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Forum concerné: Memoir '44 - English
 Sujet: Solo Memoir '44: The AI Project (Automa)
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Re:Solo Memoir '44: The AI Project (Automa) Tue, 12 December 2017 18:14
I want to participate to test your system.

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Forum concerné: Memoir '44 - Nederlands
 Sujet: 3 speler serie
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3 speler serie Tue, 12 December 2017 18:21
Hi,
Ik maak graag weer gebruik van jullie gezamenlijke ervaring....;
Heeft iemand een goed idee om een M44 serie met drie spelers vorm te geven? Verspreid over een halve middag en avond, misschien rouleren maar wel wisselende scenarios? Speelt iemand wel eens 1 tegen 2?
Dank alvast!
      
Forum concerné: T2R Competitive Play - English
 Sujet: NC 2017 PLAYOFF
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Re:NC 2017 PLAYOFF Tue, 12 December 2017 12:49
There is not a fixed rule about that.

In the past captains mad an agreement for slot 4 for a similar case.

However I fully understand the desire of TGV of having their strongest player in the tie breaker slot.
If the captains do not reach an agreement they can do that.ù


It is a matter of gifting away for sure an advantage in the line-up or fearing that a botting "could" happen.

No rule about this so TGV could make their line-up as they prefer.

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Re:NC 2017 PLAYOFF Tue, 12 December 2017 14:08
Who is the strongest TGV player?
      
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Re:NC 2017 PLAYOFF Tue, 12 December 2017 14:45
Stason écrit le Tue, 12 December 2017 14:08

Who is the strongest TGV player?


Why don't we do the following ?
The player (if only one) in RUS that can only play steam puts himself on 4th spot Razz

In TGV we can all play java, and some can play steam to accommodate this special need, but not all.

      
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Re:NC 2017 PLAYOFF Tue, 12 December 2017 15:07
We don't have a player which is able to play on one particular platform only. We did proof that in this tournament already. We can all play both, we just want the game to be fair, without those ridicolous "1 bot turn is ok" rules. The final must be played with absolutely random pairs, thats what I am 100% sure about. Without those special 4th places for special players.

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Re:NC 2017 PLAYOFF Tue, 12 December 2017 15:17
Stason écrit le Tue, 12 December 2017 15:07

We don't have a player which is able to play on one particular platform only. We did proof that in this tournament already. We can all play both, we just want the game to be fair, without those ridicolous "1 bot turn is ok" rules. The final must be played with absolutely random pairs, thats what I am 100% sure about. Without those special 4th places for special players.


My opinion on that : I do not think it is necessary to play on steam at all.
We would lose most spectators and playing on steam does not add much value. The "botted player" case you mention is very marginal.
Remember, we play TTR for fun, and the tournaments have always been played with respect of each other.
If one gets botted out, it is up to the players to decide.

One example in this NC is my game against Fainaz : server crashed (that can happen on any platform). I asked him his tix, to confirm he had sure win, and gave the game up. The game was never recorded or played to end, but it really does not matter.

There is no reason that we cannot accommodate an event that might occur during final.
Worst case, some random event disturbs the already random execution of games. It's really just a game, we had fun so far in the tournament and get to play another exciting clash, we are both winners.
There is no reason to complicate things by having some new and convoluted steam requirement.

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Re:NC 2017 PLAYOFF Tue, 12 December 2017 15:31
I thought most players,who is/was interested in playing/watching NC did install steam and tried to play it, just didn't love it.

You sound like a top sportment: "Guys we do it for you, our spectators, if not you nothing of this would be possible...blahblahblah" Smile)))

And that comes from a guy who plays his decisive half-final match without an ad, after post at the very final moment at the forum, without spectators. You really care about specs so much, I mean honestly?

Who really does want to watch games but not able to do this?? Is that really a problem? Would be great to make a pole somehow.

Of course Im ready to compromise, if we really loose the majority of the specs, as you say, I just don't believe this is the case at the moment.

