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RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Wed, 29 November 2006 18:25
Many ranking lists...many new names...so a new thread....

I take the time today to post something....I have the impression some players try to get to the top of as many ranking lists as possible. As kotay ^^ Wink is always looking for challenges here is one for you.

BTW...it is the 2nd time I am Number 1 on 3 ranking lists (but doubtful to count the first time...was within a few days of the establishment of the new ranking lists)
Here we go:
general: 1813 rank 1
USA: 1821 rank 1
2 player: 1832 rank 1
Europe: 1714 rank 8
Big Cities: 1604 rank 5

Mega, 1910, Switzerland and Multiplayer: I don't have enough games yet.... will follow soon. Can't play everything and NC at the same time Wink

...to be continued.... Wink

moving on the bad side of postings Wink

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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sat, 02 December 2006 03:08
3 as well.

#1 2 Player
#1 Big Cities
#1 Switzerland

Others

#2 Overall - Still a silly rank to me now with people playing multi. I guess object is to play as little multi to stay ranked there and keep this high.

Multi - Played 9 games so not established yet but if I was I'd be #3.

USA - only played 31 games - #102 Smile might need to fix this one, eventually.

Europe, 1910 and Mega - Coming Soon.
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sat, 02 December 2006 09:28
thekid écrit le Sat, 02 December 2006 03:08

Multi - Played 9 games so not established yet but if I was I'd be #3.

and lango with one game would be n°1 Laughing

thekid :multi: Nombre de parties: 9 - Tableau: Provisoire - Score: 1732 - Rang: 12

Lango :multi: Nombre de parties: 1 - Tableau: Provisoire - Score: 1797 - Rang: 1


established ranking

Rang 	Joueur   	Score 	Parties jouées
1 	Wormsworth 	1762 	248
2 	Rogue 	        1760 	99
3 	Rainius 	1719 	86
4 	retepgolf 	1715 	109
5 	benefred 	1702 	76


I didn't think there were players with more than 4000 games who still didn't understand the provisionnal ranking Confused

I definately can't be in love with (or be loved by)a megalomaniac moron, no, that can't be, no no, no.... Sad

goodbye my lover...Laughing

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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sat, 02 December 2006 14:23
léachris wrote on Sat, 02 December 2006 03:28

thekid écrit le Sat, 02 December 2006 03:08

Multi - Played 9 games so not established yet but if I was I'd be #3.

and lango with one game would be n°1 Laughing

thekid :multi: Nombre de parties: 9 - Tableau: Provisoire - Score: 1732 - Rang: 12

Lango :multi: Nombre de parties: 1 - Tableau: Provisoire - Score: 1797 - Rang: 1


established ranking

Rang 	Joueur   	Score 	Parties jouées
1 	Wormsworth 	1762 	248
2 	Rogue 	        1760 	99
3 	Rainius 	1719 	86
4 	retepgolf 	1715 	109
5 	benefred 	1702 	76


I didn't think there were players with more than 4000 games who still didn't understand the provisionnal ranking Confused

I definately can't be in love with (or be loved by)a megalomaniac moron, no, that can't be, no no, no.... Sad

goodbye my lover...Laughing




Lea, it's you that doesn't understand the provisional formula. After 1 game a person's rank fluctuates wildly. After 9, it doesn't move much more than your win/loss and ratings of the people you are playing. No one on the provisional higher than me has as many games played. Keep questioning me, and you find out how ignorant you really are. In 11 games it will all be moot anyway.

You also managed to forget the real reason for the posting, those 3 little 1's next to my name. Which just happens to be 3 more than you've ever had.

So is Womble a meglomaniac for starting this thread?

By the way what you gonna do when I hit 1900?

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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sat, 02 December 2006 20:15
leachris, its strange that you would refute the facts of thekid's claim on #3 (within 11 games) by stating the proof behind his claim:

read your own post
- thekid provisional ELO 1732
- established #1 = 1762, #2 = 1760, #3 = 1719

so... assuming thekid holds his current win/loss ratio, it would be quite proper to PRESUME he would establish at #3. Of course that is just at a glance for the sake of stating an approximation. Since lango should establish first, thekid would come in at #4 - also presuming that no other provisional players establish before thekid. If all top 15 provisional became established at the same time with the same presumption, thekid would land between #12 and #15. The presumption is not completely accurate, but is not completely off base.


