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Muddaihrsohn
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Mon, 01 December 2014 20:08
Danke für deine lieben Worte, Lucullupus,

zunächst einmal rätst du richtig, ich lese hier nichts mehr in den Foren, das ist 3-5 Jahre her, dass mich die Inhalte interessiert haben und daran sind unter anderem Mitgleider deiner ach so heiligen Ösi Mannschaft Schuld - niemals vergessen, ok?! Selbst wenn ein Truckerteller irgendwas erwähnt hätte, wofür denn, weil ich mit dem russichen Gegner russisch gesprochen habe? Weil ich die 48 Lokos eines Gegners in sechs Spielen laut mitgezählt habe? Macht Euch bitte nicht lächerlich...

Korekt, weder von GTS noch von UEG hat bisher EIN SPIELER andere über Jahre beschissen und/oder Turniere geschoben, dafür lege ich meine Hand ins Feuer! Deshalb bin ich lieber der Moron als der Cheater!

Ich bin nicht gefragt worden, ob ich überhaupt Zeit hätte und auch dem Forfeit hätte ich beim Stand von 2-1 für uns NIEMALS zugestimmt, denn unter uns - gegen dich hätte ich vermutlich sehr gute Chancen gehabt gell? Very Happy

Und du meinst, weil du beleidigt warst oder ich mich nicht entschuldigt habe, dass ich in der Karibik keine Chance hatte zu spielen, brauchst du nicht mehr zu antworten, soso. Andere Spieler haben mir berichtet, dass du sowieso den ganzen Abend da warst und gezockt hast, dann war die Zeit wohl doch nicht so schlimm oder?

Wenn das die Weise ist, wie Ihr ins Finale einziehen wollt, bitte schön, egal was jetzt passiert:

verliert ihr, sagen alle, ihr wart sowieso zu Unrecht dort, gewinnt ihr, wird jeder wissen wie ihr UEG "geschlagen" habt Cool

Tut mit leid wenn ein Kunde mich bis 22.30 Uhr auf einer Messe festhält, das war nach dem Urlaub der nächste Neckbreaker, ich bekomm meine Kohle leider nicht in den Arsch geschoben. Ich dachte immer noch, dass es hier nicht um Leben und Tod geht aber wenn euch die Argumente reichen, viel Spaß in der nächsten Runde des so lang menschlich geprägten Nations Cups.

Andreas Miksch aka Muddaihrsohn

AAA_Lucullupus schrieb am Mon, 01 December 2014 11:37

Dear Mudda!

1) Nice, that you can laugh about that. I couldnt and I think your teammates couldnt as well.

2) You got a warning from TD because of your bad scheduling during three matches before our clash. Didnt you read that?

3) Cheaters and morons? You dont belong to the cheater group!

4) Good for you to have a nice holiday, but it is normal standard to check before the match, whether it is possible to play ttr there or not - during the match it is too late.

5) After that incident I didnt hear anything from you for five days, no excuse, nothing.

6) Then on Thursday (one day before deadline) you offered me to play on that day or on Friday (simultaneous to Dea's match against Volleytom). I had to postpone another appointment, but I could manage that, so I agreed to play on Thursday.

7) Again you didnt appear. Do you know how annoying it is, to spend two evenings at home, totally senseless, during the pre-Christmas period, where everybody has a lot of appointments?
At least everybody, who has a lot of friends, maybe this is not such a big problem for you.

8.) So, your captain, who was informed about all of our correspondence, was upset about your misbehavior as well and decided to concede our match and therefore the clash.

9) Yes, you wrote a pm half an hour before the planned starting time of the match (8.30 pm), just that you couldnt come, no excuse again.

10) On friday you wrote a "last pm", yes, again without an excuse, where you offered me to play on the last evening. This pm I didnt reply, correct, but why should I? All decisions were made, the clash was over and I was upset about your misbehavior. There was no need for me to reply, no need to waste any word for you.

11) Truckerteller makes a very good job, thanks a lot! And also Volleytom made the right decision, not an easy one. I hope, Tom, you will have a better team without morons next year, then the sun will shine for UEG again!


      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Mon, 01 December 2014 20:50
English forum?

