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Wordings Fri, 14 December 2012 02:52
On that regard, Truck and Stephan's exchange is good. Drake, dea and Pegaso are usually posting with clear wordings and proposals.
Regarding NC 2012, considering the last vote and the "rules discussion thread", I still think a couple threads have to be opened.
Since I'm not the best at doing the wordings (I'm not the most precise person), any amendment to the proposals below or any other idea is most welcome.

1. Seeding :
There's no question about ELO as a reference anymore.
I think it was clear 2p USA ELO should still be used : I didn't read anyone promoting something other than 2p+USA ELO.

Though, this year's groupping is still questionned in the rules discussion thread :
22: (1,6,7,12,13,18,19), (2,5,8,11,14,17,20) and (3,4,9,10,15,16,21,22),

Truck offered to use the following model :
(1,4,7,10,13,16,19,22), (2,5,8,11,14,17,20), (3,6,9,12,15,18,21)

Now that we have an illimited number of players/team:Is 13.2 Team's rank is decided by the sum of ratings of best 4 players still ok ?

I would suggest 13.2 Team's rank is decided by the average of ratings of all the players in a team to reflect the real strength of a team in RR (provided all the players participate in the RR).

2. Format of a clash in Round Robin.
Currently we have :
RR :Each match consists of 6 games.
KO : 4 bo7 + 1 bo7 tiebreaker.


Alternatives possible :
A.
RR: Each match consists of 6 games.
KO: Each match consists of 6/8 games. Tiebreaker : games won.

B.
RR: Each match is a bo5.
KO. Each match is bo7.

C.
Any decent proposal offered by a contributor.

Personal observation : tiebreaker seemed to give a heavy weight to one single player in a team during NC 2012.


3. TNT.
Observation :
NC was the first TTR online tourney created online when TTR online community has barely started to exist. It aimed at allowing as many players as possible to play NC... and to promote the community to be more inclusive.
Now that community has grown, and that several tourneys are offered :
Is NC still aiming at being inclusive and at welcoming TNT's ?

Truck's offer (amended by Stephan):

Should we allow Trans-National teams in the Nation's cup ?:
A. Yes
B. No.
It's a Nation's Cup after all, and most of the stupid discussions seem to revolve around people's feeling of entitlement to do whatever they want in forming a TNT.
C. The ticket to ride nation's cup is a world championship to decide to the strongest national TEAM. Each country selects its strongest team and this team is entered into the competition.

If YES would be community's vote, would you support :
D. the more the merrier, everyone should be allowed to play
E. Only regional alliances (like Scandinavia, Can-US, Asia, Italy-Swiss), as approved by the TD


We need consistency here. Main argument against a maximum number of player was "NC should be inclusive, and some players wouldn't play if they were part of another (sub)Team."
Custom has allowed TNT to participate, and if we want to be more inclusive, then I don't know why they should not be allowed to sign up.


4. Registration.

Observation :
I'd agree with GSV there, registration can be chaotic and could be improved -even without drama-.

Proposal, remodeling GSV's ideas and revamping current registration rules:

1.
One first phase of registration.
a. Every player has to sign-up for NC : either through his Captain when registering his national team, either individually when a player is not part yet of a national team.
b. When registering their national team, captains should mention if their team is full or not.
c. A player rejected by a full team has to make himself known and has to register individually.
d. TD, at his discretion, can request any player to confirm individually his participation to NC.


2.
Second phase of registration.
a. All incomplete national teams at the end of first phase and individuals are allowed to complete their national team or to form a TNT.
b. All the players who registered in the 1st phase should be included in a team.
c. 2 players with the same nationality are automatically part of the same TNT.
d. If all the players registered in the first phase are part of a team, captains of an incomplete TNT or captains of an incomplete national team are allowed to contact extra players. Any extra player has to submit his registration individually by pm to the TD. Any registration is then submitted to TD's approval.

Observation :
This would make the whole process more transparent. Any team would then be built in the open, with players that personally signed up. Less drama, no bad surprises.
TD would have the option to check any random registration to make sure that the seeding of a team is legit.