...and thekid, when you hit 1900 i think i'll treat myself to some 18 year old scotch! grats to you and womble both.

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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sat, 02 December 2006 21:15
Rip VanWinkle écrit le Sat, 02 December 2006 20:15

so... assuming thekid holds his current win/loss ratio, it would be quite proper to PRESUME he would establish at #3.


hm, do you know how the provisonnal ranking formula works ? do you know it's usual to win games and lose points (especially when your current ranking is so high)?


if the tenth game is won against 2 (established or provisionnal) players with a elo score under 1532, it makes lose points





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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sat, 02 December 2006 21:25
léachris wrote on Sat, 02 December 2006 15:15

Rip VanWinkle écrit le Sat, 02 December 2006 20:15

so... assuming thekid holds his current win/loss ratio, it would be quite proper to PRESUME he would establish at #3.


hm, do you know how the provisonnal ranking formula works ? do you know it's usual to win games and lose points (especially when your current ranking is so high)?







Funny how you question him but ignore me, cause I know how it works. You can start out really high at about 1890 or so by beating someone really good as I did by beating the then #6. But then you have nowhere to go but down unless you find 2 other extremely high rated people and win. Even if you beat decent people your numbers plummet. Once you get about 10 as where I am now, the numbers have been moving a lot closer to normal. And once you get to the latter end of the teens it won't be noticeable at all. That is why I said no one in the provisional with as many games is higher than me. So lea go look at the formula before you speak on it, or critize anyone else about their knowledge of it. Cause you know nothing as usual.

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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sat, 02 December 2006 23:23
if the tenth game is won against 2 (established or provisionnal) players with a elo score under 1532, it makes lose points.

it means that 760 out 3019 players (25%) can "give" points in the provisionnal ranking

and 384 ouf of 1168 (32,88 %) in the established one

then if one wants to control the situation , one has to chose the opponents : there are more players that make lose points than players that make win points.


and it's even more difficult to control when one plays almost all his games against guests Confused

I thought guests had to be burned Laughing
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sun, 03 December 2006 04:40
PEACE, brothers & sisters!

I believe this thread was started as a place to post various rankings. Not entirely by coincidence it was started by Womble who 'happened' to be quite high up in several of them.
It's obvious that she and the kid are the top players most active and/or interested and/or succesfull in trying to get to the top of as many rankings as possible, so it seems natural they contribute.

A little boasting and a little thrash-talk along the way can be fun, but can't we leave it at that?
What is it that gets people so worked up and personal in a nasty sort of way?
Same thing happened in NC-final and it takes a lot of the fun of this game out of it, at least for me it does.
Let's keep it good-natured! Rolling Eyes
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sun, 03 December 2006 09:26
Hey guys...calm down...

This thread was opened just for fun....knowing that kid and kotay are trying to reach as many number 1s as possible I opened this thread for fun and trash talk and to challenge the boys Wink
Stop fighting...and if you want to... open a thread for yourself.

Why does anything always end with fights and accusations and insults...this really can make you lose the fun with it.

      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sun, 03 December 2006 11:41
don't worry womble and Mr Bean, our fight is a 2 years love story , it will last forever and it's fun that way : in french, we call that : l'amour vache ( I really don't know how to translate: love with eternal fights Confused) all is purpose to us to fight
he writes :I answer, I write : he answers, we can't resist telling eachother how important all that one says is important to the other Wink

finally, womble, congrats for you #1 ESTABLISHED ranks Wink

      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Mon, 04 December 2006 10:36
Thinking the try to get as much #1 positions as possible is a noble goal, I am grateful to the attempts of womble, kid & kotay, because their efforts show what might be possible.

As I can't open Swiss or the new 1910 games, I try to max out in overall, 2 player, Multi, USA and Europe.
And because I would find it unfair only to play USA 2er and EU 4er, I try to play 2er and 4er in USA and EU alike.