Doesn't seem worthwhile to translate this @#@# into English Shocked
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Mon, 01 December 2014 21:48
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Mon, 01 December 2014 23:02
I would have done like Lupo and would have been happy not to play, not because of fear to lose, but because I wanna have fun here. And it makes no fun, if my opp complains about lokos, tix etc., especially when he doesn't say anything, when luck is on his side.

Missing respect is not much better than cheating in my eyes, sorry. Both follows bad mood.

By the way, if AAA wins NC, I will think, grats to a sympathic (likeable is the right word as I learned now Rolling Eyes ) team Wink

Carsten

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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 02 December 2014 00:15
TuS Tenniskasi écrit le Mon, 01 December 2014 23:02

By the way, if AAA wins NC, I will think, grats to a sympathic team Wink

Hem... well... how to say it ? Rolling Eyes ... Yes ? hum... sure, very nice............. SSSSSSMOKIN' !! Very Happy
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 02 December 2014 06:26
TuS Tenniskasi schrieb am Mon, 01 December 2014 23:02

I would have done like Lupo and would have been happy not to play, not because of fear to lose, but because I wanna have fun here. And it makes no fun, if my opp complains about lokos, tix etc., especially when he doesn't say anything, when luck is on his side.

Missing respect is not much better than cheating in my eyes, sorry. Both follows bad mood.

By the way, if AAA wins NC, I will think, grats to a sympathic team Wink

Carsten




Well - who cares!? NOT me...

Here is the big question: WHY DID NEITHER TRUCKERTELLER NOR AAA NOR ANOTHER PLAYER IN THE LOBBY SUGGEST THAT ANOTHER UEG PLAYER MIGHT PLAY VERSUS LUCU INSTEAD OF UNSPORTY, UNFRIENDLY, NOT APPEARING MUDDA?!


      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 02 December 2014 08:17
Good question, wrong noun(s)

Why didn't UEG suggest that another UEG player substitutes?
Who says we wouldn't have accepted that?

Lupo asked the UEG captain and the TD for a solution of his problem, he never asked for a forfeit.

The forfeit was UEGs solution.
We did not pressure UEG in any way to take this solution.
We didn't choose it from various options.

Please Mudda, ask yourself and/or your teammates how/why this came about, instead of calling a team unfair/(close to) cheating that did nothing wrong here.

Yes, Wernerus cheated (in 2010) - we'll never forget.
I took the responsibility and handled the case as correctly as I could.
No, the current AAA players do not, did not and will never cheat.
No, being unfair or unsportsmanlike is not appreciated in team AAA and I'm sure that we aren't.
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 02 December 2014 08:24
Muddaihrsohn écrit le Tue, 02 December 2014 06:26

Here is the big question: WHY DID NEITHER TRUCKERTELLER NOR AAA NOR ANOTHER PLAYER IN THE LOBBY SUGGEST THAT ANOTHER UEG PLAYER MIGHT PLAY VERSUS LUCU INSTEAD OF UNSPORTY, UNFRIENDLY, NOT APPEARING MUDDA?!

Ho ho ho... stop here, please, Mudda !

If you weren't there, how could you say that ANY PLAYER suggested that ?

Facts :
Thursday evening, most of Red TGV mates were there in the lobby, and we understood that your match wouldn't be played on time because of scheduling issues.
We (the Reds) proposed of course a substitute, by boman or claro, but Tom said that it wasn't possible for these players.
[more or less, it was just messages in the lobby]
And we were probably not the only ones to have thought about this alternative.

For the rest, I didn't know anything more about the controversy, and I just did like I always do, like everyone should do on a sports field : there's a refereee, the TD, to take the decisions, and I trust him.
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 02 December 2014 08:36
Quote:

Well - who cares!? NOT me...

... well, seems you don't care about anything - except yourself?

Quote:


Here is the big question: WHY DID NEITHER TRUCKERTELLER NOR AAA NOR ANOTHER PLAYER IN THE LOBBY SUGGEST THAT ANOTHER UEG PLAYER MIGHT PLAY VERSUS LUCU INSTEAD OF UNSPORTY, UNFRIENDLY, NOT APPEARING MUDDA?!


