1. Don't let guests factor in the ratings. Make all of their games non-rated. This will make people at least pay to do this nonsense.

2. Allow us to restrict guests from our games. I don't want to play them, nor do many others.



It's already on the wishlist i've send to DOW. With FREE GAMES (and guests only allowed to play/join them) that problem is fixed.

http://www.daysofwonder.com/index.php?t=msg&th=4825

So, send Emails to DOW to assist my wishlist Smile

bye, erps
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Tue, 20 September 2005 15:50
Delay wrote:
„… der Mensch spielt nur, wo er in voller Bedeutung des Worts Mensch ist, und er ist nur da ganz Mensch, wo er spielt.“(Schiller)#

Brilliant Zugbegleiterin wrote on the 6th of May:
Next Monday will be the 200th day of Friedrich Schillers death. He said, one can't be more human as when he is acting (or playing, what is the same word in German)


Well, at least the german "cheaters" know Mr. Schiller and have some kind of literal education... Laughing

griselda
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Tue, 20 September 2005 23:16
Hallo 4gris,

richtig erkannt meine Dissertation habe ich zum Thema Spiel geschrieben...

Deswegen noch eine kleine Kostprobe für dich...
„Denn das Spiel ist so viel wie Erholung, Erholung aber brauch der Mensch, weil er außerstande ist, ohne Unterbrechung zu arbeiten. Erholung ist somit kein Endziel, denn man gönnt es sich um der Tätigkeit willen. Ferner gilt, dass das glückliche Leben ein ethisch hoch stehendes Leben ist. Ein solches aber erfordert Anstrengung und ist kein Spiel.“ (Aristoteles)
      
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Re:Another Cheater Returns Thu, 20 October 2005 14:15
Today, I 'googled' against 'mystic rollmops' and got this thread I wasn't be aware of it. I haven't played T2R for a while. I just have played a couple a games a few months ago, but didn't really want to come back. My main purpose was to discover the Europe extension ; but for various reasons, I didn't played it but a few games. And there is little chance I get back to T2R except very exceptionnally. The main point is that I can't really find game improvments (not true for the Europe extension since I don't know it really) and after having played some 1000+ games, I'm interrested to play something else.

Initially, I created the 1963 in order to test some strategies without being ranked. The 'cheated' games were made against my son (I had the Zebra/Mystic account). We played quite normal games except at the end, where he always deliberately chose to lose, indeed for artificially increasing the ranked account.

Now, note that it happened after I was already ranked #1 and #2 with Zebra and MysticR. At that time, I'm still convinced my ranking was not overrated. More, I had noticed that on some games, I had win more than 4/16 points against 1963..., so the hidden ranking of this account was even higher... cheating, mmh, yes, but having reached the highest 1800+ rating (hidden) with an account that lost games to Zebra and MysticR is not a easy task (look at 1963 history!). Now, having not played for months, while others has come etc..., I probably didn't deserve anymore such a high rating. Anyway, I *never* refused any challenge for shameful reasons.

Before writing anything about my real strength, you would have to play against me ; other comments are without purposes. If you want some comments about my play, ask Zugbegleiterin ; I think she is the high rated player I play the most against. Now, I'm not really interrested to play this game, except maybe a couple of times once in a long period.

Maybe DoW should decrease ranking of players that don't play for a while, so everybody will be happy. Actually, I would be rather interrested to test how I would doing with a brand new account (also with provisional ratings), in order to see what's my strength now. The problem is that I won't pay a new account for this ; and if my rating is just decreased, I would'nt get the chance to have a provisional ranking again (and as I stated above, I don't have real will for playing T2R currently). Anyway, my account expires at the end of this year, and I probably won't re-apply for it.

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Re:Another Cheater Returns Thu, 20 October 2005 15:21
hi Zebra,

of course you are a good player!
In another topic there was a discussion about your playing strenght and I wrote you where easily 1700 with your 1963 account.

However, the "I take the ranking seriously"-people around want everybody to have his true ranking, so we don't like that kind of cheating at all. Wink

It's a pity that you don't want to play much more, because I would like to see how good you are!

When the history records were opened, Rek wrote that I was not a cheater because at least I play against real people (but not against other top players). I was shocked! No respect for me at all! Shocked

You, Zebra, were my hero, the player I respected most by far!
Show us what how good you are! That will be great games, I am sure! Very Happy
      
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