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Re:NC 2017 PLAYOFF Tue, 12 December 2017 17:02
Stason écrit le Tue, 12 December 2017 15:31

I thought most players,who is/was interested in playing/watching NC did install steam and tried to play it, just didn't love it.

You sound like a top sportment: "Guys we do it for you, our spectators, if not you nothing of this would be possible...blahblahblah" Smile)))

And that comes from a guy who plays his decisive half-final match without an ad, after post at the very final moment at the forum, without spectators. You really care about specs so much, I mean honestly?

Who really does want to watch games but not able to do this?? Is that really a problem? Would be great to make a pole somehow.

Of course Im ready to compromise, if we really loose the majority of the specs, as you say, I just don't believe this is the case at the moment.



Thanks for your note. I confirm I was happy to play with Schwen with little anticipation as we managed to find good compromise given our challenging constraints. Of course it is better when it can be played with people watching.

I gave my opinion, that's it. Our captains and TD will take the best decision based on experience and opinions expressed by the community.
      
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Re:NC 2017 PLAYOFF Tue, 12 December 2017 17:03
There is nothing to discuss at this stage to be honest. Rules are the rules. Let's just have a fair random draw and we won't get any platform-related issues probably.
      
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Re:NC 2017 PLAYOFF Tue, 12 December 2017 18:25
If you think NC is not about spectators, then you know nothing of its history nor how fun it's been.

If you have never chatted on skype with other players while watching an NC match, you've totally missed out. NC has been the most important tournament on ttr and spectators have been a big part of it. I realize there are players who don't like to observe games and that's too bad.

Sysy and I have been disappointed with the Steam experience. For long time players, Steam just doesn't match our expectations. I understand the bot issue. If Steam were a perfect upgrade, there would be no platform discussion.


Sounds like TGV and RUS can just submit their lineups and go with what is selected. Smile


      
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Re:NC 2017 PLAYOFF Tue, 12 December 2017 18:58
yeah yeah, poor me never chatted in skype. but thats not about me and what i like or not. not about you and sysy also.

what i did ask is can you observe games on steam if you want to? or you'd like to but didn't get steam? you cant both skype and watch the game on steam, thats the issue?

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Re:NC 2017 PLAYOFF Tue, 12 December 2017 19:44
Java environment is easier to manage together with Skype than Steam.

More important: the observe function was faulty in last NC. This is the part that Ommie addresses. I didn't try it in later upgrades, but in the patch notes there weren't remrks about the observe function.

NC is all about observe the other games. That is the reason for which closed games are forbidden. We thought about playing closed when cheating was a big trouble but went other ways because keeping games open and observable was crucial.

Single competitions are a different topic but team competitions developed on building team spirit through skype chatrooms where we discussed games live while observing.

In any case this is not of big importance, because the real future lies in developing more the players pool of the Steam lobby.


A Postscriptum:

The big falldown was that we were the beta-testers of the Steam version a couple of years ago and we were not aware that the two lobbies would heave been divided creating a rift between the players (nice communication Laughing ) .
That was the final straw: DOW members always saw online competitions as an afterthought and they progressed without their direct help. When we tried to collaborate with them nothing happened of relevant.
We felt betrayed by the lack of communication that practically killed what the TTR competitions were online. We just needed a warning about what they were thinking of doing. Now we are just living a shadow of before Razz
      
Forum concerné: Discussie - Nederlands
 Sujet: Uitbreiding europa
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Uitbreiding europa Tue, 12 December 2017 15:34
Hallo
Bestaat er ook een uitbreiding set voor Europa?
Ik zie alleen maar Europa 1912. Dat is m.i. niet hetzelfde.
      
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Re:Uitbreiding europa Tue, 12 December 2017 20:07
Ik neem aan dat je Ticket to ride bedoeld?

Er zijn verschillende versies van Ticket to Ride, het originele basisspel "speelt" in de USA.

Een Andere basis versie: Ticket to Ride Europe speelt in Europa.

Europa 1912 is een uitbreiding die je niet zonder basisspel kan spelen.
Er zitten regels bij om te spelen met "warehouses" die je met een basisspel kan spelen en extra destination tickets die je alleen bij Tickt to Ride Europe kan gebruiken.