... that was suggested. At least Tom and Bülent were in the lobby at that time. You should ask them why that was not possible.

      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 02 December 2014 08:54
I think Tom did the honourable thing, but honour might be a word that not everybody understands .............
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 02 December 2014 13:08
ok, back to business

RED vs AAA

Elric vs dea1
Captain's dinner

Tomorrow, Wed 3rd, 21:00 CET
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 02 December 2014 13:52
In a hurry:

I wont answer all the silly questions or react here, i simply dont have time for that. Show me the phrase where i announced anyone unfair, you all behave like typical web-trolls and i wont mess with you, no need! The forfeit was Toms suggestion, not mine and i still dont know details how this developed. Mismanagement?
Nevertheless most important here is, that some of you are close to hire an advocate due to absolutely human "problems" and this 100% doesnt agree with the spirit of an NC we started in 2004/5. I regret that Schwen convinced me to play here again that bad...
Dea, you didnt pressure UEG to forfeit but as fast as you accepted it, shows where sportsmanship in this lobby went...
And a player who chose his opponents in ELO Rankings of 1400 or below for 10 years shouldnt even USE the word of HONOUR!
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: SF Schedule Tue, 02 December 2014 14:28
RED TGV vs Austria

Deveric vs Angel6

Sunday Dec 7th, 9:00 pm CET

come and watch, at the moment it would be the duel #1 vs #2 overall Wink
Ups - Deveric dropped a couple of points, the #1 is available again (for every average 1800 player Smile )

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Re:NC2014 Knockout: SF Schedule Tue, 02 December 2014 17:33
AAA vs RED
Lucullupus vs toutoune
Friday december 5th, from 9:30pm

As there is for me a very small risk with real life event, we kept sunday evening 9:30 schedule as back up (during, after deveric vs angel)

And if it can bring warmness to Mudda, I will play my best, for my teamates and for you Wink

Because, sorry to add to the harsh discussion: I fully approve the decision from TD, no discussion. But I feel a bit sad for the UEG team. Perhaps some extra days were a possibility to negociate, knowing the difficulties to connect for Mudda and possible substitutes. And I feel the point from Volleytom point of view to resign with honour, sportmanship beeing still the most important at the end.
This is just a game...

Anyway... Show must go on...

TA TA TAM ELRIC !!!
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 02 December 2014 18:40
Muddaihrsohn wrote on Tue, 02 December 2014 13:52

And a player who chose his opponents in ELO Rankings of 1400 or below for 10 years shouldnt even USE the word of HONOUR!


As you know i don't choose my opponents: i just open and play anyone who joins, even you. Of all my opponents over these many years only one who i played regularly has never congratulated me if i won. Want to guess who that is .......?
I suppose i had too many locos or too good tickets in those games Rolling Eyes

You sound like someone who blames the whole world except himself and now are actually surprised that it was your own teammates who got fed up with you rather than the rest of the community.
Hope you can regain your fun someday.
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 02 December 2014 21:26
Good luck all Teams in Semifinals !!!!
Hope of interesting and exiting clashes!!!

Greetings
Bülent Cool
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 02 December 2014 22:50
Just adding a comment, which I think many of us are thinking...that this just SUCKS. It's a shame that a forfeit occurs at this late of a stage in NC. Seems like there was some bad communication going on, and I wonder how it can be prevented in the future? Make sure your subs are available and kept in the loop?

I wouldn't go as far as Kasi to say that AAA is sympathetic (maybe there's a different word you were looking for?) They took advantage of a bad situation. I understand it's beyond irritating for your teammate to get jerked around. Emotions then make the level of play useless at that point...leading to major complaints if the match is played and lost. I understand how tough it is for Tom to have a teammate that doesn't care and has another teammate (Buly) that does care and cannot play. The overall result just stinks on both sides.

A last word for Mudda: You showed up to this NC ranting and raving about new players from a specific nationality. Really disrespectful on your part. You continue to rant and rave about cheaters and morons. After being gone for a couple years, why are you surprised at the level of play - even if they're new? You're rusty and out of the loop. We've worked hard to filter out new (or old) cheaters and nuisances - with good results. NC is alive and thriving after almost disappearing 2 yrs ago. Sure the community has changed, but most of us really enjoy what happens here.