Alas, I don't have much time, so I changed my short term goal to get the best rankings with fewest games. I have almost done this:

-) Overall I am 3rd with 1764 and no player with less games is in front of me. Cool

-) In 2 player I am 11th with 1768 and no player with less games is in front of me. Cool

-) In Multi I am 14th with 1674 and no player with less games is in front of me. Cool

-) In USA I am 29th with 1723 and only 1 player with less games is in front of me - Congratulations ikarus1304! Smug

-) In EU I am 9th with 1709 and only 2 players with less games are in front of me - Congratulations atko & dea1! Smug

Have fun everybody!
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Tue, 05 December 2006 06:49
...and what do I know? i'm only like 450 games in so far - i'm still figuring out how things work...

thekid, i've still got the scotch ready, but my bottle is going down so you need to hit 1900 soon Smile

and the main point of my previous post: GRATS to the tops! i think i'll drink to that...
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Tue, 05 December 2006 12:16
Hi

A while ago someone posted that this game is pure luck and the usual tactics of top (6 tracks, longest, 2 ticks) is boring. He was beaten for this. He was right.

Between two players of EQUAL strength it MUST be luck to decide the whole game, because if they are equally strong the only remaining factors are ticks, colors (locos) and starting the game.

Let's assume we have players with different playing strength. I doubt that every player can hold his/her level for all time, so we don't have THE BEST player, we have a pool of players with good quality. It depends on luck, the opps and now on the maps you are playing.

I think the points of Anu and womble are now the "real" number 1 points. Have you played lately players with 1600+ on US map? It's impossible to have the old winning percentage.

1. Blocking is now nearly impossible. Above 1600 (and some 1500+ players too) everybody is masking the tickets as long as possible.

2. The 6 tracks (mostly the first) decides whole games and all 1600+ knows that. Nearly impossible to get most of them.

3. Longest is important, 1600+ know that and fight for them

4. There are ticket combinations you CAN'T beat if a 1550+ player is playing them. No way. Today you will lose every eastcoast against every westcoast or middle play. Today you will lose against most SEA-NY / VAN-MON and an additional good tick (like CAL SL or SSM OKL)

The number 1 is not playing. If he is playing hundred 1600+ players in a row he is down to 1720 to 1750, this is a bet but it will not happen.

Thekid is getting all his points with the variants. No offense, kid, you are one of the best, but even you lost a lot of US map games lately and these new maps are unknown to other players or not played by tops. You need dozens of games in a variant to get the difference to US and without the PC game you will not have so many games.

So there is no 1900 possible in overall, only in the subrankings because as Zeno showed they are 200 points in average above the normal average. Why is this so? Because most of the lower ranked players don't play most variants and i think thousands of subscribers are not playing anymore. Now only the player who CARE for their ranking are playing and the players who play a lot. If you play 20 games a month as many guests or "just for fun" players how can you ever reach a new ranking? After 15 days i believe you are thrown out of the subrankings too.

So the rankings are now all irrelevant for months. And for some players it may the cause for not playing this game anymore... Sad
The ranking was a wonderful thing for points driven players like me but now with all the "i am best in this 3 rankins", "i have lesser games and are better", "with 10% of this, 20% of this and 1% of this i am best overall" this is getting absurd.

The number of rankings is wrong. My proposal was TWO rankings: 2 player and Multiplayer and this would be okay (no overall) but now... And every player who is asking for a composite ranking, ask yourself the question: Why not a composite ranking for the maps? It is clear, that you can reach higher ranking only with playing 2 player games (look at the 2 player and the usa map ranking, mostly equal). And it is still a difference to play 3 player games or 4/5 player games.

I am getting bored (and yes additionaly, i am on a bad losing streak) and i don't see a new hope on the horizion...

Don't worry, my applications will remain...

bye, erps




      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Tue, 05 December 2006 20:44
I like the change. No arguments, just I like it. Smile
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Wed, 06 December 2006 01:11
erps wrote on Tue, 05 December 2006 06:16

Hi

A while ago someone posted that this game is pure luck and the usual tactics of top (6 tracks, longest, 2 ticks) is boring. He was beaten for this. He was right.

Between two players of EQUAL strength it MUST be luck to decide the whole game, because if they are equally strong the only remaining factors are ticks, colors (locos) and starting the game.

Let's assume we have players with different playing strength. I doubt that every player can hold his/her level for all time, so we don't have THE BEST player, we have a pool of players with good quality. It depends on luck, the opps and now on the maps you are playing.