Via deze link heb je een overzicht van alle spellen van Days of Wonder, De ticket to Ride serie zit er ook tussen: https://www.daysofwonder.com/en/games/
      
Forum concerné: Memoir '44 Online - Français
 Sujet: TCOL-44 Saison 8 - Résultats et classement
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Re:TCOL-44 Saison 8 - Résultats et classement Tue, 12 December 2017 19:40
Chalut,
Une erreur de calcul, les Chalopards sont à 162 points au lieu de 152:
Bolkonsky 21
Ah-Soufi 24
Jo'Boomer 30
Deepnet 38
Chat Noir 49

A bientôt
CN
      
 Sujet: COOL 2018 : les inscriptions sont ouvertes !
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Re:COOL 2018 : les inscriptions sont ouvertes ! Tue, 12 December 2017 00:06
Aurélie je m’inscris pour ce nouveau cool
À bientôt
Amicalement Vlad
      
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Re:COOL 2018 : les inscriptions sont ouvertes ! Tue, 12 December 2017 05:10
Je m'inscris pour cette nouvelle aventure Cool
      
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Re:COOL 2018 : les inscriptions sont ouvertes ! Tue, 12 December 2017 08:48
Tu peux compter sur moi Aurélie bises
      
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Re:COOL 2018 : les inscriptions sont ouvertes ! Tue, 12 December 2017 09:03
Désolé pour le retard...

"Je m'inscris Joyeusement!" Smile
      
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Re:COOL 2018 : les inscriptions sont ouvertes ! Tue, 12 December 2017 09:40
Et c'est reparti pour un tour! Je m'inscris pour cette nouvelle saison Very Happy
      
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Re:COOL 2018 : les inscriptions sont ouvertes ! Tue, 12 December 2017 10:22
Je suis un mec sobre moi donc :
je m'inscris à ce super tournoi qui déchire Very Happy
      
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Re:COOL 2018 : les inscriptions sont ouvertes ! Tue, 12 December 2017 13:42
En avant pour la campagne 2018 !

C'est joyeux ou c'est sobre, ça ?
Les deux, mon Colonel.

      
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Re:COOL 2018 : les inscriptions sont ouvertes ! Tue, 12 December 2017 14:08
C est bon pour moi je ne veux absolument pas manquer cette saison.

"je m'inscris à ce super tournoi qui déchire".

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Re:COOL 2018 : les inscriptions sont ouvertes ! Tue, 12 December 2017 15:23
je m'inscris (du coeur)
      
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Re:COOL 2018 : les inscriptions sont ouvertes ! Tue, 12 December 2017 18:35
Je m'inscris pour une nouvelle campagne.
      
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Re:COOL 2018 : les inscriptions sont ouvertes ! Tue, 12 December 2017 18:45
Je m ' inscris aussi pour cette nouvelle saison 2018.
      
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Re:COOL 2018 : les inscriptions sont ouvertes ! Tue, 12 December 2017 20:01
Je m'inscris aussi! Cool
      
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Re:COOL 2018 : les inscriptions sont ouvertes ! Tue, 12 December 2017 20:27
j en suis
      
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Re:COOL 2018 : les inscriptions sont ouvertes ! Tue, 12 December 2017 20:41
Je m'inscris avec une sobriété joyeuse à ce déchirement qui tournoie ! Rolling Eyes Smile
      
Forum concerné: Small World - English
 Sujet: Power Pack 1 & 2
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  Power Pack 1 & 2 Tue, 12 December 2017 09:54
Would it be possible for us who have all the expansions to buy only the cool boxes and trays? Pleace say yes Very Happy
      
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Re:Power Pack 1 & 2 Tue, 12 December 2017 10:40
That would be nice!
      
 Sujet: Official clarifications of Copycat, Lava and Skags?
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Re:Official clarifications of Copycat, Lava and Skags? Tue, 12 December 2017 00:50
Punch wrote on Mon, 11 December 2017 22:46

These three are probably the most confusing races/powers in Small World. It would be great if we could get official explanations for them, with more details than what's on the rules sheet.