Also, don't bring up the glory days of 2004/5. The level of play is much higher and more competitive now than it was back in the 'day' with the good ole boys... Rolling Eyes

Now...hopefully there can be a solution to prevent something like this happening again. Good luck to those in the semi finals, although I may feel a little more RED from now on...if you know what I mean... Twisted Evil Laughing

      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Wed, 03 December 2014 02:19
I pretty much agree with what ommie said.

Too late for this year, but this kind of thing shouldn't happen. Better to find a solution that involves actually playing out the match.

Of course, I guess if you put people on your team that don't communicate well, then you suffer the consequences. I'm pretty lax as a team captain, but I could easily see something like this happening to my team - i.e. not knowing there is a problem till its too late.

And I am fine with it all as long as Sysy doesn't win 2 NCs! Go AAA!

      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Wed, 03 December 2014 14:00
For those who are now fearful that showing up late or having trouble scheduling will lead to catastrophe, let me clarify:

I have granted everybody who asked - and that's more than 10 times this NC - to schedule after the deadline. My answers: "sure" / "ok" / "np". To me not playing a match is a travesty and I'm sure this can be avoided somehow if the players and captains are constructive and communicate with one-another.

In this case however, we have someone who doesn't communicate with his captain, who has waited a week in three previous matches to show any sign of life and whose most prominent form of communication consists of insulting his opponents while endlessly counting and lamenting locos. He therefore had received a warning already and after messing up again during the Quarter Finals, I think it's fair that he and UEG feel the consequences. After a warning, precisely this was the risk of putting him in the line-up. Still, I'm sure if Mudda had any contact with his captain after missing his first scheduled appointment and they had asked me to sub Claro and play on a later day, this would still have been ok. Vacuously showing up and blaming everyone else at least three days after the fact just looks ridiculous.
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Wed, 03 December 2014 20:49
AAA - RED
Steve vs. Sysyphus - Pommard will take place...

Saturday, Dec. 6th, 9.00 pm CET

      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Thu, 04 December 2014 00:00
Elric - dea
1:5

1) my start
Den-Pitt, Den-EP
Kasi told me to always start with 6 orange so I do Wink
Elric gets 6 white and grey, 6 pink for me.
I block 5 black, but as usual when I block something he doesn't have that and I lose vs Sea-LA, Cal-SLC.

2) LA-Chi, Cal-Phe
I have 6 orange (yes Kasi, I hear you) and play 5 white after Elric's 4 green. Elric has 6 grey (played in blue), I have 4 pink when Elric play 6 yellow. Hel-Cal from me, Sea-Cal from Elric and I spend my 5 locos on 6 white.
It still takes a while until I can finally play to LA, but Elric is too busy to connect his Win-Lr, SSM-Okl now to think about a revenge block.
Adrenalin rising but I win - Kasi types "dea all in" in the Lobby

3) Elric has Dul-EP, Dul-Hou, Win-Hou but I have 42

4) Van-Mon, Kan-Hou vs SSM-Okl, Den-Pit
6 yellow + orange for me, 6 grey Elric, 5 black - 6 pink Elric, I connect.
Would have like those 6s too ... so now I need longest to win that with my dead Kan-Hou, or don't I? I keep the option open as long as possible, Elric kills my longest by completing his SSM-Okl so I finish with 6 red and it's just enough by force of track points.

5) Sea-NY, La-NY vs La-Chi, Cal-Phe
Good nerves needed again ...
6 yellow - 6 orange (Elric)
4 green - 6 black
5 white ... shivering ... he doesn't block LA and I can at least go there.
I have material to go to NY but that's all blockable as hell, so let's wait as long as possible.
Elric plays to SLC and from LA to SF and finally spends 6 blue.
OK, change of plans, I play 5 pink Po-SF and trust that he'll now connect his tracks. 6 grey for me next, Elric has no black and blue left and I can connect NY with the North route.
Some discussions about "all in" again ...