I think the points of Anu and womble are now the "real" number 1 points. Have you played lately players with 1600+ on US map? It's impossible to have the old winning percentage.

1. Blocking is now nearly impossible. Above 1600 (and some 1500+ players too) everybody is masking the tickets as long as possible.

2. The 6 tracks (mostly the first) decides whole games and all 1600+ knows that. Nearly impossible to get most of them.

3. Longest is important, 1600+ know that and fight for them

4. There are ticket combinations you CAN'T beat if a 1550+ player is playing them. No way. Today you will lose every eastcoast against every westcoast or middle play. Today you will lose against most SEA-NY / VAN-MON and an additional good tick (like CAL SL or SSM OKL)

The number 1 is not playing. If he is playing hundred 1600+ players in a row he is down to 1720 to 1750, this is a bet but it will not happen.

Thekid is getting all his points with the variants. No offense, kid, you are one of the best, but even you lost a lot of US map games lately and these new maps are unknown to other players or not played by tops. You need dozens of games in a variant to get the difference to US and without the PC game you will not have so many games.

So there is no 1900 possible in overall, only in the subrankings because as Zeno showed they are 200 points in average above the normal average. Why is this so? Because most of the lower ranked players don't play most variants and i think thousands of subscribers are not playing anymore. Now only the player who CARE for their ranking are playing and the players who play a lot. If you play 20 games a month as many guests or "just for fun" players how can you ever reach a new ranking? After 15 days i believe you are thrown out of the subrankings too.

So the rankings are now all irrelevant for months. And for some players it may the cause for not playing this game anymore... Sad
The ranking was a wonderful thing for points driven players like me but now with all the "i am best in this 3 rankins", "i have lesser games and are better", "with 10% of this, 20% of this and 1% of this i am best overall" this is getting absurd.

The number of rankings is wrong. My proposal was TWO rankings: 2 player and Multiplayer and this would be okay (no overall) but now... And every player who is asking for a composite ranking, ask yourself the question: Why not a composite ranking for the maps? It is clear, that you can reach higher ranking only with playing 2 player games (look at the 2 player and the usa map ranking, mostly equal). And it is still a difference to play 3 player games or 4/5 player games.

I am getting bored (and yes additionaly, i am on a bad losing streak) and i don't see a new hope on the horizion...

Don't worry, my applications will remain...

bye, erps




Sometimes erps you write exactly what I would have written if it were my post. I was even thinking of writing something like what you just wrote before I read this.

Another interesting development is so many top players playing the multi maps and killing their overall ranking. I don't think they meant to originally, but it's simply impossible to maintain a high overall ranking and play too many multi or even MEGA games. So, they just give up and play for fun now (which is kinda nice actually...)

I too have noticed that I find it impossible to maintain the win percentage I once had. I'm barely scratching 50% now, sometimes more sometimes less... but I find that there are so many games where when I look back on it there was no way possible to win, no matter what I did. (Sure I still make mistakes of course.) I have won a few with good east coast routes, and tried to take some pages from the 'book of Kotay' when dealt awful tics, but more often than not the games are predictable and the opponents over 1600 all almost equally good.

And I still think the minor rankings mean nothing (yet) in terms of 'prestige'. There are people I never heard of before at the tops of several of these ranking lists, and people who couldn't scratch the top 50 before are suddenly top 10... but this has been explained well by Zeno.

The question is, is there a 'best' solution? Anyone? Is this just the limits of this game that we're finally experiencing here? After all, nobody would argue that it goes as deep as chess. Maybe as a community of 'tops' we are as 'deep' into the game strategy as we're going to get (sure some are still better than others, but by how much?).

I enjoy playing, but not sure that I enjoy it as much. Especially after the high of NC.

Just some thoughts...

SKM

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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Wed, 06 December 2006 02:17
aw heck - leave it the way it is. things will eventually level off, and the multi rankings will attract new players over time especially those who are attracted to upping their rank in one specific ranking...

OR

dump the 2 player and multi rankings and keep the maps and overall. then you would have map specialists, and the overall would truly be most representative of "overall" and (i think) would mean more - like it used to.
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Wed, 06 December 2006 02:51
from SKM

The question is, is there a 'best' solution? Anyone? Is this just the limits of this game that we're finally experiencing here? After all, nobody would argue that it goes as deep as chess. Maybe as a community of 'tops' we are as 'deep' into the game strategy as we're going to get (sure some are still better than others, but by how much?).