[Mis à jour le: Fri, 14 December 2012 03:25]

      

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  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelMon, 13 August 2012 19:50
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule SysyphusMon, 13 August 2012 20:45
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  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Flop KasiTue, 14 August 2012 08:02
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule SysyphusWed, 15 August 2012 22:24
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule onyx puffin LOLWed, 15 August 2012 23:21
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule DrakeStormThu, 16 August 2012 01:20
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule chrismmm_1987Thu, 16 August 2012 03:33
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule JenAckThu, 16 August 2012 09:08
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelThu, 16 August 2012 15:27
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule SysyphusThu, 16 August 2012 20:43
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule RUS WillFri, 17 August 2012 12:09
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule RMarkesFri, 17 August 2012 13:31
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule dea1Thu, 16 August 2012 20:50
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule FLOP HeckiFri, 17 August 2012 00:29
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Mr BeanFri, 17 August 2012 01:20
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule SysyphusFri, 17 August 2012 01:46
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule chrismmm_1987Fri, 17 August 2012 02:25
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule RFAD - Saint-EmilionFri, 17 August 2012 03:48
  A bit disjointed but you hopefully get the ideas... RUS WillFri, 17 August 2012 13:30
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule RUS WillFri, 17 August 2012 13:51
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule TruckertellerFri, 17 August 2012 14:36
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule RMarkesFri, 17 August 2012 15:24
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule QorlasFri, 17 August 2012 18:26
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule RUS WillFri, 17 August 2012 19:02
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Mr BeanFri, 17 August 2012 21:31
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelFri, 17 August 2012 22:17
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule blubesFri, 17 August 2012 23:18
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelSat, 18 August 2012 00:03
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule QorlasSat, 18 August 2012 08:35
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule JenAckSun, 19 August 2012 00:59
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule SysyphusSun, 19 August 2012 02:25
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelSun, 19 August 2012 22:13
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule dea1Sun, 19 August 2012 23:44
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule onyx puffin LOLMon, 20 August 2012 06:06
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule DrakeStormMon, 20 August 2012 08:55
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule toutoune - MorgonMon, 20 August 2012 10:41
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Angel 6Mon, 20 August 2012 12:31
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule RFAD - Saint-EmilionMon, 20 August 2012 13:09
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule onyx puffin LOLMon, 20 August 2012 15:00
  Re: If 4 players, rules that must be changed: onyx puffin LOLMon, 20 August 2012 15:11
  Re: If 4 players, rules that must be changed: SysyphusMon, 20 August 2012 18:01
  Re: If 4 players, rules that must be changed: dea1Mon, 20 August 2012 22:27
  Re: If 4 players, rules that must be changed: FLOP HeckiMon, 20 August 2012 23:07
  Re: If 4 players, rules that must be changed: blubesTue, 21 August 2012 00:21
  Re: If 4 players, rules that must be changed: SysyphusTue, 21 August 2012 00:05
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule tippmausTue, 21 August 2012 11:24
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Flop KasiTue, 21 August 2012 11:27
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule RMarkesTue, 21 August 2012 11:54
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule JenAckTue, 21 August 2012 13:21
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule QorlasTue, 21 August 2012 23:07
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule RUS WillWed, 22 August 2012 13:20
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelWed, 22 August 2012 15:13
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Flop KasiWed, 22 August 2012 16:02
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelWed, 22 August 2012 16:08
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule Flop KasiWed, 22 August 2012 16:12
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule ACP MiguelWed, 22 August 2012 16:17
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule SysyphusWed, 22 August 2012 18:23
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule SysyphusThu, 23 August 2012 04:30
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and schedule onyx puffin LOLThu, 23 August 2012 06:12
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  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormThu, 23 August 2012 10:16
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion QorlasThu, 23 August 2012 12:11
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Angel 6Thu, 23 August 2012 13:14
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Thu, 23 August 2012 13:40
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusThu, 23 August 2012 18:09
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  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion TruckertellerFri, 24 August 2012 00:22
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion RMarkesSat, 25 August 2012 15:06
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusSat, 25 August 2012 18:46
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  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Tue, 28 August 2012 00:22
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusTue, 28 August 2012 06:12