6) SSM-Okl, Den-EP
I get a nice route with tons of track points (28+ on the board and longest) but Elric has connected LA-Hel-Chi-NY, draws ticks and keeps 2, connects Dul and EP.
I count a win for him and am about to draw when I realize that the only tickets I could draw are the ones I just assumed him to have.
So I don't draw and prepare to type "grats" - surprise, he has a dead Bos-Mia and I've won - lesson learned: Never even think about a premature "grats"

Thx for thrilling games, Elric.
Looking Forward to the rest of our clash - tension guaranteed
Goooooooooooooooooo AAA
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Thu, 04 December 2014 01:12
Val vs Goupil
Saturday 6th 8:00 AM CET
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Thu, 04 December 2014 01:57
SOJA - Taka

Saturday Dec 6
08.00 CET SOJA Val vs Taka Goupil Hermitage
15.00 CET SOJA maunaloa vs Taka famillesm
Sunday Dec 7
20.00 CET SOJA Patterson vs Taka Maf
21.00 CET SOJA Make72 vs Taka Nicolas21

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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Fri, 05 December 2014 23:38
AAA vs Red
Lucullupus vs toutoune 2.5 - 3.5

1) Dal-NY + SSM-OC vs LA-Mi + La-Chi (Van-Mon discarded!) and start
easy win for me 111:128

2) Van-Mon - Cal-SLC vs LA-NY -Chi-NO (Dul-Hou discarded)
easy win for Lupo 113:074

3) Den-Pi + Sea-LA (-Mon-Atl at the end) vs LA-Mi + LA-NY (SSM-Nash discarded)
easy win for me 103:130

4) Sea-NY - KC-Hou vs LA-NY + LA-Chi (Por-Nash discarded)
tough colors, Lupo is in the north, but I managed to gain the longest by perhaps a small mistake by Lupo.
111:123

5) Mon-NO + Bo-Mi + NY-Atl vs Van-Mon + Mon-Atl (Dul-Hou discarded).
I have very good colors this one. And I start to play with fire, to try to disturb Lupo in the east. But I play too far, and then the counter block kills me. Totally misplayed this one. GRRRRR
123:093

6) Dal-NY + SSM-OC (+Wi-Hou at the end) vs LA-NY + Chi-SFe + Den-Pit
I am short in black, and I spend 3 of my 4 locos on the 6 blacks, since Lupo plays 6s in the north. I play the 6 reds and it works as Lupo blocks NO-Hou. Then I let him do his road, I don't belive in a potential Sea-NY, then I just forgive the longest and put as many points I can on the board. At the end, Lupo can win finding Sea-NY or Mon-NO, tie with Win-Hou, and lose with others. He founds the tie. 127:127
Maybe I had to block the one to kill 2 possible tickets.

Overall, big tickets for me all along the clash, like dea vs Elric. Not always good colors however. And I lost the best hand in 5th game, by a miserable play.


      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Sat, 06 December 2014 09:13
SOJA - TAKA

Val - Goupil

4 - 2

Quite even games, thou bit better luck and tics and all for me.

Val
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Sat, 06 December 2014 17:24
SOJA - TAKA
maunaloa - famillesm

6 - 0

I had really nice tix and enough locos in all six games. I could not believe that i got Hel-LA and Cal-Pho (Van-Mon discarded) two times. Sorry famillesm for your unlucky games.
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Sat, 06 December 2014 23:32
Steve vs Sysy :
2 vs 4

1st game : Van Mon Dul Hou (Chi Fe) vs La Chi La NY 107 vs 125(his start)

I have nice locos but lack a bit of purple, black and white.
He opens 6 black, 5 white, 4 purple 4 blue. I don't have the ideal colors to take the nice track in the north, my fault for not completing my colors open a bit earlier.
I tried to protect myself against LA Mia or a Houston ticket, but he plays to NY after 3 red Duluth Chi that was too out-of-the-box for a rational guy like me Smile, and I missed the target.
I finish in 9 moves but he has longest and 37.
Grats !

2nd game : SF ATL Dul Paso (SSM Nash) vs Cal Phoe SSM Oak 128 vs 121 (my start)

A handful of locos again, but short on orange and black with meh tickets on my start. I kill 3 locos on 6 black, he takes 6 orange. I go 'all in' with 6 green, he lets me through. I connect SF ATL while he takes grey and white, then 4 green and red to Oak. 'All in' again with 6 yellow for me. Then connect through Port/SF and Duluth/omaha with 5 red
He's fast despite my start. Luckily he has to overdraw to get a 45 track, so I take an extra blue to go to Mia and matches his longest.

