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PanzerRunes
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Sniper House Rule
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Sat, 21 November 2009 04:44
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I've been considering a house rule on snipers.
For all the abstractness of M'44 besides the air rules I think the most unbelievable rule is that a sniper can occupy/control a whole hex.
My idea is that a sniper should be able to exist in any hex with any unit type friend or foe... It is only one person (or two with a spotter).
If it is with a friendly unit the whole hex is attacked. If a grenade is rolled the owning player can decide to remove a figure or the sniper. If with a single figure and two or more dice are roled the figure icon takes presidence over the grenade. (meaning if a sniper is with a single tank and two dice rolled results in an armor and grenade, the armor is applied to the tank and the grenade to the sniper)
If the sniper is attacked in the same hex as an enemy unit then two dice are rolled. Only one grenade is needed to kill the sniper.
Also a sniper does not exert influence on adjacent hexes so can be ignored by the opposing force.
Thoughts?
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Timmuilwijk
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Re:Sniper House Rule
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Sat, 21 November 2009 12:05
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Those would be great, indeed a sniper might be too powerful to occupy one hex only, it could stop a complete tank force in the right position etc. Nevertheless, if you work it out more clearly it might work indeed, have you already playtested it? I would say, start with Stalingrad where snipers dominate the area....
Tim
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tank commander
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Re:Sniper House Rule
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Sat, 21 November 2009 13:33
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I do not think that the "Sniper" represents one barrel, but rather a group (several sniper teams) operating in one area.
As to what one sniper can do...
A Marine sniper (w/ a spotter) in Vietnam once pinned down over 200 enemy soldiers. Each and every time they tried an advance, several of them were picked off. After a while, they stayed down, so this Marine controlled all the area in range (several hundred yards) and LOS.
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JJAZ
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Re:Sniper House Rule
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Sat, 21 November 2009 16:47
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Did they actually use pins? 
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sam1812
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Re:Sniper House Rule
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Sat, 21 November 2009 20:02
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Poison-tipped darts, actually.
Remember, the pin is mightier than the sword. Especially for snipers.
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rasmussen81
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Re:Sniper House Rule
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Sat, 21 November 2009 21:23
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| sam1812 wrote on Sat, 21 November 2009 11:02 |
Poison-tipped darts, actually.
Remember, the pin is mightier than the sword. Especially for snipers.
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Clexton27
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50th
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Re:Sniper House Rule
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Sun, 22 November 2009 06:28
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And in the heartland there are a lot of deer hunters with big guns loose in the woods, so watch out!
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sam1812
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Re:Sniper House Rule
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Sun, 22 November 2009 07:45
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Big guns are great for deer hunting, because if you hit it, you get to put a crosshair marker on it and roll an extra die on your next shot. 
(Sorry, I know this whole discussion has gotten off target. As for the sniper rule, I always bear in mind that the whole game is a simplification. Real army units would never do a lot of the things we make our Memoir units do -- such as failing to fight back when attacked, just because the commander didn't have any cards for the right section. Thus, I'm not troubled by the existing sniper rule, because it's consistent with the rules and structure of the game.)
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ad79
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Re:Sniper House Rule
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Sun, 22 November 2009 08:16
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| sam1812 wrote on Sun, 22 November 2009 07:45 |
Big guns are great for deer hunting, because if you hit it, you get to put a crosshair marker on it and roll an extra die on your next shot.
(Sorry, I know this whole discussion has gotten off target. As for the sniper rule, I always bear in mind that the whole game is a simplification. Real army units would never do a lot of the things we make our Memoir units do -- such as failing to fight back when attacked, just because the commander didn't have any cards for the right section. Thus, I'm not troubled by the existing sniper rule, because it's consistent with the rules and structure of the game.)
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Sarge, we are getting shot at! Should I return fire!
No, Private Williams, I only have orders for Private Johnsen over on the left flank, so you guys just have too sit tight and hope they miss!
Ok, tell me when to do something then! I'll wait here on the bridge adjacent to these 3 German tanks!
So you are saying that is not how it was done?
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nemesszili
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Re:Sniper House Rule
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Sun, 22 November 2009 10:05
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Luckily, those snipers are present in the world of Memoir, so they could count on, that they will not get hit (only hit on grenade plus cover).  Private Williams should be in a good cover...
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sam1812
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Re:Sniper House Rule
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Sun, 22 November 2009 18:04
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ad79 wrote on Sun, 22 November 2009 02:16No, Private Williams, I only have orders for Private Johnsen over on the left flank, so you guys just have too sit tight and hope they miss!
Ok, tell me when to do something then! I'll wait here on the bridge adjacent to these 3 German tanks