Skags

When a Skag Attack marker is revealed: I've seen some official information that the attacker gets back excess race tokens and can use them for the next attack the same turn.

How do different races and powers function when they reveal a Skag Attack marker? Apparently there's an official response regarding Dragon, Behemoth, Elves and Sorceres. First of all, the attack always fails.

Dragon: You lose a race token, and may use the Dragon elsewhere.
Behemeoth: You lose a race token, and may use the Behemoth elsewhere.
Elves: You lose a race token.
Sorcerers (converting): Nothing happens. (You don't lose a race token.) You can attempt to convert Skag elsewhere.

Fireball: Do you get back the Fireball? I assume not.
Pygmies: Do you get to roll for the lost race token? I assume you do, because you did lose a Pygmy token.

Copycat

I assume you pick a power also the turn you select Copycat, although it's no longer the start of your turn.

If you pick a power with tokens (like Fortified), do you lose these tokens at the beginning of next turn no matter what? Or is it possible to keep the same power ("re-picking" it) and thereby keep the tokens?

Wealthy and Historian: These give you victory coins when selecting them. Do they only work if you pick them with Copycat on the first turn (i.e. the same turn that you selected Copycat)? Otherwise (if they work on any turn), can you then "re-pick" them and get the same bonus?

Spirit: Can you pick Spirit on the beginning of your turn, and then go in decline? If you read the rules literally, it seems that you would then keep two decline races until next turn, but then Spirit would stop working, so you have to eliminate one of them.

Soul-Touch: Similar to Spirit. Can you pick it on the beginning of your turn, and then go in decline? The question here seems to be exactly when the previous race gets revived and you get the full count of race tokens. If it happens on the beginning of your next turn, it might be that the Copycatting has already expired.

Lava

This is the most mysterious one. What does "treated as if the Region were conquered" mean?

Lava Orcs: Do you get a victory coin for the Lava "attack"?
Lava Skeletons: Does the Lava-ed region count towards a new Skeleton?

Lava-"attacked" Skags: Does the Lava race get the Loot token?
Lava-"attacked" Leprechauns: Does the Lava race get the Pot of Gold token?
Lava-"attacked" Corrupt race: Does the Lava race have to pay?
Lava-"attacked" Seafaring race: Can you put Lava in Seas or Lakes?



What I know is : you can't copy Spirit, because Copycat is lost like most other Special powers the moment you decline, so you can't benefit from any power that has an effect in decline.

You can't copy Soul-touch either.

Lava Orcs get their VP (I got an official answer for that).

I don't know about Lava Skeletons (waiting for an official answer about this) but I assume they don't.

Loots and Pots of Gold are obtained.

Corrupt gets a VP. That's why they say "treated as if the region is conquered".

You can put Lava in water regions (official answer).
      
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Re:Official clarifications of Copycat, Lava and Skags? Tue, 12 December 2017 05:36
Thanks for your replies! Are you getting these official answers in a forum, or did you send the questions somewhere?

blaxnlion wrote on Tue, 12 December 2017 00:50

What I know is : you can't copy Spirit, because Copycat is lost like most other Special powers the moment you decline, so you can't benefit from any power that has an effect in decline.

Did you get an official answer saying this? Because literally it says that you keep the power's effect until the beginning of your next turn, so you could go in decline and still the keep the power's effect (but only for one turn).

blaxnlion wrote on Tue, 12 December 2017 00:50

Lava Orcs get their VP (I got an official answer for that).

I don't know about Lava Skeletons (waiting for an official answer about this) but I assume they don't.

Loots and Pots of Gold are obtained.

Corrupt gets a VP. That's why they say "treated as if the region is conquered".

If Lava Orcs get VP, and Loots and Pots of Gold are obtained, it suggests that the Lava attack really is to be considered a conquest for all intents and purposes. So I would assume it's also counted for Lava Skeletons.

blaxnlion wrote on Tue, 12 December 2017 00:50

You can put Lava in water regions (official answer).