Good win for me!

3rd game : Port Phoe/Port Nash (Tor Mia) vs Win LR SSM Nash 119 vs 115 (his start)

I go with 6 black fairly early while he takes orange and the north again.
I lay 6 blue and decide to be patient. After his 4 red to Oak, I play 3 white to nash. It'll hurt him pretty bad. I go for track points and it looks way better when he goes to Saint Louis to connect slowly to Nash. I end the game on his start, and it's enough for me.

2-1

4th game : La Chi Cal Slc (Mon Atl) vs Win Lr Dul Paso 114 vs 113 (my start)
Not a bad combo on paper, but I just don't like it.
I can play 6 orange and my locos on 6 yellows after his 6 green on grey, 6 purple and 4 blue to Helena. I take the way through Portland, with 6 black and 6 blue. I give up longest while he's fairly fast against the start with 4 more purple in Omaha, 5 red, 5 white, 5 yellow and 2 to LR.
I connect to Chi, Calgary and Phoenix. It should be enough without longest but I prepared myself to draw just in case (Hel La, Sea La, Cal Phoe, Port Phoe, Dul Paso).
With my single left in hand, I win by one.
Pfeww. Well played by him.

3-1 for me.

5th game : La Chi La Mia (SSM Oak) vs Cal phoe Port Phoe 102 vs 125 (his start)

1 black, 3 red but locos drop in my hand between 30 and 40 cards.
Alas, he took black open early and lays 6 black. Since he took white open, I go 'all in' with 5 white, and leave LA open for the next 6 rounds until I reach 42 cards against the start. I have nice colors to go through the north but he destroys the west super west. While my track is not that bad via Helena Toronto and Atl, he finishes super fast. I have no time to take 44 cards, so I try to fiend a ticket, and nothing...
Well played !


6th game : Dul hou Den paso (SSM Nash) vs Cal Slc Chi Fe 119 vs 113 (my start)

Again a bunch of locos on my side found between 30 and 40 cards. I take orange and yellow early while he plays 6 blue and 6 white in the north. I have all the colors I need open, and finish really with a nice track via Chi-Denver-LA and Houston.
He struggles with a really bad combo Cal SlC Chi Fe.
Not very interesting to close the match...

Fairly balanced games regarding colors/tickets but way more locos on my side. I needed them for a tough fight.
Thanks Steve for the match and for being a classy opponent (via pm or during the match)

See you tomorrow for the fireworks : Angel vs Deveric !

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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Sun, 07 December 2014 21:30
Just finished

TAKA maf vs SOJA Patterson 2.5-3.5

In general, better tix for me including a lucky draw in game 2 to make it a tie. All games well played by maf; lucky enough to come out as the winner.

      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Sun, 07 December 2014 22:34
Taka nicolas21 6-0 Soja Make72
Luck come too late Confused
Grats and thanks for the games soja.

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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 09 December 2014 18:00
CIA ommie schrieb am Tue, 02 December 2014 22:50


A last word for Mudda: You showed up to this NC ranting and raving about new players from a specific nationality. Really disrespectful on your part. You continue to rant and rave about cheaters and morons. After being gone for a couple years, why are you surprised at the level of play - even if they're new? You're rusty and out of the loop. We've worked hard to filter out new (or old) cheaters and nuisances - with good results. NC is alive and thriving after almost disappearing 2 yrs ago. Sure the community has changed, but most of us really enjoy what happens here.

Also, don't bring up the glory days of 2004/5. The level of play is much higher and more competitive now than it was back in the 'day' with the good ole boys... Rolling Eyes


Ranting and raving about new players... from a specific nationality... this is the most ridiculous thing i have ever read here! At one time i was wondering in the lobby there were even two RUSSIAN teams and i pretty much welcomed that point (2010 i even dont remember a SINGLE russian player. An Ommie shouldnt declare Mudda for raving "about specific nationality" - never ever and never ever again, got it?