Calm down, everyone is in a funk after NC, and the explosion of boards has fragmented our interests. All we need is some focus. I've been toying with an idea for creating an organization of online players. They would manage tournaments and leagues, establish ethical guidelines, create a Hall of Fame, be our voice in negotiating with DoW, and anything else we might care to do. The reason I believe it might help create focus is that the tourney/league calendar would gently move players towards a map. A league and/or tourney a month seems manageable, with the bigger tourneys (US Best of 7, Europe Best of 5, Tag, NC) interspersed with the smaller tourneys (Swiss, Big Cities, 5 maps, Federation Cup) and with 4(?) quick tournaments a year. Big Cities is boring now because my choice is to thump the clueless, or play one of the handful of good players. If there were 50 good players all learning the map, then it would be more interesting for me, and the month prior to the tourney we would get that many. All we need is a calendar, instead of relying on having people announce tourneys on their own initiative.

Oh, by the way, for a name we should shoot for something egalitarian, something that is not elitist, that welcomes all who might be interested. I suggest creating the

Tournament Online Players Society
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Wed, 06 December 2006 03:34
sounds very cool - however my score wouldn't fit in very well with the T.O.P.S. program. maybe there could also be a M.I.D.D.L.E.S. too!

haha...

or else i will just have to get my butt in gear and win some games!
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Wed, 06 December 2006 03:53
erps wrote on Tue, 05 December 2006 06:16

Hi


I think the points of Anu and womble are now the "real" number 1 points.

Thekid is getting all his points with the variants. No offense, kid, you are one of the best, but even you lost a lot of US map games lately and these new maps are unknown to other players or not played by tops.




Erps do you even think before you write some of these things? You want USA stats here ya go. I'll use the 2 you selected.

Womble Rating 1800 Games 288
Anu Rating 1744 Games 127
thekid Rating 1673 Games 32


I get to 1800 before 288 games.

Care to put your money where your mouth is?


P.S. erps under the old system only one player played to over an 1800 overall rating on USA, Europe and Swiss. Wonder who it could be? I don't wonder, I know.

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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Wed, 06 December 2006 11:01
Zeno écrit le Wed, 06 December 2006 02:51

Calm down, everyone is in a funk after NC, and the explosion of boards has fragmented our interests. All we need is some focus.

I don't totally agree with you, guys.
I think to be right that you meant, Zeno, that we needed some SAME focus.
Because all (at least most of all... maybe except the most depressive ones after the end of NC) top players have focuses, but they aren't all the same !

Some like changes and try to get better in the new rankings, or to catch max of #1 as they can... other to be "economic" in their games (like Angel or Tofra)... other still prefer the "classic" (US / 2p) and would really like to find back their last glory Rolling Eyes (humm... like me Very Happy )... and many other focuses...

But, one thing is sure, the vast majority of top players don't want to, and can't, be ALWAYS on the run ! Every week !!
Now, a rythm is set up with several events and it's great !
Even if I can feel and understand a little bit of bitterness in some posts, like erps's one (disappointment after the NC Final, maybe... ?), just don't be too much in a hurry, too impatient !

But, to be honest, I'm also waiting with much of interest the creation and beginning of the "LEAGUE" Cool

Just my .02 (with my rusty english Embarassed )

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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Wed, 06 December 2006 12:37
Hi

@Kid: Yes, i do. I meant US 2 player. Look at your last games of US 2 and you see a lot of losses against a lot of players you wouldn't lost so many a year before. They are getting better. Of course you are able to climb the US ranking (with whatever 2 or Multi) but i am not telling the future. The only thing i say is that your 2 player US statistics doesn't look so good in the last months as it used to be before (You were at 1851 with playing swiss, you started playing US before NC and dropped to 1720 in this process). Not playing a map for weeks makes anybody rusty and sure you will recover on US too but for now you don't have the old winning percentage or the winning percentage of the other maps (Swiss, BC).

That's all i am saying, US map is tactical done and widely known by most players.

@Elric: Yes, you are right. I am disappointed beyond words.

