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bug in Japanese Counter? Tue, 29 May 2012 05:19
Hi.

I played the Marines inthe Japanese Counterattack scenario and this happened to me twice.

I clicked on the card I wanted to play but another card went to the board and not only that I lost the card I wished to play. Toward the end of the game I could only see 4 cards when 6 should have been displayed. My opponent at one time reported that he saw the back of 6 cards but at that time I only saw 5.

Did I somehow click someway which hide a card on me? It was really strange.
      
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Re:bug in Japanese Counter? Tue, 29 May 2012 06:59
That scenario has command HQ rules. If the Japanese capture your HQ, you lose a card. If you get it back, then you draw a card. There's 2 of them, so if the Japanese captured both, then the marines would lose 2 cards.

[Mis à jour le: Tue, 29 May 2012 07:02]

      
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Re:bug in Japanese Counter? Tue, 29 May 2012 11:38
JFKoski wrote on Tue, 29 May 2012 00:59

That scenario has command HQ rules. If the Japanese capture your HQ, you lose a card. If you get it back, then you draw a card. There's 2 of them, so if the Japanese captured both, then the marines would lose 2 cards.



I was going to mention that rule in my first post, but neither of my HQs were ever occupied by the Japanese. So, I did not think this had anything to do with it, but perhaps it does. Maybe I should report is as a possible bug.
      
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Re:bug in Japanese Counter? Tue, 29 May 2012 12:48
tank commander wrote on Tue, 29 May 2012 13:38

JFKoski wrote on Tue, 29 May 2012 00:59

That scenario has command HQ rules. If the Japanese capture your HQ, you lose a card. If you get it back, then you draw a card. There's 2 of them, so if the Japanese captured both, then the marines would lose 2 cards.



I was going to mention that rule in my first post, but neither of my HQs were ever occupied by the Japanese. So, I did not think this had anything to do with it, but perhaps it does. Maybe I should report is as a possible bug.


I think that would be in order. Even if somehow it turns out there wasn't a bug, it's best to report the discrepancy and give as much detail as you can so that the crew can try to re-create it on their own machines. Smile

If it's taken this long to discover the bug, though, maybe you've found a sly one! Razz Cool
      
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Re:bug in Japanese Counter? Tue, 29 May 2012 20:09
Yes - I can vouch for John's HQs not being occupied - I'm not sure I ever advanced within 4 or 5 hexes...

John - on a side note : These games took forever! Close to 2 hours, and these are typically 20 - 25 minute games... Did we ever determine if there was a lag on your side? Perhaps a game display issue connected to the card issues?...
      
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Re:bug in Japanese Counter? Tue, 29 May 2012 20:10
Maybe 2:30 - Just noticed your post was @ 2319 hours, and we started no later than 2140...
      
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Re:bug in Japanese Counter? Tue, 29 May 2012 22:33
trentdep wrote on Tue, 29 May 2012 14:09

Yes - I can vouch for John's HQs not being occupied - I'm not sure I ever advanced within 4 or 5 hexes...

John - on a side note : These games took forever! Close to 2 hours, and these are typically 20 - 25 minute games... Did we ever determine if there was a lag on your side? Perhaps a game display issue connected to the card issues?...



A good deal of the delay was my being unable to use the hand I normally operate the mouse with - so I had a bit of trouble operating the controls. I often had to click on a target unit 4 or 5 times and had the same issues with trying to move units. My bad there.
      
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Re:bug in Japanese Counter? Tue, 29 May 2012 22:43
rasmussen81 wrote on Tue, 29 May 2012 06:48

tank commander wrote on Tue, 29 May 2012 13:38

JFKoski wrote on Tue, 29 May 2012 00:59

That scenario has command HQ rules. If the Japanese capture your HQ, you lose a card. If you get it back, then you draw a card. There's 2 of them, so if the Japanese captured both, then the marines would lose 2 cards.