That's a bit weird then. If the Lava attack is considered a conquest for all intents and purposed, I would have thought that you could not put Lava in water, since the Lava race can't conquer the water region. But I guess the Lava ability comes first - letting you place Lava anywhere not protected by race powers or special powers - and only after that is it considered a conquest. So everything points to Lava being quite powerful.
      
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Re:Official clarifications of Copycat, Lava and Skags? Tue, 12 December 2017 11:44
Punch écrit le Mon, 11 December 2017 22:46


Skags
Fireball: Do you get back the Fireball? I assume not.


No, they are discarded when used, so I don't think you'd get it back.
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Pygmies: Do you get to roll for the lost race token? I assume you do, because you did lose a Pygmy token.


Yes.
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Copycat

If you pick a power with tokens (like Fortified), do you lose these tokens at the beginning of next turn no matter what? Or is it possible to keep the same power ("re-picking" it) and thereby keep the tokens?


We play that you keep the tokens if you keep the power. Otherwise abilities that carry on from one turn to another would be useless (Seafaring, Fireball, Horde of, Gunner,...)
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Wealthy and Historian: These give you victory coins when selecting them. Do they only work if you pick them with Copycat on the first turn (i.e. the same turn that you selected Copycat)? Otherwise (if they work on any turn), can you then "re-pick" them and get the same bonus?


No, the bonus you get for picking them only happens if you choose them on the same turn as you pick the Copycat race.
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Spirit: Can you pick Spirit on the beginning of your turn, and then go in decline? If you read the rules literally, it seems that you would then keep two decline races until next turn, but then Spirit would stop working, so you have to eliminate one of them.


When a race goes into decline, most of the time, the Special Power loses its power, that's also the case here. The Spirit power may have an ability that carries on, but the race is a Copycat race, not a Spirit race, and the Copycat power is lost when it goes in decline.
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Lava

This is the most mysterious one. What does "treated as if the Region were conquered" mean?

Lava Orcs: Do you get a victory coin for the Lava "attack"?
Lava Skeletons: Does the Lava-ed region count towards a new Skeleton?

Lava-"attacked" Skags: Does the Lava race get the Loot token?
Lava-"attacked" Leprechauns: Does the Lava race get the Pot of Gold token?
Lava-"attacked" Corrupt race: Does the Lava race have to pay?
Lava-"attacked" Seafaring race: Can you put Lava in Seas or Lakes?


I'd say yes to all of that. Putting Lava in Sea and Lake regions is questionable, but if you take the wording litterally, you can put the token there if it's adjacent to your mountain, and you don't occupy the region, so it doesn't matter if it's a region you could normally conquer or not.
      
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Re:Official clarifications of Copycat, Lava and Skags? Tue, 12 December 2017 11:49
Punch wrote on Tue, 12 December 2017 05:36

Thanks for your replies! Are you getting these official answers in a forum, or did you send the questions somewhere?


I ask the after-sales service here : https://fr.asmodee.com/fr/support/

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blaxnlion wrote on Tue, 12 December 2017 00:50

What I know is : you can't copy Spirit, because Copycat is lost like most other Special powers the moment you decline, so you can't benefit from any power that has an effect in decline.

Did you get an official answer saying this? Because literally it says that you keep the power's effect until the beginning of your next turn, so you could go in decline and still the keep the power's effect (but only for one turn).


No real need of official answers for this. Read carefully : Copycat is lost in decline, you can no longer benefit from any special power, whether it applies in decline or not. Besides, copying Spirit is useless, since it applies the moment you decline, and declining happens AFTER the beginning of your next turn where it is said Copycat stops.

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blaxnlion wrote on Tue, 12 December 2017 00:50

Lava Orcs get their VP (I got an official answer for that).

I don't know about Lava Skeletons (waiting for an official answer about this) but I assume they don't.

Loots and Pots of Gold are obtained.

Corrupt gets a VP. That's why they say "treated as if the region is conquered".

If Lava Orcs get VP, and Loots and Pots of Gold are obtained, it suggests that the Lava attack really is to be considered a conquest for all intents and purposes. So I would assume it's also counted for Lava Skeletons.