@All: Yes, League is coming next year.

bye, erps
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sat, 09 December 2006 14:15
First to 4 #1's. 2 player, Swiss, Big Cities and now Mega. thekid can even ticket fiend Smile.
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sun, 10 December 2006 02:06
grats thekid! well done.
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sat, 16 December 2006 11:09
you know kid that I like you and that in many ways we are similar.

I do hvae to say one thing however. I used to think Leachris got offended by any little thing said and took everything negatively but you seem to constantly be taking offense and defending yourself and then ripping on other people. Twisted Evil

and Erps and others. To be DEPRESSED over the NC? Are you serious? Come on now folks, leave your computers for a bit go out into the sunlight and say to yourselves, it's just a game, it's just a game, it's just a game. It won't help me get more dates, make more money, get more lovin, or be a better person, father, mother or spouse. (in fact I'd have to say it does the opposite many times Smile )

And yes I completely agree with many of you. I am VERY glad more tops are playing multis and other variants. VERY glad more tops are not so caught up in silly rating wars anymore. Like the fact that someone has never been number 1 or even close actually means anything about who they are, their reasoning ability, their opinions or views. And like having multiple good ratings means you are any better of a person or anything else except for a better player at ttr.

Pretty much the ONLY reasons I make restrictions on my game to top 300 or whatever is because I would like a challenging game first of all, would like to know that someone will not whine if blocked, would like to not play quitters, and to not play those who will continue on against bots. It's not an elitist thing or worries about losing more 5-8 points for losses. I played thekid lots of times when his rating was artifically low, played psteinx many times after he had crashed after his multi experiences even though both of these players had a greater risk vs. reward for their skill level.

I only hope more people do the same. Top 200 yes I understand, top 100 only? well not so much.

Peace

Bad Baron

(and I KNOW a post will be coming soon from a certain person Very Happy )

      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sat, 16 December 2006 11:40
Bad Baron Bad écrit le Sat, 16 December 2006 11:09

I used to think Leachris got offended by any little thing said and took everything negatively but you seem to constantly be taking offense and defending yourself and then ripping on other people. Twisted Evil
(and I KNOW a post will be coming soon from a certain person Very Happy )

Wink
didn't you expect it would be my post first ? Rolling Eyes

but you know : my lover's post or mine, it's the same Laughing

no ? ok Embarassed

Yes, you're right, I often feel offended by many little things ( but read ancient posts, the war began with some BIG things Wink )

cu Wink
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sat, 16 December 2006 18:17
oh Lea, you are not like that anymore (mostly:) ) I did not mention it in the post to imply that you still are. In factm I really like you now Lea! Smile Smile

I liked Tite Fee first before I knew everything, and then I liked you once we started to talk. The funny thing is, I have only read most of the ancient posts (only made it halfway through the enlgish forum) so I never got to see the kinder gentler you through the posts.

I am glad I have gotten to know you a little now.

ok and it's not the war with kid I was talking about at all, I understand you two have a history and keep going for it if you all want, sometimes it is pretty entertaining Very Happy

It was very late when I wrote that (3 a.m. after a long day) so let me try to explain part of it better.

What I was saying in the first two paragraphs is this. I think pretty much everyone understands thekid is one of the best players of this game. So all I was saying is there is no need to take offense or read things "between the lines" or to defend yourself. If someone wants to believe something different, who cares? The vast majority understand your skill level, it is accepted and has been proven time after time.

I guess the kinder gentler Baron is just asking EVERYONE to chill out (means calm down and be mellow for those who do not know the slang.)

And YES I know that the Baron needs to do so himself sometimes and I thank those who are the voice of reason (well most of the time! Twisted Evil) who are able to remind me to chill out from time to time also.

Peace

Baron

o.k. is this going to be acceptable to like both thekid AND lea at the same time?