FYI CIA OMMIE: I started playing T2R a few weeks ago after a 2 or 3 years break, just after i was convinced by Schwen to play with UEG. I had around 1700 ELO (in parking position)... then played two or three nights and became 2nd in 2-player (behind #1 with 1845 far away, dont remember who) USA ranking with 1812 ELO!!!!!!!! You call me what... RUSTY AND OUT OF THE LOOP?! You honestly think being 1800+ in 2014 is more astonishing than back in 2004?!? The only thing that has changed is that there are much more players here, some i met for the first time, some i recognized. I play (compared with dozens of Top 100 players) only Top ELOs - at least that improves that my skills have been balanced over 10 years right now! And i wasnt surprised of any level which by the way couldnt change at all. Its not like soccer so that you develop other tactics, T2R is still about experience, bluffs and ideas (and surely luck). I remember one part in my NC games where an opponent plays 6 black 6 orange with 5 lokos after 26 drawn cards and me having LA-Chi LA-Hel... having NY-Atl SSM Nash... Optimists would say right now: "normal moves". Not Mudda...

Yeah you still enjoy that stuff that happens here in that lobby, good. But why is the "WARNING" folder still and regularly filled with cheaters and morons that use 2nd accounts to gain profit? In a game where they even cannot earn money with?! Your filter seems to work well Mrs Ommie...

Mudda has never been a good loser, he was always complaining about losses. Thats it. But this is not unsportsmanlike, because there is no rule that says you have to "grats" or "gg", theres not even a rule NOT to complain about opponents luck. I am pissed when i lose, especially in NC when i see my opponent has 6 times west coast with 48 lokos altogether and my best combo is San Atl with Win Hou starting 2nd. If you are not pissed then be glad about losing. My mentality is different...

Dea and i had a good talking that other night and discussed what really went wrong and stuff. I repeated that i was not accusing the current AAA team as cheaters but IT HAS BEEN one player out of their lines in the past who ruined many of the ethic boarders. And the Germans had several and the french had (especially) one. Blablabla... If someone searches for buddies or friends within this lobby - hey - its up to him... i wouldnt... respectively i have found some that i have on Facebook and/or private contact and i wouldnt like to miss them.

Get alive and stop trolling - it doesnt make any sense...
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 09 December 2014 18:11
CIA Truckerteller schrieb am Wed, 03 December 2014 14:00

In this case however, we have someone who doesn't communicate with his captain, who has waited a week in three previous matches to show any sign of life and whose most prominent form of communication consists of insulting his opponents while endlessly counting and lamenting locos. He therefore had received a warning already and after messing up again during the Quarter Finals, I think it's fair that he and UEG feel the consequences. After a warning, precisely this was the risk of putting him in the line-up. Still, I'm sure if Mudda had any contact with his captain after missing his first scheduled appointment and they had asked me to sub Claro and play on a later day, this would still have been ok. Vacuously showing up and blaming everyone else at least three days after the fact just looks ridiculous.



And you Truckerteller dont have to excuse or explain again. You have been or you are TD and its your job to do whatever a TD has to do... IMHO your sure instinct was wrong. I never received a "warning" like some players here mentioned and as i already wrote here, i dont see a reason. Or is being warned for not knowing what AGTDN means normal here nowadays? Come oooooon... I repeat: I havent been asked by my team captain if i am available and even the decision to forfeit, totally false i think. So you decided and AAA quickly agreed - life goes on...
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 09 December 2014 20:35
Rolling Eyes

      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 09 December 2014 22:12
Muddaihrsohn schrieb am Tue, 09 December 2014 18:11

I never received a "warning" like some players here mentioned


http://www.daysofwonder.com/de/msg/?th=30144&start=0

CIA Truckerteller schrieb am Sun, 09 November 2014 23:28

With regards to the Round Robin matches, the following two players get a warning:

TAKA Maf, for deliberately dropping his ranking for his match against VdL.

UEG Mudda for unsportsmanlike behaviour in his matches against AGT DN and SOJA Ishamael and not attempting to schedule for a week in his matches against Champ Zil and SOJA Ishamael.