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion QorlasTue, 28 August 2012 08:49
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  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion QorlasThu, 30 August 2012 18:17
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Thu, 30 August 2012 19:17
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion onyx puffin LOLThu, 30 August 2012 21:49
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Fri, 31 August 2012 00:27
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusFri, 31 August 2012 01:19
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusThu, 06 September 2012 05:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion QorlasThu, 06 September 2012 07:48
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusThu, 06 September 2012 15:11
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion onyx puffin LOLThu, 06 September 2012 15:18
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Thu, 06 September 2012 17:11
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Flop KasiThu, 06 September 2012 21:40
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion JenAckThu, 06 September 2012 22:13
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion CAT-pegasoThu, 06 September 2012 23:46
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusFri, 07 September 2012 00:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Fri, 07 September 2012 10:40
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Flop KasiFri, 07 September 2012 11:10
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusFri, 07 September 2012 15:32
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormSat, 08 September 2012 02:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Sat, 08 September 2012 13:57
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormSun, 09 September 2012 00:43
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Sun, 09 September 2012 12:55
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion ACP MiguelSun, 09 September 2012 22:11
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusSun, 09 September 2012 22:41
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  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormTue, 11 September 2012 03:46
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusThu, 13 September 2012 01:29
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusTue, 18 September 2012 02:40
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormTue, 18 September 2012 03:56
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusTue, 18 September 2012 04:16
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Elric - SancerreThu, 20 September 2012 00:34
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  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusSun, 23 September 2012 23:30
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  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion KnockandoSun, 30 September 2012 17:42
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  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusMon, 01 October 2012 15:46
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Mon, 01 October 2012 15:54
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion KnockandoMon, 01 October 2012 16:17
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusMon, 01 October 2012 16:30
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion KnockandoMon, 01 October 2012 17:41
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusMon, 01 October 2012 18:44
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion KnockandoMon, 01 October 2012 19:13
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Mon, 01 October 2012 23:48
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Mr BeanTue, 02 October 2012 08:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusWed, 03 October 2012 20:13
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormThu, 15 November 2012 06:41
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusThu, 15 November 2012 10:36
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion onyx puffin LOLThu, 15 November 2012 15:14
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion RMarkesFri, 23 November 2012 00:18
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion OLE MasimoFri, 23 November 2012 09:07
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Mr BeanSat, 24 November 2012 11:20
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusSat, 24 November 2012 13:46
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Sat, 24 November 2012 13:53
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusSat, 24 November 2012 14:11
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Sat, 24 November 2012 14:25
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion OLE MasimoTue, 27 November 2012 12:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion dea1Tue, 27 November 2012 14:31
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion World ChampionMon, 10 September 2012 03:32
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormTue, 11 September 2012 02:07
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion Flop KasiMon, 10 September 2012 08:24
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion ACP MiguelMon, 10 September 2012 10:31
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion QorlasMon, 10 September 2012 10:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion RMarkesMon, 10 September 2012 22:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion SysyphusTue, 11 September 2012 02:46
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormTue, 18 September 2012 03:33
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules discussion DrakeStormTue, 18 September 2012 03:53
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion KnockandoMon, 24 September 2012 07:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion MaximouR - GingletTue, 13 November 2012 05:03
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion LucullupusTue, 13 November 2012 10:23
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion QorlasSat, 24 November 2012 14:21
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion DrakeStormSat, 24 November 2012 15:29
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion DrakeStormSat, 24 November 2012 15:53