I will wait for the official answer regardless, although it seems that logically, they should get Skeletons for those regions as well.

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blaxnlion wrote on Tue, 12 December 2017 00:50

You can put Lava in water regions (official answer).

That's a bit weird then. If the Lava attack is considered a conquest for all intents and purposed, I would have thought that you could not put Lava in water, since the Lava race can't conquer the water region. But I guess the Lava ability comes first - letting you place Lava anywhere not protected by race powers or special powers - and only after that is it considered a conquest. So everything points to Lava being quite powerful.


That doesn't seem weird to me. The rules clearly state "ANY kind of region" and this is not a normal conquest, it's not the race which makes a conquest, but lava flowing down the Mountain. And it's not that powerful, the only interest it has is against a Seafaring race.
      
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Re:Official clarifications of Copycat, Lava and Skags? Tue, 12 December 2017 16:18
blaxnlion wrote on Tue, 12 December 2017 11:49

I ask the after-sales service here : https://fr.asmodee.com/fr/support/

Ok. I see that the customer service has made mistakes in the past: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1431084/customer-service-an swers-skags-interaction-dragon
As you can see, the publisher had the correct reply. I was hoping for official replies from the designer or the publisher. But we have to go by what we've got of course.

blaxnlion wrote on Tue, 12 December 2017 11:49

No real need of official answers for this. Read carefully : Copycat is lost in decline, you can no longer benefit from any special power, whether it applies in decline or not.

It doesn't say explicitly that Copycat is lost in decline, as far as I can see. Of course on the back of the tile we can see that it doesn't work in decline. I was thinking that it might be that you can pick a power (as long as you're active) and then that power works until the beginning of your next turn (or until another player takes it). But I see now that it says "your active player benefits from this power's effect". That strongly suggests that it's like you say. It would still be good with an official explanation.

blaxnlion wrote on Tue, 12 December 2017 11:49

Besides, copying Spirit is useless, since it applies the moment you decline, and declining happens AFTER the beginning of your next turn where it is said Copycat stops.

No, I can't see that there's anything stopping you from picking a power in the beginning of your turn and then going in decline on the same turn. If it were like I described above, you would then have Spirit for one turn. Soul-Touch would work as normal. But if it's not like that (which seems to be the case), both are useless.

blaxnlion wrote on Tue, 12 December 2017 11:49

That doesn't seem weird to me. The rules clearly state "ANY kind of region" and this is not a normal conquest, it's not the race which makes a conquest, but lava flowing down the Mountain. And it's not that powerful, the only interest it has is against a Seafaring race.

Yes, like I said, the Lava ability comes first, which is not like a conquest, and then we view it as a conquest. Whether that's weird or not is a matter of opinion, I guess. Smile
When it comes to being powerful, I just meant that in all questions, the interpretation is such that the Lava works to your benefit.
      
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Re:Official clarifications of Copycat, Lava and Skags? Tue, 12 December 2017 20:51
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It doesn't say explicitly that Copycat is lost in decline, as far as I can see. Of course on the back of the tile we can see that it doesn't work in decline. I was thinking that it might be that you can pick a power (as long as you're active) and then that power works until the beginning of your next turn (or until another player takes it). But I see now that it says "your active player benefits from this power's effect". That strongly suggests that it's like you say. It would still be good with an official explanation.


The basic rules clearly state you lose your special power unless stated otherwise. Copycat is no exception. There is nothing to suggest it is kept in decline. So no need of an official explanation.

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No, I can't see that there's anything stopping you from picking a power in the beginning of your turn and then going in decline on the same turn. If it were like I described above, you would then have Spirit for one turn. Soul-Touch would work as normal. But if it's not like that (which seems to be the case), both are useless.


Except with Stout, if you decline it is the ONLY thing that you can do in your whole turn. If you pick a special power with Copycats, you can't decline. And same thing as above, Copycat's mirror is lost when you go into decline, so you can't possibly copy Spirit. Problem solved.