I was going to mention that rule in my first post, but neither of my HQs were ever occupied by the Japanese. So, I did not think this had anything to do with it, but perhaps it does. Maybe I should report is as a possible bug.


I think that would be in order. Even if somehow it turns out there wasn't a bug, it's best to report the discrepancy and give as much detail as you can so that the crew can try to re-create it on their own machines. Smile

If it's taken this long to discover the bug, though, maybe you've found a sly one! Razz Cool



I just ran through the log file and all my cards are visible there, but while playing I could only see 5 then later 4 cards. So somehow, something I did made those cards no longer appear to me.

I will report this strange happening.
      
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Re:bug in Japanese Counter? Wed, 30 May 2012 13:03
I once had my cards dissappear during a game as well. Again, there was no headquarters in the scenario so that rule would not apply. I wish I had tracked it better. I discontinued play to be fair to my side (in other words, when it was my turn to play, I did nothing) and the bot finally turned off and dumped the game after 15 minutes, so no actual record of the battle to report (SORRY JESSE)!
      
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Re:bug in Japanese Counter? Wed, 30 May 2012 13:58
stevens wrote on Wed, 30 May 2012 15:03

I once had my cards dissappear during a game as well. Again, there was no headquarters in the scenario so that rule would not apply. I wish I had tracked it better. I discontinued play to be fair to my side (in other words, when it was my turn to play, I did nothing) and the bot finally turned off and dumped the game after 15 minutes, so no actual record of the battle to report (SORRY JESSE)!


Shocked Oh no!! Shocked Laughing Well, lucky for you, Stevens, Tank Commander is able to submit a Bug Report and try to get it figured out. Razz Very Happy
      
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Re:bug in Japanese Counter? Wed, 30 May 2012 23:30
rasmussen81 wrote on Wed, 30 May 2012 07:58

stevens wrote on Wed, 30 May 2012 15:03

I once had my cards dissappear during a game as well. Again, there was no headquarters in the scenario so that rule would not apply. I wish I had tracked it better. I discontinued play to be fair to my side (in other words, when it was my turn to play, I did nothing) and the bot finally turned off and dumped the game after 15 minutes, so no actual record of the battle to report (SORRY JESSE)!


Shocked Oh no!! Shocked Laughing Well, lucky for you, Stevens, Tank Commander is able to submit a Bug Report and try to get it figured out. Razz Very Happy



I looked at the Bug Report form and one of the required fields to fill out is for an "output log file". Umm, what is that and how do I go about filling in that field?
      
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Re:bug in Japanese Counter? Thu, 31 May 2012 03:19
Go into the folder that the Memoir Online program is in. Typically C:\Program Files\Memoir'44 Online .

There will be a sub-folder called log.

That folder will contain several files, named run1.log, run2.log, etc. The one that was logging at the time of your game is the file you should attach.

And you can take a screen shot from the game replay, if you didn't capture a screen shot during the game. (In fact, if you did capture a screen shot during the game, it would be good to combine both images into a single document.)

It won't let you submit a bug report without an attachment in the logfile space. If you don't have a relevant logfile, you can put a screen shot there.
      
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Re:bug in Japanese Counter? Thu, 31 May 2012 04:07
The important thing is that the crew needs enough information to be able to (hopefully) recreate the event so they can see what the code is doing that it shouldn't be doing or not doing when it should! Razz

So put down as much description as you can about when it happened, how it happened, what you saw, etc. and include as much information as you have with the log file or screen shot, or other item. But if you are missing something, it's better to turn in the form with a replacement piece of information rather than not sending in the Bug Report form at all. Smile

Without a Bug Report, this might keep happening to players simply because nobody notices it or because others don't know how to submit a form themselves. You're doing us all a huge service, Tank Commander! Very Happy
      
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Re:bug in Japanese Counter? Thu, 31 May 2012 11:15
Thanks for the information guys.

I will get that report in ASAP.
      
    
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