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion chrismmm_1987Sun, 25 November 2012 00:15
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion OLE MasimoMon, 26 November 2012 10:05
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Mr BeanMon, 26 November 2012 23:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion SysyphusTue, 27 November 2012 01:44
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion OLE MasimoTue, 27 November 2012 11:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion DrakeStormWed, 28 November 2012 18:49
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion OLE MasimoThu, 29 November 2012 11:09
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerTue, 27 November 2012 13:16
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion RUS WillTue, 27 November 2012 13:41
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerTue, 27 November 2012 13:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion SysyphusTue, 27 November 2012 15:16
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerTue, 27 November 2012 15:19
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Elric - SancerreTue, 27 November 2012 15:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion LMAA-DNTue, 27 November 2012 17:28
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerTue, 27 November 2012 13:48
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion GenuineFauxFarm-CIATue, 27 November 2012 18:00
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion SysyphusTue, 27 November 2012 18:43
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion RUS WillWed, 28 November 2012 02:39
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion CAT-pegasoSat, 01 December 2012 13:34
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion CAT-pegasoSat, 01 December 2012 16:39
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion CAT-pegasoSat, 01 December 2012 17:22
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion CAT-pegasoSat, 01 December 2012 17:40
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion SysyphusWed, 05 December 2012 03:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion SysyphusSun, 09 December 2012 17:56
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion LMAA-DNMon, 10 December 2012 00:47
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion DrakeStormMon, 10 December 2012 07:32
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion dea1Mon, 10 December 2012 11:17
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion RUS WillTue, 11 December 2012 03:18
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion SysyphusTue, 11 December 2012 04:27
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerTue, 11 December 2012 17:01
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion RUS WillWed, 12 December 2012 11:56
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerWed, 12 December 2012 13:15
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion ACP MiguelWed, 12 December 2012 13:16
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion RUS WillWed, 28 November 2012 02:48
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion RUS WillWed, 28 November 2012 03:55
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion onyx puffin LOLWed, 28 November 2012 04:25
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion stemayfWed, 28 November 2012 13:16
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion SysyphusWed, 28 November 2012 15:32
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion dea1Wed, 28 November 2012 17:29
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion CAT-pegasoSat, 01 December 2012 13:14
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion BTB CromzeWed, 28 November 2012 20:28
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Mr BeanWed, 28 November 2012 20:55
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion Angel 6Thu, 29 November 2012 12:53
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion GSV3Thu, 29 November 2012 13:11
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion RUS WillThu, 29 November 2012 14:42
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion JenAckThu, 29 November 2012 14:47
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion BTB CromzeThu, 29 November 2012 14:58
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion SysyphusThu, 29 November 2012 15:34
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion RUS WillThu, 29 November 2012 19:14
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion QorlasMon, 10 December 2012 11:25
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion RUS WillTue, 11 December 2012 14:24
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion SYN Stephan1972Thu, 13 December 2012 00:50
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion GSV3Thu, 13 December 2012 13:28
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion SYN Stephan1972Thu, 13 December 2012 13:44
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerThu, 13 December 2012 14:55
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion dea1Thu, 13 December 2012 15:28
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerFri, 14 December 2012 15:12
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion SysyphusFri, 14 December 2012 15:45
  Re:NC 2012 : Truck makes misplaced comparisons TruckertellerThu, 13 December 2012 15:44
  Re:NC 2012 : Truck makes misplaced comparisons dea1Thu, 13 December 2012 16:24
  Thread needs to be clearer SysyphusFri, 14 December 2012 02:00
  Wordings  SysyphusFri, 14 December 2012 02:52
  Re:Wordings dea1Fri, 14 December 2012 13:36
  Re:Wordings GSV3Fri, 14 December 2012 14:28
  Re:Wordings BTB CromzeSun, 16 December 2012 17:42
  Re:Wordings TruckertellerSun, 16 December 2012 18:05
  Re:Wordings SysyphusSun, 16 December 2012 19:38
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerFri, 14 December 2012 14:24
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion TruckertellerFri, 14 December 2012 16:00
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion GSV3Fri, 14 December 2012 18:08
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion KnockandoMon, 17 December 2012 13:23
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion GSV3Mon, 17 December 2012 16:26
  Re:NC 2012 : Rules and discussion SysyphusMon, 17 December 2012 18:38
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