Shocked

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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sat, 16 December 2006 19:00
baron asks

o.k. is this going to be acceptable to like both thekid AND lea at the same time?


hmm, interesting question. Taking into account past posts, lobby chat, and translatability of Baron's posts, I place the odds at 0.072%. Unknown variables include mood of readers at the time, and currently unknown psychological issues. Rolling Eyes Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad Crying or Very Sad Very Happy Smile Sad Surprised Shocked Confused Cool Laughing Mad Razz Embarassed

(when in doubt, cover your bases with lots of smileys)
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sat, 16 December 2006 22:09
Bad Baron Bad écrit le Sat, 16 December 2006 18:17

oh Lea, you are not like that anymore (mostly:) ) I did not mention it in the post to imply that you still are.
Don't worry, I didn't even think you could imply it Wink
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In factm I really like you now Lea! Smile Smile
So do I Wink
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ok and it's not the war with kid I was talking about at all, I understand you two have a history and keep going for it if you all want, sometimes it is pretty entertaining Very Happy
Yes yes yes, it's a never ending love story Love

Zeno écrit le Sat, 16 December 2006 19:00

baron asks

o.k. is this going to be acceptable to like both thekid AND lea at the same time?


hmm, interesting question. Taking into account past posts, lobby chat, and translatability of Baron's posts, I place the odds at 0.072%.
0.072 % more than I would say Wink
It never happens Laughing
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Unknown variables include mood of readers at the time, and currently unknown psychological issues.
how did you guess it ?Wink
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sun, 17 December 2006 08:23
I notice a pretty good effect of the new rankings!!!
In the early past i saw many tops playing multis and all different styles of TTR. I think, they didn't before, because trying various games was too hard for the 1 ELO-Ranking. I understand that. To climb to a Top-Score needed a lot of time and games. Now you can risk more, because you stay high in 1 or 2 score-lists, even if you lose points in other games.

Yes, i know, "Ranking is not ALL". But isn't it attractive to catch the one who is 1 rank in front of you? Be honestly!!!

Am i right???
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Mon, 18 December 2006 15:51
2 Player

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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Mon, 18 December 2006 16:49
GRATS

King

Champagne !!!!!

Smile
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Mon, 18 December 2006 17:09
Grats Goscha! Scotch! (for me anyways!)

...and it is always sweet to catch another player who is ranked in front of you. The other day I was 1396 and I played someone at 1399, won, and passed them in ranking! That is a sweet win!

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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Mon, 18 December 2006 17:14
Wow!

Gratuliere!

      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Mon, 18 December 2006 19:00
Wow, 1900, GraTS Goscha!!!
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Thu, 21 December 2006 18:50
Eeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrpppppppssssssssssss, oh eeeerrrrrpppppppsssssss.


thekid wrote on Tue, 05 December 2006 21:53

erps wrote on Tue, 05 December 2006 06:16

Hi


I think the points of Anu and womble are now the "real" number 1 points.

Thekid is getting all his points with the variants. No offense, kid, you are one of the best, but even you lost a lot of US map games lately and these new maps are unknown to other players or not played by tops.




Erps do you even think before you write some of these things? You want USA stats here ya go. I'll use the 2 you selected.

Womble Rating 1800 Games 288
Anu Rating 1744 Games 127
thekid Rating 1673 Games 32


I get to 1800 before 288 games.

Care to put your money where your mouth is?



At least I can say you were smart enough to not take me up on that bet. Did it in 160 games. A motivated kid is a dangerous opponent.

7 established rankings and all single digits for as far as the eye can see. 8th one would be too if if I played it enough. Soon enough. Then the 9th and last will be too. Ahhhh its good to be thekid.
      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Thu, 21 December 2006 23:00
Le message n'a pas de contenu

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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Thu, 21 December 2006 23:06
Grats to Goscha. 1900, wow. We will see if any other player will reach the 1900. Kid, what about you? I think you will never reach that. So come on and let us see what a good player you are, or not? Laughing

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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Fri, 22 December 2006 00:17
2Cutter wrote on Thu, 21 December 2006 17:06

Grats to Goscha. 1900, wow. We will see if any other player will reach the 1900. Kid, what about you? I think you will never reach that. So come on and let us see what a good player you are, or not? Laughing



Have you even looked at any of the ranking tables? Apparently not. Don't need to look far down them to find me. Moron.

      
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Re:RANKINGS RANKINGS RANKINGS Sun, 24 December 2006 16:46
2Cutter wrote on Thu, 21 December 2006 17:06

1900, wow. We will see if any other player will reach the 1900. Kid, what about you? I think you will never reach that.


If by never you meant 2 days then you're a genius. Oh wait, it doesn't. Fool.
      
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