      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Tue, 09 December 2014 23:44
Vielen Dank lieber Schachus. Und jetzt schau ganz oben in diesem Thread und du stellst rasch fest, dass ich bereits geschrieben habe, dass ich hier nichts lese. Und es steht in keiner Regel des NC, dass man es muss! Dann hätte ich zumindest eine persönliche Nachricht des TD erwartet! War wohl nicht möglich...
Jetzt wo ich den Witz zum ersten Mal sehe, habe ich bei WIKIPEDIA direkt den Eintrag AGT DN gemacht damit jeder weiß, dass AGT DN ein ganz wichtiger Spieler in dieser Lobby ist. Manch einer kämmt sich echt allmorgendlich mit dem Hammer...
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Wed, 10 December 2014 08:17
Muddaihrsohn schrieb am Tue, 09 December 2014 23:44

Vielen Dank lieber Schachus. Und jetzt schau ganz oben in diesem Thread und du stellst rasch fest, dass ich bereits geschrieben habe, dass ich hier nichts lese. Und es steht in keiner Regel des NC, dass man es muss! Dann hätte ich zumindest eine persönliche Nachricht des TD erwartet! War wohl nicht möglich...
Jetzt wo ich den Witz zum ersten Mal sehe, habe ich bei WIKIPEDIA direkt den Eintrag AGT DN gemacht damit jeder weiß, dass AGT DN ein ganz wichtiger Spieler in dieser Lobby ist. Manch einer kämmt sich echt allmorgendlich mit dem Hammer...

Wenn dich einer in der U-Bahn beim Rauchen erwischt, erklärst du ihm wohl auch, dass du keine Plakate liest und nicht auf Schilder achtest und fühlst dich ungerecht behandelt, dass du jetzt eine Strafe zahlen sollst, obwohl du keine persönliche Benachrichtigung bekommen hast, dass man dort nicht rauchen darf ... Cool
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Wed, 10 December 2014 15:23
Nächster Troll.
Wie stark der Vergleich hinkt, muss ich hier nicht betonen, dass eine Ubahn kein rechtsfreier Raum ist, fällt dir wahrscheinlich gar nicht mehr auf. Die Lobby ist dir wohl ziemlich heilig, was?! Geh mal vor die Tür - Tageslicht!
Zudem hat es überhaupt und gar nix mit eurer Blitzentscheidung zu tun...
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Wed, 10 December 2014 15:31
Please make some efforts to continue this discussion in english.
It's english forum.
And I'm interested in understanding this discussion.

Thx all.

Stas.
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Wed, 10 December 2014 16:26
I agree Sivorro, although not sure if this discussion is really that interesting Rolling Eyes
Basically Mudda against the rest of the world and no one is winning Crying or Very Sad
      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Wed, 10 December 2014 20:31
I'll try and provide sove translations:(trying to be as literal as possible), but no guarantee it is 100% accurate, anybody may well correct me here:
Mudda:
"Thanks a lot,dear Schachus. And now look at the very top of this thread and you are soon going to realize, that I dont read anything here. And there is no rule in NC, that you have to do that!I would at least have expected a PM from the TD!It seems that was not possible...

Now that I'm seeing this joke for the first time, I immediately created the entry "AGT DN" at wikipedia, so that everyone can see that AGT DN is a very important player in this lobby. Some people really comb their hair with a hammer every morning..."[remark: I dont know, whether this last sentence is the right saying in english, but I didn't know that saying in German too, before Mudda used it here]

Lucupullus:
"If somebody is catching you smoking in the subway, you probably also tell him you are not reading any signs, and complain when you are asked to pay a fine, despite not having received a personal message that smoking was forbidden."

Mudda:
"next troll.
I dont have to point out here, how bad that comparison is. Probably, you dont even notice anymore, that the subway is not a legal vacuum. The lobby is sacred to you, isn't it? Just go outside sometime - daylight! Additionally this has abolutely nothing to do with your [very fast] decision..."
[the german word "Blitzentscheidung" is used, which is composed by "Blitz" and "Entscheidung", which means decision. It indicates a very fast decision, I dont know, wheter you would just say very fast decision in englisch or rather use some other word]

      
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Re:NC2014 Knockout: Schedule and Results Thu, 18 December 2014 10:51
Le message n'a pas de contenu

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